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The Bluestocking: All You Need to Know About Risk Assessments, Jazz Hands, Battenberg and Sourdough (But Were Afraid to Ask) - and gerbils. Lots and lots of gerbils.

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MyrtleLion · 11/11/2025 23:23

Welcome to The Bluestocking, the perfectly overblown, gloriously chaotic all-women’s pub where you can have a bit of a lie down if you need it.

Expect serious debates on musicals, cake and knitting, and whimsical musings on women’s rights and why the world’s on fire (again), all under the calm supervision of our support staff: gerbils, capybaras, and the occasional quokka on secondment.

The alcohol won’t get you drunk, the pastries won’t make you fat, but the conversation will digress, and that’s the point.

Remember to namechange before posting if you’re sometimes someone else.

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AsWithGlad · 25/11/2025 17:53

@MarieDeGournay wrote
It's only November, but maybe nearer Christmas we'll post links to them, to share our very little carol tradition?

That sounds an excellent idea. I look forward to it.

Mulled wine sounds perfect now, even if I’ll have to fetch it myself. Ah…

ifIwerenotanandroid · 25/11/2025 17:56

Can't remember who needed the sleep gerbil, but here she is with the dream gerbil.

The Bluestocking: All You Need to Know About Risk Assessments, Jazz Hands, Battenberg and Sourdough (But Were Afraid to Ask) - and gerbils. Lots and lots of gerbils.
Magpiecomplex · 25/11/2025 18:08

Could I have some mulled apple juice please? I don't know what the massagerbils put in their liniment but my leg is feeling much better today.

As the possessor of a December birthday, I'd also like to say a hearty

BAH HUMBUG

to everyone talking about carols. Humph.

MyrtleLion · 25/11/2025 18:10

ifIwerenotanandroid · 25/11/2025 17:39

There's mulled wine on the go, but you might have to get it from the kitchen yourself - the gerbils are getting sozzled instead of serving it.

Hence the gas masks for table service.

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 25/11/2025 19:13

AsWithGlad · 25/11/2025 16:37

@MarieDeGournay , there’s probably a lot of overlap between what you call ‘the great English carols’ and what I referred to as ‘congregational carols’. All good.

My favourites tend to be ones sung only by the choir, though, especially sung in a large ancient space with lots of cold stone echo.

My first proper job was in a Catholic school, but I can’t remember what we sang. Their chapel wasn’t big enough for the whole school, and I can only remember us all trooping to the big Catholic Church once in five years so perhaps it wasn’t a big thing there. Or, I’ve just forgotten. I was still singing in a separate chapel choir at the time.

Did you have Personent Hodie at school, Marie? As well as the tune, I love the way the words sound even though I couldn’t translate much of it.

et de vir vir vir
et de vir vir vir
et de virgineo ventre procreatus
(conceived in a virginal womb)

Christmas music is my absolute favourite! I well remember Personet Hodie - I can’t remember the last time I sang it, though.

My personal favourite is In Dulci Jubilo - the 8 part arrangement. But to be honest, if I started listing all my favourite Christmas music, I’d be here until the new year!

ChristmasStars · 25/11/2025 19:15

ifIwerenotanandroid · 25/11/2025 17:56

Can't remember who needed the sleep gerbil, but here she is with the dream gerbil.

Oh that might have been me! Thank you, I love that.

AsWithGlad · 25/11/2025 20:19

Magpiecomplex · 25/11/2025 18:08

Could I have some mulled apple juice please? I don't know what the massagerbils put in their liniment but my leg is feeling much better today.

As the possessor of a December birthday, I'd also like to say a hearty

BAH HUMBUG

to everyone talking about carols. Humph.

None of those unmentionable songs

I haven’t seen any gerbils but there are other small fluffy beings, like meeces.

AsWithGlad · 25/11/2025 20:27

Ah, I lost the link with the edit.

Try this one or this one.

Magpiecomplex · 25/11/2025 20:39

AsWithGlad · 25/11/2025 20:27

Ah, I lost the link with the edit.

Try this one or this one.

Oh yes, perfect!

NotAtMyAge · 25/11/2025 21:10

EdithStourton · 25/11/2025 16:49

Sometimes I used to make what we called Scotch pancakes or drop scones for the DC after school on cold days. They could consume their bodyweight in them.

Since we're talking Christmas music, this is one of my favourites (and this version was recorded in the Ship of the Fens).
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Thank you so much for that link, Edith. A truly exquisite rendering of a carol I first learned in 1960 at the age of 14 when I'd just started to learn German. Our young and enthusiastic German teacher tried lots of ways of leavening the hard work of mastering the grammar, including carols and folksongs. I later sang it in the chapel choir in my first year at college in 1965, for the annual Nine Lessons and Carols by candlelight, a revelation to someone brought up in the simplicity of the Congregationalist tradition, where candles were unknown.

EdithStourton · 25/11/2025 21:55

I heard The Gesualdo Six live in a huge old church in deepest Suffolk a few years ago now. The acoustic was perfect and when they finished I had chills down my spine.

Very nice friendly chatty blokes, as well.

knittedsloth · 25/11/2025 22:27

ifIwerenotanandroid · 25/11/2025 15:12

Can I recommend M&S pikelets instead of crumpets? Like crumpets, but without the leathery sole.

Leathery sole mnmnmmmm

The Bluestocking: All You Need to Know About Risk Assessments, Jazz Hands, Battenberg and Sourdough (But Were Afraid to Ask) - and gerbils. Lots and lots of gerbils.
MyrtleLion · 25/11/2025 22:44

I meant to let you all know that the interview went really well with one of the interviewers saying things like "perfect", nodding her head and looking very pleased.

The cheerleading gerbils were very supportive and discreet.

They say that the right job is really easy until it isn't and this one is still really easy. Thank you all for your support 💙

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knittedsloth · 25/11/2025 22:51

AsWithGlad · 25/11/2025 15:55

May I unrecommend M&S gluten-free pikelets/crumpets?

Generally their g-f bakery items are good, but those are almost inedible.

(The things my Yorkshire mother referred to as pikelets I later learned to call crumpets.The thinner items other people call pikelets were Scotch pancakes to her.)

🤨 Aswith is NOT impressed

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ErrolTheDragon · 25/11/2025 23:00

Some baked goods need gluten and trying to make a GF version is simply futile.

AsWithGlad · 25/11/2025 23:10

knittedsloth · 25/11/2025 22:51

🤨 Aswith is NOT impressed

Correct!

That image is just like me, except my hair is long and still dark, and I’m fatter. The piano and the glasses are just right. 💓

AsWithGlad · 25/11/2025 23:25

That all sounds very positive, well done. I am Glad.

Fingers crossed for continued good news @MyrtleLion .

AsWithGlad · 25/11/2025 23:40

Woolly Hugs recently had an auction to raise funds, shared between WH and two care leavers’ charities. There was a prize for the person who most accurately guessed the amount raised, which was £4602.87. 💜🤍💚

The winner was announced this evening. @Magpiecomplex, it could have been you.

Picture will follow.

The Bluestocking: All You Need to Know About Risk Assessments, Jazz Hands, Battenberg and Sourdough (But Were Afraid to Ask) - and gerbils. Lots and lots of gerbils.
Magpiecomplex · 26/11/2025 06:44

😂😂😂

Magpiecomplex · 26/11/2025 08:37

EdithStourton · 25/11/2025 21:55

I heard The Gesualdo Six live in a huge old church in deepest Suffolk a few years ago now. The acoustic was perfect and when they finished I had chills down my spine.

Very nice friendly chatty blokes, as well.

I started reading that as if their regular domicile is a huge old church in deepest Suffolk. Thought it was a bit weird, an artistic ménage à six... Then I realised my error.

EdithStourton · 26/11/2025 08:41

Fingers crossed for you, Myrtle.

MarieDeGournay · 26/11/2025 09:27

AsWithGlad · 25/11/2025 20:27

Ah, I lost the link with the edit.

Try this one or this one.

I haven't seen any Muppet things in years and years, thank you for reminding me about how wonderful they are! and how well they have aged.

There are some stand-out moments from their TV programmes that I still remember decades later - like their interpretation of the nursery rhyme Jack and Jill - Jill was played by Miss Piggy I think? wearing a trench coat with the collar up, a black beret at a jaunty angle, and a Veronica Lake curtain of blonde hair half-covering her face, saying moodily:
'I'll go up the hill with ya, Jack. I'll fetch a pail o' water with ya, Jack. But I won't take the tumble with ya, Jack'😁
Literally unforgettably funny!

MarieDeGournay · 26/11/2025 09:49

knittedsloth · 25/11/2025 22:27

Leathery sole mnmnmmmm

I hope the outcome of the interview is good, Myrtle, and I'm glad that the cheerbils did their job discreetly, it could have been off-putting if they tried to answer the interviewer's questions with a piece of interpretative dance, composed and choreographed by BoilySmile

So knittedsloth - you like the leathery bits at the bottom of crumpets?

I've just checked online, and yes, it's true: the diet of the sloth consists of

  • Bobacaceae flowers
  • Barrigon leaves and flowers (Pseudobombax septenatum)
  • Liana
  • Espave (Anacardium excelsum)
  • Poró (Cochlospermum vitifolium).
  • Jobo (Spondias spp.)
  • the leathery bits at the bottom or crumpets.

I didn't know that! Every day a school day at the Bluestocking, eh?Wink

[I love the word 'Pseudobombax']

ErrolTheDragon · 26/11/2025 10:04

Maybe this veggie/vegan alternative to leather can be used for the paw pads of knitted sloths?

MarieDeGournay · 26/11/2025 10:12

Thank you Edith for that lovely piece by Praetorius - and for cleverly tying together two themes: Ely Cathedral and Christmas music.

The only piece I know by Praetorius is his very jolly dance, La Volta, which was on a 'mix' tape I had in my car, when cars had cassette playersSmile

I'm fascinated by the Latinisation of names - I get the impression that if you were a scholar in Northern Europe at that time, it was the Done Thing to find a Latin equivalent for your surname. Praetorius was born 'Schultze'.

Neither Schütz nor Scheidt Latinised their names, it's as if they looked into the future, saw a very serious-looking Radio 3 announcer and said -
'Let's keep our names as Schütz and Scheidt.. tee hee..'Grin

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