Martine Croxall was out of order, says the BBC

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FFS

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3epwz08ewzo

That article from Janice is spot on. Ive a friend who sat on a committee at the BBC who saw this in real time. She told me about sitting through a meeting at the time of the Lia Thomas controversy where it was never mentioned and where all the trans stories put forward were affirmative. And she said nothing because she's got a family to feed. It's been horrible for women within the BBC who've been silenced into submission from fear. It's why I'd get rid of all these LGBTQ work groups, they may have been formed with good intentions but they destroy everything.

I hear that you’re saying but I think I find their sudden laser focus on impartiality all the less convincing given the recent lack of impartiality and lack of consistency in application of their standards.

They’ve had countless complaints on things like the blatant hostility from interviewees in Woman’s Hour to GC guests, total lack of editorial impartiality in featuring anti women male guests and refusing to invite GC guests (a blacklist has been alleged), actual lies about the law, etc etc. All batted away and denied.

Now all of a sudden a split second eyebrow flash and one word added to the script is beyond the pale. I’m not buying it.

I thought that was brilliant too

the BBC were so keen to be "impartial" they used to put batshit climate change deniers up against actual scientists in the name of "impartiality"

And yet they will have any number of people wittering on about gender identity and how hateful women who want sex based spaces are - with nobody offering an oppsing view. Make it make sense

This is interesting as I have never ever heard a transman complaining about these thing? Anyone else?

When you cancel I bet they don't even ask why?
Even if thousands of people did this they'd never realise it was about their pro trans stance.

I deliberately don't click on anything even vaguely trans on their news site now because I don't want them to say "the public WANT it" I want those stories to flop so we can see real news, not what someone is wearing as a trans pageant entrant in Brazil for example.

If you want to learn about a transman trying to undermine the reality of sex so that it is suppressed to elevate gender identity in its place, you'll learn more by reading about Freddy McConnell.

Sonia Sodha just on R4 Today and replied to Amol Rajan about the "BBC newsreader reprimanded for changing a narrative" with how Justin Webb was disciplined for stating a fact (tw are biological males) and Croxall, whilst the same complaints department won't address complaints on the BBC assigning female pronouns to male murderers without even explaining that they are making a choice to do so

Sonya Sodha was on the Today programme on Radio 4 to talk about the bias issue (in the segment just before half 8). I think they were supposed to talk about this issue in a theoretical way but Sodha provided lots of lovely details to inform the audience. She was very good as usual.

Snap!

Says the BBC propaganda machine. I think it’s yet another example of how they are not independent.

Splicing Trumps speech - they clearly want us to hate Trump.
The Hamas propaganda last year. They want us to feel sympathy for Hamas.
Trans ideology. They are pro Trans.

The Telegraph have done a great job uncovering and talking about this corrupt organisation. Well done to the whistle blower.

If the BBC support an agenda the public should do their own extensive research because they are biased and clearly have an agenda. I have found BBC reporting over the past few years useful as it is clear what the governments agenda is and allows me to research reality. And I say that as someone who listened to R4 daily for decades.

This upheld complaint couldn’t have happened at a better time. More TV licences will be cancelled. Expression crime at the bbc!

So the Guardian has decided to ignore the actual story, but instead go with the angle that Boris Johnson and his mates are trying to undermine the BBC

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/nov/07/boris-johnson-trying-to-undermine-bbc-leadership-insiders-fear-after-leak

This quote from Boris amused me though, “The first I heard of Michael Prescott’s report was when I saw it on the Telegraph website. The Panorama fabrication is scandalous. Why don’t you try to establish how and why that happened rather than making up more mad lefty nonsense?” 🤣

I fear that Johnson’s grip on reality is almost as tenuous as some of the editors at the Beeb.

the BBC appear to have a policy of hard left intersectionality. It’s far from impartial.

Sorry, but they don't care. They're not putting out 3 drag queen pieces a day for the audience. It's a propaganda machine.

If you want to complain to the BBC best to do it in terms of the bias involved in using the term "pregnant people". The newsreader was great right to react to blatant bias from the BBC.

It's not about Boris though, as much as the Guardian would like to be. There is a story there, which the Guardian is choosing to ignore. A good journalist would look into the many, many complaints of the BBC lacking impartiality on certain issues.

But because the exact same accusations have been levelled at the Guardian, it's easier for them to blame it all on some right-wing conspiracy to bring down the BBC.

I listened to the "Today" programme and I found it frustrating that they use such an American framing of the problem. The UK is different. Gender critical ideas cut across all parties and iIn the UK some of the earliest protests against trans ideology came from the feminist left. UK "progressive" parties have including the Labour Party and the Greens have gender critical "Women's Declarations" which these parties have been frantically trying to ignore and shut down.

And what the BBC ignores at its peril is that the attack will not just come from the right. How many women are going to shrug our shoulders and say "well, the BBC was biassed against us so why should we trust them or support them or pay for them?"

Yes it was a fantastic hijack lol

I’m afraid I’m old enough now to shout at the telly or the radio when the Beeb calls men ‘she’. And also ‘arrived in a small boat’ - they mean illegal immigration. They never mention the illlegality of all these arrivals in small boats. I shout at that too 🙄

https://x.com/soniasodha/status/1987085756536348877

you can listen to Sonia here if you have twitter

Listening to that again I'm struck by the fact that without Sonia Sodha filling in the details, a significant part of the audience wouldn't have had much of an idea about the substance of the scandal.

It's not unrelated to the BBC having spent the past week not really engaging with the scandal because “we don't comment on leaked documents" but that it has received feedback that "it takes [it] seriously".

And that is the issue - if you read half of the argument you don't get the full picture, which is exactly what the BBC do with anything trans or potentially negative about themselves. They never report on people who wish they hadn't transitioned for example, yet we know there are plenty who suffer life changing medical issues.

Bias by omission. That was the bulk of the problem wrt gender.

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