Trans Liberation Group

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The MP Zarah Sultana of Your Party has posed with a new group called The Trans Liberation Group. All fine if she truly believes men can be women. The group are active on X with a small following. They have a website. https://transliberationgroup.org.uk

They are also targeting students at universities to join Your Party. Again all fine if politics is the motive. Call me a cynic but I think students are very vulnerable and easily sucked into politics that look different. It feels like these Trans Liberation Group are trying to be less TRA and more mainstream. Either way they may suck in vulnerable groups.

I also find ZS somewhat disingenuous. She raves about Palestine but rails against Israel. She does know that Palestine and Hamas would not support her stance on Trans people surely?

I think the consensus was that's a bot post.

I am increasingly concerned that the trans community have been infiltrated by AGP males

Surely AGP males are at the core of the trans movement, and always have been? Isn't it based on male sex fetishism? The women involved seem very different -- confused and unhappy rather than glorying in 'trans joy'.

If you are truly interested in the safety of women then please look into the actual number of assaults in women's only spaces in the UK carried out by trans women. You will find nothing

Oh for heaven's sake, I can think of numerous cases off the top of my head, late at night and without having time to check spellings:

Katie Dolatowski assaulted a child in women's toilets, Karen White assaulted prisoners in a women's prison, the Bash Back thugs violently harassing women at the recent Filia women's conference, the unnamed trans-identifying male who raped a woman in hospital in 2021. All of these in Britain in the past few years. Just a few of many cases.

The subject of this thread Trans Lib Group are trying to get Your Party to be focused on pushing genderist thinking on trans ideas in a party which has been obsessed with the Gaza conflict.

However the problem is YP has 4 MPs who are Muslims who really care about Gaza but who hate genderist thinking as is standard for most Muslims in the UK and worldwide.

It is looking like the Gaza MPs along with Corbyn as seizing control of the party and are going to sideline the trans stuff and Sultana at the party conference. As often occurs "Queers" for Palestine are just window dressing for socially conservative Muslims who would ban them if they ever got real power.

All this has been discussed in depth in the YP party threads recent developments in the last week are indicating the fix seems to be in and the Gaza MPs will be the real controllers of YP.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5440730-your-corbynsultana-party-discussion-thread-part-2?page=1

For those interested in sex and gender this development is going to be key. Because the Trans Lib Group are actually a mens rights group they are naturally attracted towards supporting patriarchal religions like Islam. Note the Trans activists never really challenge Islam when it says there are only two sexes and one is subordinate to the other. Nor are they very interested in opposing fundementalist Christians they do criticise them more, but considering the Vatican thinks genderism is Satanic and is fighting it accordingly they never go full out against them. Because the Pope a man is allowed to say what he thinks.

The real threat for men in the TLG is of course pesky women saying the truth. They will try ANYTHING to silence them. This double standard is a big problem for them. It hampers their effectiveness and exposes their hypocrisy.

Worth a read……https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/11/11/the-trans-reckoning-has-arrived/

They ARE the trans movement.

Well said @Shedmistress many are union reps or manage staff network groups. There is another thread which has just started which also references the Spiked article by Stella O’Malley. It might be of interest to those commenting on this one as a way to move on.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5444000-what-did-you-know-and-when-did-you-know-it?reply=148522421

Where are all the middle aged women who have transitioned to present as men? It seems there are many middle aged men presenting as women, or rather living their fetish out in public, any stats on transition would be useful to compare.

If you are truly interested in the safety of women then please look into the actual number of assaults in women's only spaces in the UK carried out by trans women. You will find nothing

I'm returning to this gobsmackingly huge lie because it was written so casually, as if it was a well known fact that could be easily verified by published evidence. So naturally a lot of readers who are new to this issue might well accept it at face value.

The website transcrimeuk.com has been documenting recorded crimes by this 'most oppressed minority' for the past eight years. It includes a small number of cases going back to the 1980s, but the vast majority of cases happened since 2000. That's understandable because historic crime is harder to research, and the number of trans-identifying men has soared in recent years.

Transcrimeuk.com records 347 convictions of assault by trans-identifying men against women or children, including 21 murders or attempted murder of women or children.

On top of that were 65 convictions for possession of images of child sexual abuse or extreme pornography.

Those are only a few of the crimes committed by trans-identifying people (the overwhelming majority being men) in a long list of categories. I couldn't count the whole number in every category.

Statistics from the Ministry of Justice show, on 31 March 2024, there were approximately 295 transgender prisoners in England and Wales, 151 identified their legal gender as male and were convicted of a sexual offense, compared to five or fewer who identified their legal gender as female

https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/18973/pdf/
A Swedish study showed that male to female transitioners retained a male pattern regarding criminality. The same was true regarding violent crime.
MtF transitioners were over 6 times more likely to be convicted of an offence than female comparators and 18 times more likely to be convicted of a violent offence. The group had no statistically significant differences from other natal males, for convictions in general or for violent offending.

Trans-identifying prisoners are 2.5 times more likely than other men to have been convicted of sexual offences:
https://www.crimeandjustice.org.uk/prison-service-needs-work-facts-not-fiction
In 2018, the BBC Reality Check team found that 48 per cent of transgender
offenders were serving time for a sexual offence (the figure for the general prison population is just 19 per cent).

Official Ministry of Justice statistics from March 2024 state:
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/hmpps-offender-equalities-annual-report-2023-to-2024/hmpps-offender-equalities-report-202324
show The number of transgender prisoners recorded has continued to increase this year. As with last year, most transgender prisoners were legally male