To find it heartening that despite so many famous people being anti JKR, their are still so many who are prepared to work on HP?

[PyongyangKipperbang]

The end credits on the full cast audio takes 13 minutes. Hugh Laurie, Carl Prekopp, Mark Addy, Indira Varma.....and so many many names!

Then the TV series. Nick Frost, Warwick Davies, John Lithgow, Janet McTeer, Katherine Parkinson and (my favourite) Daniel Rigby.

I feel that the actors and crew are saying that they agree with her (or at least, dont disagree), without actually saying that they agree, if you see what I mean.

In a correct world where everybody is safeguarded, scouts leaders, coaches and priests are never alone with children in their care when it comes to changing and sleeping arrangements. Changing and sleeping is single sex as well.

Not just to protect the children, but also to protect the adults against any accusations.

See where I am going with this?

Also, for @godtierKaren, one of the main reasons for wanting single sex spaces and sports is that women will self exclude if they have to share with men they don't know. It is direct discrimination based on sex for women and girls as you are barring from using your service that is avaible to men and transwomen.

The hockey club around where I live being a good example of this

Yes, you are going into a logistical nightmare again as with toilet policing. Good luck with that.

I didn't mention toilets, @godtierKaren. I know transactivists like to discuss toilets as this is where many women will still be kind to a feminine transwoman.

So mixed sex changing rooms for children supervised by male adults: ok or not?

Yes, you are going into a logistical nightmare again as with toilet policing. Good luck with that.

If only there was some self-control that transwomen could exercise over where they go and some sense of responsibilty ...

So your solution is.....? What?

Do away with all safeguarding because it's a "logistical nightmare"?

Are you saying JJR has no empathy for human rights violations as it's the absolute opposite case. She strongly supports women's rights .

There must be some some of alert that goes on Reddit and similar whenever there's a thread on this board which mentions JKR in the title. We always get a few women hating TRA's on threads but the ones on the JKR threads are a whole different level of spittle flecked unhinged misogyny.

Sorry lads, she's too rich and successful to cancel and while you seethe about it, she's standing up for women's legal right to single sex services and spaces. You don't (and never had the right) to invade services and spaces for females. Women said no.

We're not your mummies, human shields, support humans or validation resources.

(And in terms of the PP, more and more people, including actors, are saying to the TRA's having arm flailing tantrums when they try to cancel them 'your grift has ended. We're not bothered about your footstamping'. The ones still wanging on about 'most vulnerable and oppressed' look like credulous fools)

Safeguarding can be difficult - tho not as godtier suggests, a 'nightmare'; that's rather hyperbolic. But lots of worthwhile things are difficult. It was probably difficult to start giving women equal rights to men - we do after all have the temerity to be the ones who give birth and therefore need time off work! - but surely godtier doesn't think sex equality all too much of a 'nightmare'?!

You say that most people have never seen and never will see a trans person. I don't know about that. Transwomen do tend to stand out from the crowd. Even before all of this stuff kicked off politically, I'd noticed a few transwomen and had even been assaulted by one in a single sex youth hostel dormitory. And I don't get out much.

Well we are told they are all good, kind, lovely and harmless so surely then can all be trusted to not break the law.......

Consistency is definitely a thing, as recently made clear by the Supreme Court ruling - ‘woman’ has to consistently mean ‘biological female’ and that single sex facilities and services should be exactly that.

The thing is that it’s hard to tell the difference between a gender non conforming man and a transwoman. It could just be a man happily wearing a skirt and eyeliner to tescos, or it could be man actually convinced he’s a woman. How can you tell the difference between them? One is open minded about gender expression, one is in the grip of a mental health crisis.

Just throwing out a guess here, but anything to do with the fact HP is one of those things that became too popular for its own good and now any slop with "harry potter" on it will generate money from the fans in their 40s who insist on parting with their money for everything HP related?

Ooh @Christinapple is that an ageist dig? 😂

It's the 13 and 14 year olds in my life parting with their money for HP merch. They love JKR. The magic isn't fading!

It’s still making shed loads of cash for JKR, so I think ‘too popular for its own good’ is wishful thinking on your part @Christinapple . If you don’t like it, good luck to you. Millions disagree.

The original fanbase are of the right age to have kids to introduce to it all now, just as the series comes out. Such perfect timing, almost like it was planned. Kerching!

Good actors also work on Strike, which afaik has no merch etc associated with it.
So (while there is an HP ‘cash cow’), that theory in relation to this thread doesn’t convince.

I’m still puzzled by who all these ‘famous people’ who are seriously ‘anti JKR’ the OP refers to are, apart from the more or less obsolete trio. I’m sure there must be some others.

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And think of the difference those millions will make to women and children through the fantastic charities JKR has created.

Don't worry, many of us forgive you for the ignorance behind your misogynistic bigotry and incivility displayed on this thread.

Then you are a better person than me, cos I fucking wont 😉

Aye, righto pal.