Sara Morrison v BFF Thread 3

[SexRealistic]

For background please read here:

https://genderblog.net/sara-morrison-v-belfast-film-festival/

In her evidence to Parliament she says I am a former scrap-woman and, let
me tell you, “Where there’s muck there’s brass” and where there is brass there is always money"

And her details on Rocket Reach are

• 2006 - now CEO @ RE3 Group
• 2001 - now Director @ Would-u-like Ltd
• 2002 - 2007 Board Member @ Invest Northern Ireland
• 2001 - 2005 Chairman of the Board @ Waste Management Advisory Board for Northern Ireland

https://rocketreach.co/deborah-boyd-email_41011329

Awk now - that’s pure embarrassing.

But absolute gold @weegielass!

I’m crazy jealous of your YouTube skills. Didn’t even think to look. 👀

She's done a blog on the use of social media by schools and school staff. So a better look at DB posts may give her cause for concern

Leaving school at 16 doesn't mean she is necessarily naive or not smart.

Absolutely! 16-yr-old school-leavers, stand proud! 😁

No of course not but it does offer a really good reason for why knowledge of academic titles and their use is absent.

I've got time for DB. She's a gas woman (Irish slang for those interested).

A woman, in NI, growing up in an incredible sexist and violent time. Limited access to education with no one smoothing her path through life. Totally self made and not afraid to take centre stage. She carved her life with a lot of energy. Must have had something worth listening to because she gained an audience. Yes a little shady, but still down to earth. Not living the high life but still holding local status.

Raising a lesbian daughter in Belfast would have come with trouble. Belfast arts community may be rainbow tinted but beyond that it's still a very small place and make no mistake everyone knows your business. My daughter says imagine England 50 years past and your not far out.

DB must have been blindsided by the uppity Brits coming over and telling her what's what. And to realise that these chickens are close to home. Yikes.

Reckon DBs days on the ET are finished but she's grit for twenty. She'll be grand.

The fact that Deborah Boyd incorrectly used the title for years is
in the big scheme of things
neither here nor there

the fact that the Court System
DID NOT CHECK HER CREDENTIALS
before using such a title and creating a name plate
is absolutely atrocious

Who else on their list has a CV that does not bear examination ?

I think he won the SEI Sustainable Energy award:

The top prize, outstanding energy manager of the year, went to Jonathan Pugsley of Leitrim-based door manufacturer Masonite Ireland.

I've not been able to find any external references to the SEI environmental leader award.

Her: "I'm now called an Employment judge...I'm a part time employment judge...something about holistic healing blah blah blah. "

Him: You are something special

Isn't she just!!

I'm behind on this, so please bear with me

SM has a trans identifying child. A document (?) was agreed at the beginning of proceedings in which said child is referred to using correct sex pronouns? According to observers this made Professor Boyd "visibly twitchy".

If SM chooses not to affirm her child's delusion, I can see that might make the relationship tricky to say the least but in my mind it casts doubt on the claim made (by MD?) earlier that SM referred to a trans-identified man as "it", at the nail-painting event thingy.

I can't see that a parent, negotiating a difficult situation with their, presumably loved, trans-identified child would refer to another person in that dehumanising way.

Just my twopennyworth.

You saved me an hour of my life. Thank you!

I get that some people are feeling sorry/admiration for DB, but she sat on lots of employment tribunal panels. So she knows she is not an Employment Judge, unless 'judge' is being used colloquially in some way I don't understand

Boyd's daughter is in a lesbian relationship with a 'gender fluid' person.

SMs child is trans identifying

NCs wording will have caused a pretty visceral reaction if unexpected

Just a heads up that I sampled every few minutes; I haven't watched it in its entirety

IANAL but how much influence in the decision making at tribunals do the lay panel members have in reality?

I agree regarding how she certainly seems to have grafted.She refers to muck and brass but this week in the et seems to have earned her a maximum of £900 plus travel.By anyone's standards it's been a tough week with repercussions.

Very little, to be honest.

The judge is the one with the legal knowledge so steers proceedings and will write the decision. The lay members will usually have a background as union officials or in HR, so they're more there to do a sense check, but they might have knowledge that the judge doesn't, they can say "I've worked in a similar workplace and this doesn't ring true."

Some are more talkative than others at hearings but they do have a function. And having the two of them is supposed to help guard against bias or a judge going rogue.

This has info on the role of non-legal panel members

itfet-candidate-information-booklet----v5-final.pdf

I never said anything about her leaving school at 16, or not being smart. Those are entirely your words. That doesn’t mean that she isn’t great at blowing her own trumpet, even if she may have been embellishing it somewhat. Trouble is if you embellish one thing, you’d wonder about others. Of course, it may be on the level.

I suspect many have got a long way by exploiting every available opportunity. When ‘Riser’ mentioned Brussels, and she came in straight away with filling out a grant form, I suspect she (like many in various sectors) are well able to avail of grants and subsidies. Many supposedly private entrepreneur business avail of taxpayer funds. Also many networking groups have in the past availed of funding from different EU schemes and other sources.

Further on that second video, she again referenced her being a professor. To paraphrase, ‘not to get too professory (sic) about it’.

I must say it is an interesting topic. If true, the autoclaving instead of incineration sounds great. But it is not about that really, is it. It is about someone who may have a conflict of interests sitting on a panel which might have adverse consequences for others in an employment tribunal. Not declaring that, and also maybe not honestly representing yourself. That is not good, and may even speak to the integrity of the person.

Yes good point and I do get that. I think she has got used to borrowing authority and acclaim in environments where it won’t be challenged and it became a habit, perhaps and addiction.

I’ve worked in a range of institutions and the more established/ privileged/ educated the staff are (I should point out here without outing myself that I left school with no qualifications and went to get and HND much later on in a scrappy further education college and later on again managed to get a degree then a masters in my 40s so throughout my career I’ve not always been one of those but managed to navigate it all the same) that they don’t confront it challenge questionable behaviour etc. They whisper obliquely behind closed doors (a bit like MC at BFF) and expend lots of energy making sure they themselves are not tainted then, usually, they freeze the person out or sideline them rather than deal directly with the issue (I’m a bit of a say-it-like-I-see it kinda gal so it was very noticeable to me).

I suspect many knowing folk within the ET system have not confronted Boyd’s misuse of the title because they want someone else to tackle it and once it has gone so far, given she is a lay person, might have thought best to let it lie (which has clearly been the case before now)

The absence of action from ET has allowed it to bed in even more because who is not going to presume the judiciary would have fuckin checked and so her use of it in those circs confirmed it.

But on the other hand if they have "unconcsious bias" it could allow the actual judge to fall down the wrong rabbit hole.

And unless we ALL have faith that the lay members

• are who they say they are
• are trained
• are vetted
• are checked for links to the case

then TRUST in the system falls down

Not just in Northern Ireland
but in the WHOLE of the UK

I think there was bias.

• Liking pictures saying Fuck the DUP
• Very PRIDE and likely Trans positive
• Was not neutral panel member
• The meds story didn't wash
• Big sign saying Professor in front of her
• Calling herself an Employment Judge??

I am all for sparky women making their way in the world. But we are in a place seeking justice and the integrity of the Court matters.

I do wish her well, but hope the Tribunal can ensure its lay panel members are trained, supported and indeed vetted.

If she doesn't get the legality of calling herself a Judge and a Professor then she might not get the point of a lot of what is actually going on before her in the Tribunal room.

snap :-)

Sorry, I should have been clearer, I was agreeing with you and just adding to what you said.