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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Banned from Reddit for saying trans women are not biological women

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Oryx54321 · 02/12/2025 12:39

I’ve managed to get myself banned for inciting hatred from Reddit for 3 days for saying that I don’t have a problem with trans women as long as they don’t claim to be biological women and demand rights to female sex protected spaces. Googled what social media channels allow any discussion on trans issues so here I am. Hi!

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Witchymadwoman · 06/12/2025 13:15

moderate · 02/12/2025 12:46

Welcome to Mumsnet: the island from which TERF Island was built.

💕💕💕

Carla786 · 06/12/2025 15:03

ParentOfOne · 02/12/2025 22:12

@murasaki It's different, though. I don't know what the technical term is, but mumsnet is one of those old style forums where posts appear one after the other.

With Reddit, instead, posts are hierarchical.
You make a post. I reply (level 1). If someone replies to me, their post appears under min (level 2). If someone replied to the original post, it's a different level 1 reply.

These various levels end up nested one into the other. Those with more votes are pushed up, those with fewer votes are hidden and collapsed.

Supporters say that reddit subs get too much traffic and a mumsnet-like model wouldn't work.
Detractors point out the toxicity and the groupthink

I've seen some Reddit style downvoting would make MN nicer, but I think it's just a different form of toxicity.

SidewaysOtter · 06/12/2025 20:34

Welcome to the TERF side Grin

I’ve never bothered joining Reddit, I’d be banned almost instantly for my terrible TERFery so it seems a waste of time. Anyway, the humour is better here AND we have Tunnocks (teacakes for preference, I find the wafers a bit dry and chewy).

SidewaysOtter · 06/12/2025 20:36

That Spartacus thread is interesting, it was a couple of years before I was ‘Radicalised by Mumsnet’. It does show how much things have changed!

Waitwhat23 · 06/12/2025 20:50

Witchymadwoman · 06/12/2025 13:15

💕💕💕

This image always makes me proud

Banned from Reddit for saying trans women are not biological women
Waitwhat23 · 06/12/2025 20:59

SidewaysOtter · 06/12/2025 20:36

That Spartacus thread is interesting, it was a couple of years before I was ‘Radicalised by Mumsnet’. It does show how much things have changed!

God, I've just realised that thread is 10 years old and conversations had evidently been going on for a long time before that. There's been a lot of women here for such a long time fighting for women's rights. I was peaked five years ago and even that's relatively recent in the scheme of things.

Long live FWS and all who sail in her!

dinodart · 07/12/2025 03:30

on the embroidery subreddit, someone had posted a trans rights embroidery, I asked what rights did trans people not have, and got banned from that sub, lmao. I also got banned from the taylor swift subreddit and the kpop subreddit for equally milquetoast takes. it is so easy to get the ban hammer on there.

that was years ago tho, these days I use old.reddit.com and the RES extension in browser to block certain keywords (like "gender") on there so I can't be tempted to out myself and get the hammer.

GallantKumquat · 07/12/2025 05:19

One of the tragedies that gets to the heart of identity politics is that you must believe someone's lived reality - if someone says that getting misgendered is worse than death to them it's a bannable offense to point out that it's unrealistic and unethical to compel every one else to behave as though it is.

It's also, plainly, a deeply unhealthy belief (delusion) for the person to hold. Yet pointing that out is also a bannable offense.

So, trans people are at a total loggerhead with reality. Many, even most (though perhaps not all), GC people are perfectly happy for adults to present as a stereotyped version of the opposite sex as both a form of self expression and means to reduce feelings of dysphoria about their bodies, and are willing to suspend their disapproval (so long as the individual is informed and in a position to consent) of body modification and induced hormonal disorder to enhance that expression. They wouldn't object to public campaigns to reduce bullying and discrimination against trans people and would also welcome any necessary additional precautions to ensure that trans people had access to effective, comfortable and safe single sex services corresponding to their biological sex. Surely there are in fact some instances where those facilities and services could be improved for trans people. But not only is that unacceptable in the debate, but considered to be bannable transphobia as well!

So, here we are back in the manipulative situation of trans people suffering from very real, sometimes florid, psychological distress, but the community exploiting that distress as way to try and coerce their allies into demanding untenable policies - in much the same way as that the manipulative child psychologists will present parents with the alternative of a trans daughter or dead son. When Falkner talks of trans people being the victims of their own advocacy that's what she means. But it's extraordinarily difficult to articulate in the public debate.

What's worse, with respect to Reddit and Wikipedia, is that those forums have trained the current generation of AIs that make them as shrill and unreasonable as TRAs, and those AIs wield enormous power in shaping the debate - they're used to craft policy, prepare talking points for talk show appearance, develop university curriculum, research reports, power chat-bots on social media, and run moderation tool for forums like Reddit itself, creating a circular, self reinforcing echo chamber.

As much as unpleasant as it is, I think it's essential for GC people who want to see change to engage Reddit and Wikipedia as contributors, and seek to build institutional pressure against their bias through pressure group like SexMatters and watch dog groups like ofcom.

Waitwhat23 · 08/12/2025 23:11

Boiled, I found this in a shop today!

Banned from Reddit for saying trans women are not biological women
Boiledbeetle · 08/12/2025 23:38

Waitwhat23 · 08/12/2025 23:11

Boiled, I found this in a shop today!

Ooooh!

I'd say I want one, but I learnt my lesson with the Marmite Lynx. (The cats followed me around all day because I stunk of Marmite).

CraftyRedBird · 09/12/2025 16:32

Somehow I've managed not be banned from Reddit (under a completely different username than here, sorry don't want to share BC lurkers)

I suspect because I reported a transgender activist racially abusing me and Reddit were extremely apologetic.

Presumably I snuck up the vulnerable victim list (!)

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