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BBC trans coverage ‘censored’ by its own reporters Corporation’s LGBT desk ‘keeps other perspectives off air’, leaked internal dossier claims

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 05/11/2025 19:49

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/5ac2c6a0bb851134

absolutely shocked.

no really….

BBC trans coverage ‘censored’ by its own reporters

Corporation’s LGBT desk ‘keeps other perspectives off air’, leaked internal dossier claims

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/5ac2c6a0bb851134

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StellaAndCrow · 09/11/2025 19:58

plantcomplex · 09/11/2025 19:49

They seem really determined to dig themselves into a bigger hole.

They've just selectively quoted Kemi Badenoch to remove her comments about gender ideology and give the appearance that she said something different.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt?post=asset%3A91cf6e12-7e5f-4d56-ace1-e1be85faf171#post

This is how they've reported her comments"

"Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch says it's right that Davie and Turness have resigned, but adds there has been a "catalogue of serious failures that runs far deeper".

"The Prescott report exposed institutional bias that cannot be swept away with two resignations - strong action must be taken on all the issues it raised," she writes on X, adding: "BBC Arabic must be brought under urgent control. The BBC’s US and Middle East coverage needs a full overhaul."

Badenoch ends by saying that the new leadership will have to deliver "genuine reform of the culture of the BBC", adding: "It should not expect the public to keep funding it through a compulsory licence fee unless it can finally demonstrate true impartiality.""

https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/1987601695057367165?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

This is what she actually said:

"It’s right that Tim Davie and Deborah Turness have finally taken responsibility and resigned from the BBC. But let’s be honest, this has been a catalogue of serious failures that runs far deeper.

The Prescott report exposed institutional bias that cannot be swept away with two resignations - strong action must be taken on all the issues it raised. The culture at the BBC has not yet changed.

BBC Arabic must be brought under urgent control. The BBC’s US and Middle East coverage needs a full overhaul. And on basic matters of biology, the corporation can no longer allow its output to be shaped by a cabal of ideological activists.

The new leadership must now deliver genuine reform of the culture of the BBC, top to bottom - because it should not expect the public to keep funding it through a compulsory licence fee unless it can finally demonstrate true impartiality."

I am really shocked at how blatantly they are doing this given they are live reporting on two senior resignations due to manipulation and bias in their reporting.

That's shocking!

They took out any mention of the sex and gender issues - they completely removed this bit:
"And on basic matters of biology, the corporation can no longer allow its output to be shaped by a cabal of ideological activists."

Talkinpeace · 09/11/2025 20:04

Its fascinating to be in the mosh pit on twitter this weekend

I want to know which noise cancelling headphones the BBC guys are wearing

plantcomplex · 09/11/2025 20:04

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 19:50

what the actual fuck.

Exactly.

For anybody who needs it: www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints/make-a-complaint/#/Complaint%20Summary

EasternStandard · 09/11/2025 20:06

plantcomplex · 09/11/2025 19:49

They seem really determined to dig themselves into a bigger hole.

They've just selectively quoted Kemi Badenoch to remove her comments about gender ideology and give the appearance that she said something different.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt?post=asset%3A91cf6e12-7e5f-4d56-ace1-e1be85faf171#post

This is how they've reported her comments"

"Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch says it's right that Davie and Turness have resigned, but adds there has been a "catalogue of serious failures that runs far deeper".

"The Prescott report exposed institutional bias that cannot be swept away with two resignations - strong action must be taken on all the issues it raised," she writes on X, adding: "BBC Arabic must be brought under urgent control. The BBC’s US and Middle East coverage needs a full overhaul."

Badenoch ends by saying that the new leadership will have to deliver "genuine reform of the culture of the BBC", adding: "It should not expect the public to keep funding it through a compulsory licence fee unless it can finally demonstrate true impartiality.""

https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/1987601695057367165?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

This is what she actually said:

"It’s right that Tim Davie and Deborah Turness have finally taken responsibility and resigned from the BBC. But let’s be honest, this has been a catalogue of serious failures that runs far deeper.

The Prescott report exposed institutional bias that cannot be swept away with two resignations - strong action must be taken on all the issues it raised. The culture at the BBC has not yet changed.

BBC Arabic must be brought under urgent control. The BBC’s US and Middle East coverage needs a full overhaul. And on basic matters of biology, the corporation can no longer allow its output to be shaped by a cabal of ideological activists.

The new leadership must now deliver genuine reform of the culture of the BBC, top to bottom - because it should not expect the public to keep funding it through a compulsory licence fee unless it can finally demonstrate true impartiality."

I am really shocked at how blatantly they are doing this given they are live reporting on two senior resignations due to manipulation and bias in their reporting.

So they edited out the biology line. That’s ridiculous, what are they so afraid of?

plantcomplex · 09/11/2025 20:08

StellaAndCrow · 09/11/2025 19:58

That's shocking!

They took out any mention of the sex and gender issues - they completely removed this bit:
"And on basic matters of biology, the corporation can no longer allow its output to be shaped by a cabal of ideological activists."

Thus proving her point that these resignations have not changed the culture at the BBC. Is this behaviour so ingrained that they lack the self awareness to recognise how appalling this makes them look in the context of what they are reporting on?

SionnachRuadh · 09/11/2025 20:10

This is the hill they will die on; so be it.

They don't believe they have made any mistakes that need serious correction.

They will not reform themselves.

Abolish the licence fee.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 09/11/2025 20:11

StellaAndCrow · 09/11/2025 19:58

That's shocking!

They took out any mention of the sex and gender issues - they completely removed this bit:
"And on basic matters of biology, the corporation can no longer allow its output to be shaped by a cabal of ideological activists."

Unbelievable. As someone else pointed out - this is the hill they've decided to continue lying about.

Needmoresleep · 09/11/2025 20:17

Kemi, who was a very effective Women's Minister, won't let this rest. She is fully aware of the strength of the trans lobby and their influence within the BBC.

Whatever criticism there is of her, she is more than a match for Lisa Nandy on this topic.

SionnachRuadh · 09/11/2025 20:22

Lisa Nandy in recent months seems to have been not very interested in issues concerning the BBC, and very much interested in how she might be able to clamp down on GB News.

GBN has its faults for sure, but someone who watches GBN will be significantly better informed on sex and gender issues than someone who gets all their news from the BBC.

ItsCoolForCats · 09/11/2025 20:23

plantcomplex · 09/11/2025 20:04

Thanks. I've complained, for all the good it will do.
It will be interesting to hear how they will defend it. Presumably, they will say something like it is normal practice to quote sections of a statement. The issue is that they have quoted that entire paragraph, except for that one line, which is a pretty key part of her statement. And it's pertinent when the Prescott report criticises the BBC for suppressing any narratives that are negative about trans ideology. They think they can still get away with it.

GallantKumquat · 09/11/2025 20:29

Needmoresleep · 09/11/2025 20:17

Kemi, who was a very effective Women's Minister, won't let this rest. She is fully aware of the strength of the trans lobby and their influence within the BBC.

Whatever criticism there is of her, she is more than a match for Lisa Nandy on this topic.

I agree. In retrospect, her effective overhaul of the EHRC is practically a singular case of successful institutional reform in government over the last 10 years. Both she and Faulkner deserve a lot of praise for it.

ItsCoolForCats · 09/11/2025 20:29

I noticed that Sky News has managed to accurately quote all of what Kemi Badenoch said.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 20:35

EasternStandard · 09/11/2025 20:06

So they edited out the biology line. That’s ridiculous, what are they so afraid of?

men in dresses. plainly.

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SionnachRuadh · 09/11/2025 20:35

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 20:35

men in dresses. plainly.

Also, newsroom colleagues with trans identified children.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 20:36

SionnachRuadh · 09/11/2025 20:22

Lisa Nandy in recent months seems to have been not very interested in issues concerning the BBC, and very much interested in how she might be able to clamp down on GB News.

GBN has its faults for sure, but someone who watches GBN will be significantly better informed on sex and gender issues than someone who gets all their news from the BBC.

GBNews wears its colours on its sleeve. At least they don;t pretend to be balanced. the BBC lied.

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Pleasealexa · 09/11/2025 20:45

I've complained...However it's as I feared. Two resignations will make no difference, such is the stranglehold.

What a sad day..it's might not be the end of the Beeb but it's certainly the beginning of the end

Appalonia · 09/11/2025 20:59

I just watched Free Speech Nation which devoted the whole show to this, was excellent coverage, well worth a watch.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 09/11/2025 21:08

I've also complained. The capture runs so deep. I find it upsetting.

HildegardP · 09/11/2025 22:18

Are SEEN in Journalism on here? I'd love to hear them do an interview with David Thompson, the producer behind the Nolan Show Stonewall series. Anyone who heard it can recall that Nolan himself was somewhat out of his depth at times & it was Thompson who had done the hard yards researching the shows.

BeKindWisely · 09/11/2025 22:21

plantcomplex · 09/11/2025 19:49

They seem really determined to dig themselves into a bigger hole.

They've just selectively quoted Kemi Badenoch to remove her comments about gender ideology and give the appearance that she said something different.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt?post=asset%3A91cf6e12-7e5f-4d56-ace1-e1be85faf171#post

This is how they've reported her comments"

"Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch says it's right that Davie and Turness have resigned, but adds there has been a "catalogue of serious failures that runs far deeper".

"The Prescott report exposed institutional bias that cannot be swept away with two resignations - strong action must be taken on all the issues it raised," she writes on X, adding: "BBC Arabic must be brought under urgent control. The BBC’s US and Middle East coverage needs a full overhaul."

Badenoch ends by saying that the new leadership will have to deliver "genuine reform of the culture of the BBC", adding: "It should not expect the public to keep funding it through a compulsory licence fee unless it can finally demonstrate true impartiality.""

https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/1987601695057367165?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

This is what she actually said:

"It’s right that Tim Davie and Deborah Turness have finally taken responsibility and resigned from the BBC. But let’s be honest, this has been a catalogue of serious failures that runs far deeper.

The Prescott report exposed institutional bias that cannot be swept away with two resignations - strong action must be taken on all the issues it raised. The culture at the BBC has not yet changed.

BBC Arabic must be brought under urgent control. The BBC’s US and Middle East coverage needs a full overhaul. And on basic matters of biology, the corporation can no longer allow its output to be shaped by a cabal of ideological activists.

The new leadership must now deliver genuine reform of the culture of the BBC, top to bottom - because it should not expect the public to keep funding it through a compulsory licence fee unless it can finally demonstrate true impartiality."

I am really shocked at how blatantly they are doing this given they are live reporting on two senior resignations due to manipulation and bias in their reporting.

🤯

ItsCoolForCats · 09/11/2025 22:30

I assume Nicky Campbell will cover this tomorrow in his phone in. I wonder if it will just focus on Trump, or will there be any discussion of the wider issues in the report. I might email the show if they cover it.

lcakethereforeIam · 09/11/2025 22:37

I'm sure I read on here fairly recently someone posting that Stephen Nolan has gone full gender woo.

letsallchant · 09/11/2025 22:46

Appalonia · 09/11/2025 20:59

I just watched Free Speech Nation which devoted the whole show to this, was excellent coverage, well worth a watch.

Where can I watch this?

It is particularly foolish, it seems to me, to report on your own organisation's failings in terms of selectively editing your coverage to create a certain impression, and in the course of that...selectively editing your coverage to...

letsallchant · 09/11/2025 23:07

OK, so the Guardian have published an opinion piece on the resignations by Jane Martinson

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/09/bbc-attack-trump-telegraph-tories-tim-davie-resignation

I actually agree with the broad thrust of her argument that the BBC gives in to pressure too easily. It was cowardly in its coverage of the previous government, when it should have stood up and scrutinised them. But the focus of attention is wrong. There are only two brief references to trans issues in the piece. One is naming one of the accusations as being
that a group of LGBTQ employees had excessive influence on coverage of sex and gender.
The second is where she says
the BBC’s handling of trans rights has divided even its own staff.

THAT'S IT. The Guardian can't ignore it entirely, but they have minimised it as much possible.

The BBC is facing a coordinated, politically motivated attack. With these resignations, it has given in | Jane Martinson

The corporation should have stood up to the Telegraph, Trump and the Tories. Now, its enemies know how little it takes for it to fold, says Jane Martinson, professor of financial journalism

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/09/bbc-attack-trump-telegraph-tories-tim-davie-resignation

SionnachRuadh · 09/11/2025 23:49

That's a remarkable bit of spin from Jane Martinson, who is obviously well informed about what senior BBC people are saying.

What her argument comes down to is what Hillary Clinton called the "vast right wing conspiracy". No cause for introspection from the BBC itself. It's all Donald Trump, Boris Johnson and their minions trying to destroy our beloved national truth-telling institution.

It reminds me of those podcast interviews Liz Truss has been doing where she complains about how her premiership was sabotaged by the deep state and her disloyal backbenchers. She isn't entirely wrong, but the silly woman refuses to see that she gave her enemies all the ammunition they needed.

So also, Jane Martinson's informants. You aren't helping them, Jane.