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"All star charity concert for trans rights"

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FuriousAndFrustrated · 28/11/2025 15:15

Spotted on the Guardian today:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/nov/28/sugababes-sophie-ellis-bextor-wolf-alice-and-more-to-play-all-star-charity-concert-for-trans-rights

Raising money for the kimono-clad fox-killer's "Good" Law Project.

Definitely one to avoid!

Sugababes, Sophie Ellis-Bextor, Wolf Alice and more to play all-star charity concert for trans rights

Organised by Olly Alexander and the Mighty Hoopla festival to ‘fight back against the politics of fear and exclusion’, Trans Mission will take place at Wembley Arena in March

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/nov/28/sugababes-sophie-ellis-bextor-wolf-alice-and-more-to-play-all-star-charity-concert-for-trans-rights

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fromorbit · 08/03/2026 20:12

On the Guardian article

SEEN in Journalism
Mar 7
‘Parallel world’ insight/promo into the view from the counterfactual side -
guardian
previews the ‘Transmission’ fundraiser on March 11 (next Wednesday) for which tickets are still available. They’re on sale in almost all sections at almost all prices, which is odd for a cheapish gig with these names in a great venue.

This well worth reading (archive) even though it’s no exaggeration to say it feels like it emerged from opposite world. For tens of thousands of people this 👇 narrative is accurate, even though almost none of it is true at all, apart from the accidental confessions of misogyny. It’s useful and terrifying at the same time, a classic demonstration of exactly what journalists are supposed to debunk, not amplify - woo about ‘empowerment, love, togetherness’ vs facts, law, science and truth.

But it’s incredibly interesting and vital to be aware that otherwise rational people still hold and promote this view of the last decade and the Guardian is still prepared to publish it. It’s informative.

‘Many senior music executives declined to sign Rasmussen’s open letter. “That didn’t surprise me at all” Alexander says. “My experience of people at major labels is they’re all very scared of losing their jobs”’

That’s not why they didn’t sign, and you bet he was in fact surprised. What’s happened in politics and journalism (what the Guardian calls ‘a dearth of supportive voices’) is indeed creeping up on the creative industries, just at even more of a snail’s pace. The return of reason is seen as an injustice and a cause of victimhood but it’s still returning.

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/2026.03.06-171446/www.theguardian.com/music/2026/mar/06/trans-mission-transgender-olly-alexander-live-aid-wembley-arena" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.ph/2026.03.06-171446/www.theguardian.com/music/2026/mar/06/trans-mission-transgender-olly-alexander-live-aid-wembley-arena

MistyGreenAndBlue · 08/03/2026 20:35

Lalgarh · 08/03/2026 19:32

This just popped up on my socials Which illustrates the point!

https://youtube.com/shorts/97Gq_k9jqQY?si=SJ0H-jIaVbuwPU5F
👄 👁️

I've seen him before on FB. He's ALMOST got it
My guys in the '80s were better at makeup though. And the 'tache guys never did the makeup thing. (Except Freddie Mercury that one time)

MistyGreenAndBlue · 08/03/2026 20:43

fromorbit · 08/03/2026 20:12

On the Guardian article

SEEN in Journalism
Mar 7
‘Parallel world’ insight/promo into the view from the counterfactual side -
guardian
previews the ‘Transmission’ fundraiser on March 11 (next Wednesday) for which tickets are still available. They’re on sale in almost all sections at almost all prices, which is odd for a cheapish gig with these names in a great venue.

This well worth reading (archive) even though it’s no exaggeration to say it feels like it emerged from opposite world. For tens of thousands of people this 👇 narrative is accurate, even though almost none of it is true at all, apart from the accidental confessions of misogyny. It’s useful and terrifying at the same time, a classic demonstration of exactly what journalists are supposed to debunk, not amplify - woo about ‘empowerment, love, togetherness’ vs facts, law, science and truth.

But it’s incredibly interesting and vital to be aware that otherwise rational people still hold and promote this view of the last decade and the Guardian is still prepared to publish it. It’s informative.

‘Many senior music executives declined to sign Rasmussen’s open letter. “That didn’t surprise me at all” Alexander says. “My experience of people at major labels is they’re all very scared of losing their jobs”’

That’s not why they didn’t sign, and you bet he was in fact surprised. What’s happened in politics and journalism (what the Guardian calls ‘a dearth of supportive voices’) is indeed creeping up on the creative industries, just at even more of a snail’s pace. The return of reason is seen as an injustice and a cause of victimhood but it’s still returning.

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/2026.03.06-171446/www.theguardian.com/music/2026/mar/06/trans-mission-transgender-olly-alexander-live-aid-wembley-arena" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.ph/2026.03.06-171446/www.theguardian.com/music/2026/mar/06/trans-mission-transgender-olly-alexander-live-aid-wembley-arena

Neither of those links works. Maybe the Graun took it down?

MistyGreenAndBlue · 08/03/2026 20:45

MowingMachine · 08/03/2026 11:47

Me too. I click on the ads every time, because it costs them money when I do 😁

Edited

I haven't seen a single one. Might have to go looking for it. 😂

MistyGreenAndBlue · 08/03/2026 20:58

CassOle · 07/03/2026 16:49

The genuinely sad thing is that if we currently had the male fashions of the 1970's (and the 80's New Romantics), a lot of these men could embrace their 'feminine side' with long hair, floaty blouses, make-up, etc. and rock an attractive androgynous look (IMO). The whole stupid Barbie-Action Man gender spectrum bollocks has actually restricted people.

They are not the same cohort though. Most of the transwomen of today were the transvestites of the past. They are exercising their fetish not straining for freedom of expression.

It would probably help if that freedom were still there though for "ordinary guys". The rigid "gender" boxes of today only give these fetishists more legitimacy than they should have.
Bring back guyliner I say. I used to love me a bit of guyliner.

moto748e · 08/03/2026 22:16

I love the way, when you click on that Graun link, it pops up saying "This is what we're up against". Yeah, quite... 😁

MistyGreenAndBlue · 08/03/2026 22:22

PachacutisBadAuntie · 08/03/2026 22:13

Thanks.
I felt a bit sick reading that. Live Aid my arse!
Bob Geldof should sue.

PachacutisBadAuntie · 08/03/2026 22:29

It's very much through the looking glass.
“I wish for a night of highly elevated energies,” says Redcar. “I would love some kind of collective revolt where we could stop feeling like shit about everything. We could stop feeling so powerless.”
Maybe start with not constantly telling each other that everything's shit?

MowingMachine · 08/03/2026 22:31

PachacutisBadAuntie · 08/03/2026 22:13

No way are they selling 10,000 tickets to that concert.

PachacutisBadAuntie · 08/03/2026 22:39

MowingMachine · 08/03/2026 22:31

No way are they selling 10,000 tickets to that concert.

Is there any way to find out how many people turn up? I guess looking at ticket availability on the day might give an idea.

SabrinaThwaite · 08/03/2026 22:43

PachacutisBadAuntie · 08/03/2026 22:29

It's very much through the looking glass.
“I wish for a night of highly elevated energies,” says Redcar. “I would love some kind of collective revolt where we could stop feeling like shit about everything. We could stop feeling so powerless.”
Maybe start with not constantly telling each other that everything's shit?

slap slapping GIF

They have to tell each other everything’s shit and wallow in self pity, as they finally realise that reality has hit them like a Monty Python fish slapping contest.

PachacutisBadAuntie · 08/03/2026 23:15

SabrinaThwaite · 08/03/2026 22:43

They have to tell each other everything’s shit and wallow in self pity, as they finally realise that reality has hit them like a Monty Python fish slapping contest.

😂 😂

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/03/2026 04:38

The idea that this concert is Live Aid for our times is hilarious.

Chersfrozenface · 09/03/2026 08:33

PachacutisBadAuntie · 08/03/2026 22:39

Is there any way to find out how many people turn up? I guess looking at ticket availability on the day might give an idea.

What we need is someone who really likes counting, who can go through each available block subtracting the number of unsold seats from the total for that block to reach the 'sold' figure, then add up the global total of sold seats.

Note, of the 32 blocks of varying sizes in the arena, tickets can only be bought in 11. The rest are unavailable i.e. will be empty.

That doesn't tell us how many people are in the standing area, mind, or how many have got freebies.

Still, I'm willing to bet that there won't be ten thousand.

Lalgarh · 09/03/2026 08:34

PachacutisBadAuntie · 08/03/2026 22:13

Oh i didn't realise it was on the day after tomorrow .

From that:

Unsurprisingly, the solitary politician on the bill is the Green party leader Zack Polanski. The Labour government has banned puberty blockers, delayed a trans-inclusive ban on conversion practices, introduced new restrictions on social transitioning in schools, and fudged its response to the supreme court decision. “I’d say it was cowardice,” says Alexander, who no longer votes Labour. “For a Labour government to be so scared to have a line on this just shows the spinelessness of our leadership.”

No Zarah Sultana? The Lambeth YP branch have forced out their chair and vice chair after they mentioned "balancing rights", the hateful bigots

Chersfrozenface · 09/03/2026 08:36

Oh, and there's a desperate puff piece in the Independent today bylined Olly Alexander. Apparently its aim will be "to send “a bold and loud message” of solidarity with the trans community".

No mention of raising money, I see.

fromorbit · 09/03/2026 08:42

Chersfrozenface · 09/03/2026 08:33

What we need is someone who really likes counting, who can go through each available block subtracting the number of unsold seats from the total for that block to reach the 'sold' figure, then add up the global total of sold seats.

Note, of the 32 blocks of varying sizes in the arena, tickets can only be bought in 11. The rest are unavailable i.e. will be empty.

That doesn't tell us how many people are in the standing area, mind, or how many have got freebies.

Still, I'm willing to bet that there won't be ten thousand.

No doubt we will some pics allowing to guess the turnout and also they will probably moan about numbers too.

Good signal how the gender cause is falling apart though. As any money raised will go to GLP and be wasted and another minor trans charity it looks to be pretty much an own goal.

Lalgarh · 09/03/2026 08:46

If it goes ahead with a small attendance, presumably the losses will be written off, as was suggested upthread

Chersfrozenface · 09/03/2026 08:54

No doubt we will some pics allowing to guess the turnout and also they will probably moan about numbers too.

Any official photos will be carefully shot, I should think, but there are always smartphones.

And absolutely there will be moaning. There's nothing gender identitarians enjoy as much as a really good whine.

moto748e · 09/03/2026 10:48

Are any thread posters planning to attend? Someone should take one for the team, surely? 😀

SabrinaThwaite · 09/03/2026 10:59

moto748e · 09/03/2026 10:48

Are any thread posters planning to attend? Someone should take one for the team, surely? 😀

Can you imagine the queue for the ladies loos?

Chersfrozenface · 09/03/2026 11:04

I'd send my stunt double, if I had one. Probably have to pay double time, mind.

moto748e · 09/03/2026 11:49

SabrinaThwaite · 09/03/2026 10:59

Can you imagine the queue for the ladies loos?

Arf! 😂

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