Girlguiding - Supreme Court Decision email

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Have just had an email from them...

As the parent of a young member in Girlguiding, following April’s Supreme Court decision relating to sex and gender, we wanted to give you an update. Many organisations across the country have been facing complex decisions about what it means for girls and women and for the wider communities affected, including us.

Girlguiding’s governing charity documents set out that the membership and people who benefit from our organisation are girls and women. In April, the Supreme Court ruled that girls and women are defined in the Equality Act 2010 by their biological sex at birth.

Following detailed considerations, expert legal advice and input from senior members, young members and our Council, Girlguiding’s Board of Trustees has made the difficult decision that Girlguiding must change Girlguiding must change, following the Supreme Court’s ruling.

From today, 2 December, it is with a heavy heart that we are announcing trans girls and young women will no longer be able to join Girlguiding. This is a decision we would have preferred not to make, and we know that this may be upsetting for members of our community.

There will be no immediate changes for current young members but more information will be shared next week.

Most adult roles, including unit helpers, district helpers and administrative support, are already open to all, so we are confident that no volunteers will have to leave the organisation.

Girlguiding believes strongly in our value of inclusion, and we will continue to support young people and adults in marginalised groups. Over the next few months, we'll explore opportunities to champion this value and actively support young people who need us.

You can find our full statement and updated policy on our website.

We are proud to be the UK’s largest youth organisation dedicated to girls and is focused on creating an equal world for girls and young women. For over 100 years, we have been a welcoming space for all girls to have new experiences, support their communities, build friendships and grow their confidence.

While Girlguiding may feel a little different going forward, these core aims and principles will always be the same. We remain committed to treating everyone with dignity and respect, particularly those from marginalised groups that have felt the biggest impact of this decision.

If you have any immediate questions, we have our special support team in place, to give volunteers, parents and carers the best support we can. We are asking Girlguiding HQ, trading and country/region staff to refer any volunteer or parent who has questions about this announcement.

Scouts is unisex isn’t it? Why can’t ’gender Confused’ kids join them ? Why do the need to join the spaces of the opposite sex - it’s like it’s a focus on their whole personality?

Assigned? Can someone explain this to me adequately?

There isn't an adequate explanation it is just TRA/GI nonsense talk, as if there is some kind of lottery going on in the delivery room. People who use this phrase make themselves look as ridiculous as they are.

Imagine if assigning a sex at birth did happen, all those girl babies murdered and dumped in China could just have been assigned male instead and still be alive, imagine how much better life could be for girls in Afghanistan if only they had been assigned male at birth instead.

People who spout this phrase have zero credibility in my opinion and I have zero respect for them.

Any female child if the appropriate age you have should be welcome. Clothes and haircuts don’t change material reality.

I think the midwife flipped a coin 🤷‍♀️

Yes, but that wasn't the question the poster asked. She asked if her other daughter - who she called her trans son - could join. It was an attempt at a gotcha because of course this other daughter can join.

My additional point was that if she has been denied access to-date, or made to feel she could not join, then she was the victim of discrimination. Girls identifying as NB or Trans male deserve protection and have rights too, whether we believe they are trans or not, because they are biological girls. GGUK has let these girls down in preference for little boys in an organisation set up for girls.

For decades, infants born with intersex traits faced irreversible “normalizing” genital surgeries in their first years. Doctors declared ambiguous genitalia a “social emergency,” pressuring parents to quickly choose male or female and consent to clitoral reduction, vaginoplasty, or gonadectomy. procedures often done for cosmetic, not medical, reasons.

so yes I suppose it is assigned and it is sometimes a coin flip. Could anyone expand on where these children fit in, even if a small minority they deserve to be safe guarded and have a safe place for them to socialise and not be stigmatised

I agree. It’s a mockery of female foeticide as worst and totally bizarre when you consider that in some countries like the US the sex of the embryo can be chosen during IVF.

Does your child have a DSD?

Joining a single-sex space isn’t about fixating on gender confusion as a “personality focus”. it’s about access to affirming, low-pressure peer support amid isolation and discrimination risks.

Studies show such spaces boost belonging and mental health for LGBTQ+ youth without pathologising identity.

Co-ed options like Scouts remain ideal for many, emphasising adventure over gender. If a child prefers single-sex, it’s a valid choice for tailored support, not obsession. I’m more than happy to give you the studies that show this.

If a child prefers single-sex, it’s a valid choice for tailored support, not obsession.

It's a valid choice for a child of that sex, yes.

Single sex for their actual sex

No male children in girl guides

This claim currently appears to be a statement without supporting evidence. If you have a specific safeguarding concern backed by verifiable data or peer-reviewed studies showing genuine harm that isn’t directly funded or produced by overtly anti-trans advocacy groups, I’d genuinely be interested in reviewing it

What "claim"?

It's a girls' organisation. It's for girls.

It's an accurate statement of the legal position.

It's quite unbelievable that women wanting a woman only organisation have to provide peer reviewed evidence for it!

So we can say it as it is, it’s anti LGBTQIA+ and there is no 2 ways about it. How long before people say no lesbians as they might attack someone or look at another girl in a single sex space

I am honestly sick to death of women and girls having to speak about their trauma in order to "justify" wanting access to the single-sex spaces that were set up for them.

You have misunderstood. Massively.

Well if you were writing their marketing I would say about a nanosecond.

This is their mission statement

The Girl Guides' mission is
to empower girls and young women to find their voice, discover their potential, and make a positive difference in their community.

I can't be certain, you might have to read more of it, to find out where they say no lesbians

@OneLoftyPombear do you think lesbians might attack someone? Why is that? Got any peer-reviewed studies for it?

If we are on about safety and trauma and this risks faced by these girls look at Brianna Ghey

Loads of LGBTQIA in girl guides.

Zero boys.

Men commit 98% of all sex crime, 90% of all violent crime.

Not lesbians.

Can you explain what you mean please? A vague sentence doesn't cut it on here, I'm afraid.