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SexRealistic · 19/11/2025 20:05

Lunde · 19/11/2025 17:50

Lets face it they only really think about "diversity" in terms of the TRA lobby - we heard nothing about making bff accessible for other groups (many disabled people could not sit in a beanbag in front of the bigly screen for example)

They only care about a few narrow issues.

Laurence McKeown - ex IRA - Sinn Fein endorsements are ok
Michele Delvin - gay - LGBTQIA out the wazoo

Where are they supporting the following sectors:

Sex realist women
People from the loyalist/ protestant communities
Faith based communities
Disabled communities

Etc. They are so myopic and its embarrassing to see how they are so captured.

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anyolddinosaur · 19/11/2025 20:09

@weegielass List here www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5435944-5435944-october-is-still-a-month-for-gardening?reply=148514547 The next one is, I think, Sarah Holman Harassed and Victimised for supporting Women’s Rights and it's Naomi again. However it's only a half day preliminary hearing and remote. I'll be updating the list a bit early so maybe in a week's time.

Sarah would benefit from Christmas carrots.

Looks like Naomi and Charlotte may have a relatively quiet December.

I dont know who reduux will use, they are being sued.

TheRevDocProfKittyWilkinsonTSB · 19/11/2025 20:11

I also think that's why the BFF bunch and their fellow travellers are/were so against the likes of LWS and keen to politically see off Sara and damage her reputation.

Any woman can get up and speak, whatever your name is, whatever your background. That's what makes LWS so feared, for its existence threatens the status quo of these people.

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NebulousProfessorSupportPostcard · 19/11/2025 20:15

ProfLargofesse · 19/11/2025 19:35

Very good work there @NebulousProfessorSupportPostcard

I've also posted about the very revealing comment about the film being ditched for comp through SM's machinations. Which I think is at the coal face of the axe they are grinding ( sorry, it's late and cold) ie there are strict criteria for eligibility and one of the criteria is that the film has not been screened in NI before and they'd screened it at Queen's Theatre, here they claim it was private but I don't believe it was as much as I don't believe any of the other confected BS stuff.

Thank you. I've just caught up and agree with your analysis. The complaint was astonishing in so many ways - I'd have expected a much better narrative arc from a film maker!

I didn't dump all the relevant links I found, or elaborate on the detail, because upthread someone asked us not to dig info on the service user complainant. However, I do think it is relevant that the complainant has received a relatively large chunk of support and funding both for films prior to the complaint, and then via two successful grant applications that must have been submitted very soon after the compaint was filed, if not before, for the production of a 15min short film that is very very relevant to their trans identified status and is part of a 2025 film festival.

ProfessorBettyBooper · 19/11/2025 20:17

For me, there are four major areas keeping this ideology going.

  1. The money
  • Grifters who continue to get tax payers funding for pushing this (money was running out after LGB rights were secured)
  • Grifters like Helen Webberley who make money out of transing kids

2)The AGP / Paedos / pervs who have a vested interest in the crumbling of safeguarding / boundaries / keeping kids pre-pubescent into adulthood. (I'm not saying all trans btw, but if there's a loophole bad people will use it).

  1. The people who have transed their kids and will never back down

  2. The 'useful idiots' who refuse to recognise the above and continue to virtue signal til the cows come home.

It's a horror show. I'm very grateful to women like Sara who keep fighting.

DrRevProfCriticalConditionETC · 19/11/2025 20:19

ProfessorBettyBooper · 19/11/2025 20:17

For me, there are four major areas keeping this ideology going.

  1. The money
  • Grifters who continue to get tax payers funding for pushing this (money was running out after LGB rights were secured)
  • Grifters like Helen Webberley who make money out of transing kids

2)The AGP / Paedos / pervs who have a vested interest in the crumbling of safeguarding / boundaries / keeping kids pre-pubescent into adulthood. (I'm not saying all trans btw, but if there's a loophole bad people will use it).

  1. The people who have transed their kids and will never back down

  2. The 'useful idiots' who refuse to recognise the above and continue to virtue signal til the cows come home.

It's a horror show. I'm very grateful to women like Sara who keep fighting.

Agree. But wish you hadn't mentioned cows.

SexRealistic · 19/11/2025 20:19

NebulousProfessorSupportPostcard · 19/11/2025 20:15

Thank you. I've just caught up and agree with your analysis. The complaint was astonishing in so many ways - I'd have expected a much better narrative arc from a film maker!

I didn't dump all the relevant links I found, or elaborate on the detail, because upthread someone asked us not to dig info on the service user complainant. However, I do think it is relevant that the complainant has received a relatively large chunk of support and funding both for films prior to the complaint, and then via two successful grant applications that must have been submitted very soon after the compaint was filed, if not before, for the production of a 15min short film that is very very relevant to their trans identified status and is part of a 2025 film festival.

I think people said not to dig on the basis that on the face of it it was someone ill and had been transphobically harassed.

Except as you point she is getting lots of funding as a reward for her complaint. So fair game I'd say.

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CraftandGlamour · 19/11/2025 20:25

TheRevDocProfKittyWilkinsonTSB · 19/11/2025 20:11

I also think that's why the BFF bunch and their fellow travellers are/were so against the likes of LWS and keen to politically see off Sara and damage her reputation.

Any woman can get up and speak, whatever your name is, whatever your background. That's what makes LWS so feared, for its existence threatens the status quo of these people.

Absolutely this. So much so that it would seem from earlier posts they were taking pictures of Sarah's supporters? Presumably to cause menace for other women. What an obnoxious bunch.

DrRevProfCriticalConditionETC · 19/11/2025 20:28

Whilst the court took the decision that they would not use this individual's name during the hearing, the fact is that they have very much put themselves in the public eye. They make films FFS. They release them to the public. They get funding and put themselves up for awards. Happy to have the adulation and the money. Scrutiny of their 'complaint' ? Not so much.

TheRevDocProfKittyWilkinsonTSB · 19/11/2025 20:29

Taking pictures inside a tribunal, to threaten indeed.
Pathetic bullies.
Kneecapping is so old news these days

Namechanged999999 · 19/11/2025 20:29

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MarieDeGournay · 19/11/2025 20:30

moto748e · 19/11/2025 19:05

Do the Arts Council of Northern Ireland and these other public bodies ever fund anything that isn't 'queer' in some way?

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Yes they do, lots of them:
Organisations | Arts Council NI

Namechanged999999 · 19/11/2025 20:35

NI is so shit it should be closed down and start all over again.

NebulousDeadline · 19/11/2025 20:36

I expect if/when Sara wins, BFF will have zero self reflection and put the win down to them not following tick box procedure when in fact they were the bad guys through and through.

MarieDeGournay · 19/11/2025 20:40

Namechanged999999 · 19/11/2025 20:35

NI is so shit it should be closed down and start all over again.

Well yes, I agree totally, but not because of corruption in the arts community!

Namechanged999999 · 19/11/2025 20:42

MarieDeGournay · 19/11/2025 20:40

Well yes, I agree totally, but not because of corruption in the arts community!

i agree as well. But what has happened here shows quite a bit of corruption in the arts community?

Namechanged999999 · 19/11/2025 20:45

Namechanged999999 · 19/11/2025 20:42

i agree as well. But what has happened here shows quite a bit of corruption in the arts community?

Do you not agree? Trying to absolutely trash someone for perfectly valid views. But what has come out from under the sidewalk is a number of people not doing much work, getting money for nothing (grifting) and totally threatening someone for threatening their grifting lifestyle?

ProfessorBettyBooper · 19/11/2025 20:45

DrRevProfCriticalConditionETC · 19/11/2025 20:19

Agree. But wish you hadn't mentioned cows.

Yeah. Sorry 'bout that.

MarieDeGournay · 19/11/2025 20:52

Namechanged999999 · 19/11/2025 20:42

i agree as well. But what has happened here shows quite a bit of corruption in the arts community?

Yes, especially the BFF and its chums..
I don't know about the Arts Council of NI, they obviously support a very wide variety of groups across the community, but maybe it too is run by the likes of MD and MC et al.

ProfessorTRex · 19/11/2025 20:52

NebulousDeadline · 19/11/2025 20:36

I expect if/when Sara wins, BFF will have zero self reflection and put the win down to them not following tick box procedure when in fact they were the bad guys through and through.

Agreed, they will only think they went wrong at one point: hiring a woman with the temerity to hold and vocalise sex-realist views. So I'm sure this tribunal will have an impact on recruitment practices in NI arts orgs (the policies won't change but the unwritten rules will incorporate incestuous cronyism much more strongly). It's not a coincidence Sara's supporters are being photographed.

TheRevDocProfKittyWilkinsonTSB · 19/11/2025 21:04

Namechanged999999 · 19/11/2025 20:35

NI is so shit it should be closed down and start all over again.

Things aren't much different over the water here tbh.
The E.T's we've seen in Scotland and England are full of the MDs of this world too and corrupt sods ripping off the public sector.

I really liked the ordinary working class people in N.I. when I spent time there, They were warm, generous with their time and hospitality and funny, wherever I went. These E.T. gobshites and their hangers on are not the genuine people of NI who just want to get on with their lives and do their best for their families.

Namechanged999999 · 19/11/2025 21:16

TheRevDocProfKittyWilkinsonTSB · 19/11/2025 21:04

Things aren't much different over the water here tbh.
The E.T's we've seen in Scotland and England are full of the MDs of this world too and corrupt sods ripping off the public sector.

I really liked the ordinary working class people in N.I. when I spent time there, They were warm, generous with their time and hospitality and funny, wherever I went. These E.T. gobshites and their hangers on are not the genuine people of NI who just want to get on with their lives and do their best for their families.

NI is all i know really. A bit depressing that it is as bad everywhere :-(

Largesso · 19/11/2025 21:28

ProfessorTRex · 19/11/2025 20:52

Agreed, they will only think they went wrong at one point: hiring a woman with the temerity to hold and vocalise sex-realist views. So I'm sure this tribunal will have an impact on recruitment practices in NI arts orgs (the policies won't change but the unwritten rules will incorporate incestuous cronyism much more strongly). It's not a coincidence Sara's supporters are being photographed.

I suspect the board will find a reason to close down BFF whether they win or lose and blame the closure on the right wing fascist Terfs and SM.

None of them will have had any idea they would individually look like rats and collectively like a cak-handed mob with a propensity for brown-shirt behaviour.

ProfessorBinturong · 19/11/2025 21:31

ProfessorDrPrunesqualer · 19/11/2025 18:31

Were those her comments on YouTube ?

Sara's speech was linked a thread or 2 ago, and the transcript has also been on NW's coverage at least once. It's mainly about grifters, and women's groups who get government funding using it to attend the 'counterprotest' at LWS to drown out the speakers instead of to benefit women. And a bit about rape crisis centres not keeping men out.

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