To find it heartening that despite so many famous people being anti JKR, their are still so many who are prepared to work on HP?

[PyongyangKipperbang]

The end credits on the full cast audio takes 13 minutes. Hugh Laurie, Carl Prekopp, Mark Addy, Indira Varma.....and so many many names!

Then the TV series. Nick Frost, Warwick Davies, John Lithgow, Janet McTeer, Katherine Parkinson and (my favourite) Daniel Rigby.

I feel that the actors and crew are saying that they agree with her (or at least, dont disagree), without actually saying that they agree, if you see what I mean.

Denying psychological, behavioural & cultural commonalities is as silly as denying biological realities so I'm not interested in being drawn into that.

Of course you're not.

Yes, I don’t quite get how if the “cubicles in toilets allow” for the privacy, why not just use the toilets for your sex? @godtierKaren has clearly stated trans people can get the privacy they want there?

Yes, I know what you mean. I find misogyny and all the attempts to take away the rights of women - the oppressed sex - in favour of men - the oppressor sex - so disgustingly abhorrent and morally bankrupt, that I find it difficult to feel the same about people once I know they’re full on TRAs.

However, I try to remember that some to them do so out of ignorance, thinking they’re being ‘kind’, and don’t fully understand the impact on women, or the terrible harms being done to confused young people. Most people don’t seem to know much, if anything, about the lifelong medical harms like infertility being visited on vulnerable young people in the name of profit.

There are also those who are too craven and cowardly to do anything other than jump on the bandwagon, as they see this as advantageous to them. Those I have less sympathy for.

By this logic toilets don't need to be separated but clearly they do for safety reasons that applies to both trans women & women. And given there's no evidence statistically of trans women being a safety risk to women then sharing toilets only makes sense.

I’m sure plenty of famous people are pro JKR anyway, they’re just too scared to say it out loud.

who do trans women have risks from in the male toilets?

I’m always thoroughly heartened when I visit King’s Cross station and see the massive queues outside the Harry Potter shop.

The Christmas tree is Diagon Alley themed this year, with a shop on each face of the plinth thingy it’s on.

There were young people taking pics last week, saying “Make sure you get one of each side!”

Warmed my terfy cockles, it did.

Why is it always about toilets... not open plan changing rooms, or domestic violence shelters, or asking for your rape counsellor to be the same sex as you?

Toilets a merely a gateway drug.

Yes, opinions differ that's why ultimately consensus expertise matters particularly on complex issues whether medical, ethical, judicial or psychological.

Unfortunately, everyone these days thinks they’re an 'expert'…

Anything you would like to say about Katie Dolatowski and the 12 yo girl he raped in a supermarket toilet?

People will like working on her projects for their own CVs and paychecks. The actors aren’t going to work and discussing women’s rights issues all day - they are turning up to make JKR’s magical worlds a visual reality. The hysteria online on places like X is created by activists who are tiny in number and angry that the excessive attention they get isn’t enough.
How many people work at minimum wage while the CEO is on millions? How many people have colleagues with very different political opinions but never discuss politics in order to maintain a working relationship? Same difference. Laurie etc aren’t expected to make public statements about trans issues- they are hired to promote the HP world.

Tbf, I suppose there are a lot of men who would harass or beat up a man in a dress, heels, and makeup. And if the trans woman was someone who was on the smaller side and had done the full transition, including the hormone therapy and breast surgery, it's also possible that they would pass as a woman and get harassed and maybe attacked for being a woman in the male toilets. And if someone tried to rape a trans woman, there's a risk of them visiting even more violence on them on discovery that they're a biological man.

Females aren't exactly above committing sex crimes as well.

You’re a disgrace.

No. You’ve proved your point earlier when you said cubicles offer privacy. So cubicles in the men’s offer those men with a trans identity all the privacy and safety they need. Therefore there is absolutely no need for males to use female spaces. You sorted it with your previous post. Unless of course, there is another reason these men with a trans identity want access to female spaces….

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Quite. We’ve even got idiots claiming that men can become women if they have special feelings, and if they do claim this, we can remove decades of hard-won women’s rights AND drive a coach and horses through safeguarding provisions for children, who can be put at risk of sexual abuse if it suits the whims of adult men.

Utter madness.

This is why we need a third option.

Men’s safety isn’t women’s responsibility. We’ve got enough on keeping ourselves safe.

But that’s not women’s problem. Why does the fact that some men are in danger from other men mean that men should have access to female spaces? Maybe the trans activists could start a campaign encouraging men to be kinder to men with a trans identity.

I feel that the actors and crew are saying that they agree with her (or at least, dont disagree), without actually saying that they agree, if you see what I mean.

They're saying nothing of the sort. They're professionals, getting paid to star in one of the biggest media franchises of all time.

True, but according to Gender Critical logic 'that's a man problem'.

'Social responsibility for me but not for thee.'

Apparently it’s absolutely fine as long as it’s a girl dick and the owner has lady feelz

Thats how ludicrous the argument gets

Ummm. But it is. Why is male on male violence women’s problem to solve? We’ve got enough to do dealing with male on female violence. Let men sort themselves out. They got this. I believe in them.

So you agree statistical percentages matter? That's progress. Now do trans women v 'biological' men.

I’m thinking godtierkaren is possibly the same as howesitgoin - another professional thread derailer.

Humans cannot change sex. Gender critical is the slur used. Sex realist is how I refer to myself. I am not ‘critical’ of anyone except the adults peddling nonsense to children about being born in the wrong body. That is racketeering.