What is Riley Gaines hiding? We investigated…

[Brewdug]

This podcast appeared in my feed today via an affiliated show… I know it is naive but it’s still hard to believe how blinkered - and unbearably smug the US liberal wing is on this. This is rubbish ( from the ‘Center for Investigative Reporting’, which I now wouldn’t trust to tell me if it was raining), but still enlightening… wondered if anyone else had heard it.

A six month dig to discredit Gaines - we’re not supposed to notice that everyone they’re trying to gotcha in this won’t dignify any of it - that finds her hiding (spoiler alert) nothing?

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/reveal/id886009669?i=1000738472306

Ah I see Howse has graced us with his usual brand of heeeeeerailing to piss all over the thread in his usual style

Liam Thomas is a man and Riley Gaines could be the most objectionable women ever to draw breath and she'd still be entitled to a single sex changing room as part of a female swimming team

The Democrats and 'progressives' are turning to conspiracy theories to investigate why they lost the election, rather than look more closely at their own articles of faith.

Are you suggesting the women who claimed in the podcast that Lia Thomas was in a towel keeping to herself are in still in 'denial'?

The stories people tell themselves….

Again, you continue with your lies. Where is the PROOF anyone said Thomas was in a towel? Despite the fact that as has been shown on this thread, it is literally and practically IMPOSSIBBLE to be in a towel get a swimsuit on at the same time....

Proof of your claim please.

Brewdog

There are a couple of YouTube podcasts saying they have uncovered what RG has ‘hidden’ - Pablo Torre and the Majority Report. I think it is this Pablo Torre podcast with Madison Pauly that you are referring to, is that correct?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iKUl8lkuGOc&pp=ygUTUmlsZXkgZ2FpbmVzIGhpZGluZw%3D%3D

What I cannot work out though is just what they believe was ‘hidden’?

It seems to me pretty obvious that -

(1) Some women might have seen more or less than other women in a changing room with Liar T.

(2) Some women might have been more or less uncomfortable than other women in a changing room with Liar T.

(3) That (1) and (2) are utterly irrelevant - all that is relevant is that men are not women and not welcome is a space for women, and that it is safe to assume wilful disregard of women, or deliberate predatory aims towards women, from any man who attempts to enter. Even if all the women in there were treated with complete respect and were happy, even if they all wanted Liar T in there so they could all giggle why discussing how wonderful each others genitalia was, Liar T was completely in the wrong being there because, if nothing else, his presence affects the choices of the next generation of potential elite swimmers.

Howse at least mixes it up a bit. Usually on a Riley Gaines thread, we get hundreds of posts along the lines of "I'm as GC as they come, but here are 50 reasons why you should hate Riley Gaines"

I don't know what it is about RG, but she seems to positively enrage 'progressives' who then have a compulsion to explain why she's a liar and a bad faith actor.

They would rather be advocates for flashers' rights than admit that RG with her sinful thoughts should be entitled to a single sex changing room.

That is why they will lose.

Oh dear, you need to edumacute yourself on what the female competitors revealed about the situation of male exposure and voyeurism that was inflicted on them. They have to get into the swimming costumes naked. It has been revealed that the man allowed into the women’s changing room was exposing himself. ’Upthread’ isn’t in the women’s changing room. The young women exposed the behaviour of the male exposing himself to them in their changing room.

You may be right, it may have taken longer than 20 minutes for the swimmers to slowly inch themselves into the skintight swimming costumes. Lots of exposed jiggling penis and testicles going on in the women’s changing room.

Himself. Hows has already admitted in this thread that Thomas is male bodied... so a man 🙄

Obviously that should be enough to ensure he was never allowed into the female changing rooms (or onto the female swim team!), regardless of whether he was covered with a towel, 16 layers of clothing, or stark bollock naked.

However, on top the simple fact of a man being where he absolutely should not have been, we also have accounts from the women on the swim team that not only were they distressed and felt violated at having to get naked in front of him, but that he was exposed and also aroused.

Hows wants us all to ignore everything from the ground up there, starting from Thomas is a man who shouldn't have been there in the first place.

Gaines' team mates testimonies in the pod cast.

Oh that's right , 'those women don't count'…

My theory on changing rooms...

• The trans individual knows they are making others uncomfortable, and doesn't care
• The trans individual knows they are making others uncomfortable, and actively enjoying it
• The trans individual is that oblivious to reality they don't realise they are making others uncomfortable

Or...- The trans individual realises their presence may not only be making others uncomfortable, but actually causing distress, so seeks to rectify the situation by finding an alternative private space.

Its sort of ironic, the type of trans individual that puts others first is tge sort you feel safe around, but they aren't the ones trying to ride over womans rights.

As for RG... yes I don't agree with a lot of her politics. However you can separate people opinions on different topics, especially with politics. Does anyone ever completely agree with every policy a Political party has? Or is it just a balance of matters.

Why was he there? He is a man stripping naked next to women also stripping naked. Young women who were groomed to believe they were not allowed to have appropriate boundaries or safeguarding? Who have been told repeatedly that these men are the most vulnerable ever and must be protected? Of course some women would try and defend him. Just as 12-year old victims of grooming might believe their abusive pimp is actually a loving boyfriend.

lol. If “Lia” Thomas left women’s sports alone there would be nothing to “weaponise”.

Women are allowed to have rights, and they are allowed to campaign for them.

Also, a trans individual with dysphoria - someone with a deep psychological revulsion towards their sexed body - is unlikely to be hanging out in a communal changing room where everyone has to get naked.

A visitor from Malaga, on the other hand...

Plus, of course, we have to remember the cost to these women of speaking out. The horrendous level of abuse including podcasts were people look at you past to try and discredit you…

Well even if you do take the exposure and male arousal out of the equation, there's two women on the swim team who were not happy about Thomas being there because he was male, and who said they felt distressed and violated by having to change in front of him.

How many women have to complain for it to make a difference? Put a number on it, I triple dare you! 😂

Edit to add, I expect Hows will swerve this question and refuse to give a number, but it would be fascinating if he actually attempted to answer the question in good faith wouldn't it?

Did her team mates actually speak on the podcast? Or was it men saying on the podcast that her team mates said it?

Strange you think both Gaines and Scanlan 'don't count'. Nor the expert testimony of people on this very thread involved in professional swimming. Nor the AI I posted that shows how long it takes. Nor the YT clip that demonstrates how long it takes.

None, none of those 'count'. Thinking you can get a skin tight swimsuit - or indeed any swimsuit - on WHILE holding a towel around you is absolutely batshit crazy. Common sense tells you it cannot physically be done.

Yes it’s the Pablo Torre one. The thread title is how it appeared in my podcast feed. I’m not sure what she was supposed to be hiding either…

Exactly.

Gaines brought attention to the generalisable issue of males in female changing rooms and competing in the female category.

The specifics of the Gaines/Thomsas case are very important to those directly involved. They are not important or relevant to the overarching argument.

A male who never exposes his penis in a changing room should not be in a changing room for females not competing in the female category.

Wow Gaines really gets under the Incel's skin doesn't she?

What is it about a smart, attractive women saying 'no' to them that they just can't cope with? 🤔

Thinking you can get a skin tight swimsuit - or indeed any swimsuit - on WHILE holding a towel around you is absolutely batshit crazy. Common sense tells you it cannot physically be done.

This alone is enough to convince me Howes is clearly male.

And I am not sure why it took 'six months' to 'investigate'.

Was there any new information in the podcast?

Quite. It would also be completely wrong for a male teacher to stand in my DD changing room whilst her class changed for swimming lessons even if he remained fully clothed and faced the wall.

Why do people still feed the troll that is Howseitgoin?

If everyone just ignored him he’d slither back into his troll hole.

I could imagine the power a man would feel in such a situation, knowing he could turn around at any moment and see the girls naked and the girls were having to get changed in fear of this, would be quite a turn on.