Sara Morrison vs Belfast Film Festival - Thread 2

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Continuation of previous thread - don’t have all the details to hand to add here, so if someone can pop them on, pls do! Want to get this up quickly!

I can't see whether someone has already asked this, so apologies if they have. Also, I don't have fibromyalgia, so I'm ignorant as to what taking medication means. If it's an injection, then of course you would expect to leave the room. But if it's just tablets, and you know it might occur, wouldn't you make sure your tablets were on you and you had a glass of water so you could just take what you needed without interrupting the tribunal?

I suffer from migraines, and I make sure I have my migraine medication on me at all times so I can take it the instant an aura strikes to mitigate the absolute worst of the migraine.

@BettyBooper do you have a link to this?

Also, visiting professor doesn’t necessarily mean actual professorship does it? And then why ‘and tutor’ if actual Professor because if she was a visiting professor wouldn’t she also be a visiting professor there too?

I think we’ve concluded that it is an unlikely reason for halting the court because you ‘have a concern’, the wording does not at all fit.

More plausible that J stopped her saying anything she shouldn’t in the moment and so she offered that instead.

I’m just reading DB’s LinkedIn and am glancing through all the endorsements of her skills. Here are some endorser’s job titles sound impressive and maybe are impressive but also might just be window dressings in the frantic world of bullshit jobs networking.

Client Account Director
Partnership Executive
Consultant
Bid Expert and AI Practitioner
Management
Director
Freelance Events Manager

From the thread so far no way Deborah actually earned a Profressorship.

If it was a visiting professorship some time around the 2000s then

1. you need to make clear it’s an honorific
2. you cease to use it when your term ends

Oh Deborah. Might you be a liar lair pants on fire 🔥?

Honorary titles at Queens University Belfast - https://www.qub.ac.uk/schools/SchoolofBiologicalSciences/About/ApplyingforHonoraryandVisitingTitles/#procedure-4955952-2

And at Univeristy of Ulster nomination form making clear it’s for a term:
https://www.ulster.ac.uk/__data/assets/word_doc/0006/254256/Nomination-Form-Visiting-Professor-Recommendation-002.doc

You nailed it.

Take screenshots
It wont be there tomorrow

This Dr title sounds even more odd than the Professor one. There's a possibility that you might have been able to use Professor for a while if you taught on a university course (?), but a doctorate has to be either earned – with thesis – or conferred as honorary, in which case there would be documentation/pretty pictures with robes.

Freelance Events Manager....

She could have helped with a big screen situation....

This is shocking. You can't just wait about eith titles like Dr and Professor when you fancy it.

And the sign. In the tribunal. Presumably she has had that for all the panel events she has been part of for years.....

If I had had an unfavourable tribunal outcome with DB in the panel in the last few years I would be absolutely looking at my options right now.

Do you think the judge is wishing they'd been less fiery about yesterday morning now? Because frankly the whole set up is being quite rightly called into question as a farce.

I think this is really serious.

It what Naomi meant when she said, the internet seems scrubbed. She knew it was wrong but - it was not that it was hidden, it was that it was never there in the first place.

For the Judicary this does create much bigger problem.

I checked out their Judicial (inc lay members) complaints process and not one was upheld against in 2024. I’d say 2025 is their year.

https://www.judiciaryni.uk/judicial-conduct-and-complaints

Just to be clear, the above “jobs” are other people on LinkedIn who have endorsed JB’s skills. She isn’t claiming these titles herself. I was just struck with the circular congratulatory bullshit of it all! Do any of these people do anything?

It's interesting as you click on the various entities listed for DB.

Many of them have loads of other people involved but some of the same names just seem to recirculate.

Also not unusual for people to add in their titles on Companies House in a not strictly logical way ie using the term Prof as part of your name for one entry but not all on CH. And loads of Dr titles and OBE (2 of whom also feature with DB on Invest NI.)

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/NI024640/officers

Not casting aspertions on any of them as their use of Prof, Dr and OBE likely above board but it does seem odd that really anyone could put anything on CH and it then becomes the first search return when you Google them. There seems to be no set form or checking. Weird.

Also, this revolving cast of names all seem to do very well from just rotating round & round various panels, advisories and boards etc.

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/invest-ni-makes-re-appointments/28192889.html

It's not my world (my world involves being paid a fraction of what they're being paid) but it looks like v nice work if you can get it.

@AnnoyingAlarm - I think it calls into question the integrity of the entire Panel.

Naomi says - there is a scrubbed social media presence and what looks like bias.

Panel say there is nothing to see here. Everything is innocent but Deborah will kindly step down due to ill health. BBC report same on their evening news report.

Deborah stepped down because she wanted to stop them looking. Because she had no judicial integrity because she was misleading the Judicary, Tribunal, Dept of Exonomy and the world at large that she was a Professor. When she was only in fact a visiting profressor eons ago.

If Naomi put forward a witness whom she called Professor but it turned out was a visiting professor with only O-levels it goes to the integrity of that witness.

This goes to the integrity of the Panel as the Judge allowed a panel member to mislead her and slink off the Panel. She offered the Panel Member stepping down to Naomi as if she was being accommodating.

So a potential fraudulent panel member got away and Naomi is left with an angry Judge and a panel who views her correct (but a little bit misdirected) challenge as unfounded.

That’s prejudicial to Sara so I don’t know how they can in good faith move forward if it’s true.

On my bingo card for Monday - Judge recuses entire panel due to potential academic fraud of panel member!

Yes, all v circular and all v positive spiral of proof stuff.

Seems this is just a whole.way of life for some people.

Mad to think some of us jump through every hoop for beans every day, isn't it.

Wonder how the R legal team is feeling about this too..as they were very dismissive and steering re NC interventions and concerns.

Surely they also would resent having been presenting their case to someone without the correct qualifications and standing to be hearing it?

This is all absolutely fascinating - if you choose just one of the names DB was added to Invest NI with and Google them then everything comes back to Invest NI investing in them! They all seem to have several companies too.

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/printing-firm-aims-to-grow-exports-and-create-21-jobs/34418566.html

I'd love to do through all the Dr's and OBEs and Profs to see what's what....

I am sure they’ve sat many times before that panel member and won’t even want to think about the topic.

He won’t be looking. No one local would be looking because she’s been sitting there calling herself a professor for 20 years.

In comes people not from here who start doing things differently from the way we do things here and bingo a potential fraudster is uncovered.

It is because Naomi is only focused on justice and don’t fit in with the ‘nothing to see here’ nonsense that this stuff comes out.

Just a thought here. If Belfast is a small area, did he know her too? And how much was a 'favour for a favour and don't rock the boat' culture where stepping out of line could severely damage your friendship circle and employment prospects. And, to paraphrase Scooby Doo, they would have got away with it if it hadn't been from that pesky London barrister and her IT savvy sidekick.

That would take forever but if Sara’s case leads to a takedown of the establishment at your hands, the more power to her elbow!

They wouldn’t find it because they wouldn’t look. Sean would have come up from puppilage taking it at face value she was a Professor.

Also he doesn’t know unless he reads on here 🤪

Good point. So why the anger? Is it as simple as London outsider rocking the boat? Judge was saying something like 'we don't do it like that here...' I thought ET's were meant to be boring?

Someone has got to be making a film about all this. I've never been so interested in employment tribunals in my entire life.