Sara Morrison v BFF thread 4

[MarieDeGournay]

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MY PRONOUNS ARE SIR/DAME tshirt please @ProfessorBoiledbeetle 😂 (am kidding pls dont feel obliged to go to AI when we could do it ourselves if we really wanted to!)

Blimey Belfast is a small world.

In this case, SD is there, and the KC for the NI gov re transgender policy in prisons is the above friend of RM, Laura McMahon!

https://archive.ph/CaOQb

(All nothing to do with SM and BFF of course.)

The Outburst outburst felt like a tweaked template to me. It seemed too structured and considered somehow. I would love to run it through that software they use to detect plagiarism in essays and see if there is a level of similarity with the other responses.

I have no idea if it works this way but am amusing myself with the thought that the software can give a percentage 'match' DNA style. And red lights start to flash.

Kneels expectantly.

I was pondering Empress but could go with the gender bending, child of the 70s.

Luckily enough i am the king! I hearby knight you empress - chief child of the 70s. You may rise dear empress :-)

Can people who are more familiar with ETs speak to whether the quite shocking rudeness and inappropriate jokes are a regular feature of witness testimony. I can understand a bit of snippyness under stress but here, and in the Fife case, we have seen a fair amount of sarcasm or hostility, as though witnesses don't seem to bring their basic 'work manners' to court with them?

I think you'd be perfect for CEO.

Also can you sort Ulysses whilst you are sorting datix. It's just as shit and what they used in Darlington I think.

I did a red cross childcare certificate 45 years ago where we were taught the difference between girls and boys. I could apply to be CEO or as an alternative I could apply to be an A&E consultant as I know more anatomy and genetics than some of the rest of the team.

It does do to some extent. I used a free one recently - needed to check a newsletter submission. It came back as 19% - I wasnt sure where that left me!

I went to Brownies, once.

You couldn't make that up, could you??
NI is a very very small place on a very small island.
I suppose the justice system works as long as everybody maintains a high standard of honesty and ethics and compartmentalising, and I expect/hope most people do.
There will be exceptions, of course😏

So the J denied the request to recuse MM, but my god all those documents listed and organisations cross referenced re NISPI precisely highlights how deeply gender ideology is embedded in and embodied by union/s.

It took decades for this to take hold and it’ll take decades to prune it back to something reasonable.

I think you can sleep easy with that result! For the purposes of civil evidence I'm saying 50% would satisfy a balance of probabilities test. <Identifies as an employment judge and bangs gavel>

Is that a catered hall, Prof FOB? most Unis have a few enterprising blokes who make a business of shifting boxes of stuff to/from storage. I suppose the days of being able to shove everything into a locked cupboard in a room, leaving an empty wardrobe for conference visitors are long gone.

Back in my Uni days, there used to be a hefty guards van for bikes, trunks and all sorts of random stuff. I remember a stud Corgi used to get sent off in his “box/crate” from my station. Presumably he had a minder, but I don’t remember one.

There was the email upthread. Sent to MD. I read it but can’t find it just now. It talks about posy Parker as being fascist and homophobic and ……. I could be more specific if i could go back and find it. Meanwhile in the real world. She just believes like we do that men need to not be in women’s spaces. Anyone putting their heads above the parapet gets shot. She has put herself forward and has been attacked. But she just seems to believe in absolute common sense?

Absolutely mad that every click has people linked with the next (and in this case the KC is defending putting TiM in women's jails and SD is the defence for the TW - presumably the cab ranknrile could have seen both on the opposing sides though?).

My offsprings did not.
They ended up in awe of my car-Tetris ability to fit the most incredible selection of Stuff into a confined space.

Maybe I should get a 'Prising stuff into spaces' professorship.

I’m going for the BBC job, I’m vastly over-qualified for Fife (prize-winning poem about a photo of chimpanzees under an umbrella, published in Princess magazine)

I have found the email from outburst to MD on 4th July. (Upthread). They accused posy Parker of being anti-trans and anti-queer. So sorry i should have found it before commenting. I don’t believe she is anti-trans and anti-queer. Although she may be. I think she is just not wanting men in women’s spaces same as ourselves. People can dress as they want and do as they want so long as it affects no one else.

You have to bear in mind that NC needs to get into the record things that will be useful, even after the re-direct, and outside Belfast if there are appeals.

Working with someone for a couple of years, some 10-15 years ago can be easily be downplayed as "barely knew her"; on the other hand "took her boyfriend" implies a much closer relationship which extended outside work.

"took her boyfriend" also shortcuts a difficult line of "how well did you know her" questioning, which the judge could easily shut down.

Was it nice; No. Was it important; Yes.

Ps i think it was her girlfriend. Not boyfriend.

No judgement there. Just saying.

SD was defending the TW in the criminal proceedings and McMahon was acting for the government in the judicial review on the policy. Different kinds of proceedings, quite different kinds of law. Unlikely to find the barristers on opposite sides in the same case because their specialisms are different.

Was it nice; No. Was it important; Yes.

Nice was what got us into this mess in the first place. I'm over being nice.

Blue Peter badge for a joke about a goldfish

MD said the oddest thing. When she was offered to finish up today and be released from oath she said something along the line of - It’s been long and it’s exhausting being under oath and not being able to talk to anyone. So the normal follow on would be, let’s get this over with (since she’d only been on the stand 40mins or so). Instead she said so I’m happy to be under oath again tonight.

Yes, that struck me too. The proposal was a brief break then another hour or so, but she chose another whole night of waiting.

I also noticed in the "verbal gymnastics" answer she said (rather snippily) "I've already said, there are men and women and transmen and transwomen." But I'm pretty certain she hadn't. MC said that as part of his evidence. (Witnesses can be in the room when others are giving testimony, MD was there for all of MC's cross.)