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BBC trans coverage ‘censored’ by its own reporters Corporation’s LGBT desk ‘keeps other perspectives off air’, leaked internal dossier claims

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 05/11/2025 19:49

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/5ac2c6a0bb851134

absolutely shocked.

no really….

BBC trans coverage ‘censored’ by its own reporters

Corporation’s LGBT desk ‘keeps other perspectives off air’, leaked internal dossier claims

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/5ac2c6a0bb851134

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Appalonia · 09/11/2025 18:10

Wow!

Theeyeballsinthesky · 09/11/2025 18:11

Must admit didn't see that coming!

EasternStandard · 09/11/2025 18:13

Blimey

JulesJules · 09/11/2025 18:14

Hahaha. Well, well.

Appalonia · 09/11/2025 18:18

How will the BBC report this, I wonder...?

LizzieSiddal · 09/11/2025 18:24

Good it’s the right thing to do. Now they need to get rid of those in the LBGTetc department who have not been impartial in their reporting and have been gaslighting the nation!

tobee · 09/11/2025 18:26

Appalonia · 09/11/2025 18:18

How will the BBC report this, I wonder...?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt

Catiette · 09/11/2025 18:30

Good news. With this response, maybe there's hope for a meaningful change in regime and approach. Fingers crossed...

Catiette · 09/11/2025 18:36

Does anyone know if the BBC received complaints via the usual useless pathway about the Trump edit at the time, and what their response was (sorry if earlier in thread - have been trying to step back from MN a bit & not following as closely as usual). It seems more likely than not...?

And do we think there's any possibility of collated data re: complaints on sex and gender being revealed as a result of this?

The Trump thing is kind of self-evidently egregious, but in a context in which not everyone "gets" the scale of what's been happening to women's rights in large part because of the effing BBC, it'd be interesting to have access to numbers and details laid out in bald terms.

BonfireLady · 09/11/2025 18:52

Davie and Turness' positions were definitely untenable.

After a quick look through the BBC coverage of the resignations, it seems they are determined to link it only to the Trump issue. I wonder how much longer they can continue pushing their gender identity coverage with its current lack of impartiality.

SionnachRuadh · 09/11/2025 18:58

I'm going to guess that the Trump issue is the one least likely to lead to a newsroom revolt. Which is quite a thing, considering how anti-Trump they are.

Slightly disturbed that Nandy on the Sunday shows was asked about impartiality, referenced the dossier and vaguely mentioned "the way trans people are reported on", which leads me to suspect that Nandy, left to her own devices, would be saying the BBC's genderwoo coverage has been too reality based.

logiccalls · 09/11/2025 19:04

LizzieSiddal · 09/11/2025 18:24

Good it’s the right thing to do. Now they need to get rid of those in the LBGTetc department who have not been impartial in their reporting and have been gaslighting the nation!

No sign of that: The same people are still controlling the output of BBC, and have not allowed mention of the 'trans' : The complaint, resignation, and apology, are mentioned only as being concerned with a "mistake" (said to be by a third party) in editing the Trump speech, and with some perceived antisemitism.

These people were employed by the BBC purely because they ARE Stonewall 'captured', and can be relied upon to check every word before it is broadcast, just in case anything suggests men are not women.

Note, the obedience includes correct facial expression, while reading out news items which use the extraordinary invented Stonewall language.

plantcomplex · 09/11/2025 19:08

Appalonia · 09/11/2025 18:18

How will the BBC report this, I wonder...?

Dishonestly and with clear bias.

SionnachRuadh · 09/11/2025 19:09

Still lots of denial at the BBC that they got anything wrong.

The one thing that might concentrate their minds is the possibility that in a few years there might be a Reform government with a manifesto pledge to abolish the licence fee. If that doesn't cause them to ask questions like "do we need to have drag queens in everything?" then nothing will.

Niminy · 09/11/2025 19:12

So, let me get this right: women aren't important enough for Davie and Turness to resign over despite the fact that the report causing their resignation comprehensively shows that the BBC has at best ignored women and at worst contributed to damage to women and girls by its misinformation.

It's same old same old, isn't it?

Catiette · 09/11/2025 19:13

BBC coverage is infuriatingly Trump-focussed and - understandably, of course! - defensive ("Don't forget Celebrity Traitors!")

And Ed Davies' statement's downright ironic from anyone even slightly informed on the inadequacy of reportage on sex-based rights ("defence against fascism"... "freedom of speech"). Ditto calls for "sensible, calm and rational conversation", Tim.

I wish, rather pointlessly, that in these discussions about BBC balance, there could be, more, well, balance! This attempt to reduce it to isolated "mistakes made" is more of the same obfuscation of GC concerns. Always bottom of the pile.

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NumberTheory · 09/11/2025 19:37

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 19:23

DIRECTOR RESIGNS https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt

a lie to say its just over Trump….

good bloody riddance

Edited

Wow. The Prescott report did some work! Jumped before they were pushed so sounds like the board to have taken it seriously.

Wonder if it would have been so effective if he hadn’t opened it up to the public?

HoppityBun · 09/11/2025 19:44

I recently heard Helen Joyce explain why she thinks that the BBC should no longer be state funded. At the time I disagreed with her but I am beginning to think that she’s right. The BBC I support is the BBC of 40 years ago.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 19:46

HoppityBun · 09/11/2025 19:44

I recently heard Helen Joyce explain why she thinks that the BBC should no longer be state funded. At the time I disagreed with her but I am beginning to think that she’s right. The BBC I support is the BBC of 40 years ago.

the BBC of 40 years ago is the one I grew up with, the one I trusted, the one that really was the voice of the nation.

Now it's the voice of a liberal clique who think they know better than everyone else.

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 19:47

Vote on the big board....
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5441546-the-bbc-should-lose-the-license-fee-and-be-forced-to-operate-like-any-other-streaming-service-after-the-complete-destruction-of-trust-this-week

The BBC should lose the license fee and be forced to operate like any other streaming service after the complete destruction of trust this week | Mumsnet

Thats it really, the BBC lied to us, all of us. They edited a Trump speech to make him look like he said something he did not. They pushed one side...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5441546-the-bbc-should-lose-the-license-fee-and-be-forced-to-operate-like-any-other-streaming-service-after-the-complete-destruction-of-trust-this-week

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plantcomplex · 09/11/2025 19:49

They seem really determined to dig themselves into a bigger hole.

They've just selectively quoted Kemi Badenoch to remove her comments about gender ideology and give the appearance that she said something different.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt?post=asset%3A91cf6e12-7e5f-4d56-ace1-e1be85faf171#post

This is how they've reported her comments"

"Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch says it's right that Davie and Turness have resigned, but adds there has been a "catalogue of serious failures that runs far deeper".

"The Prescott report exposed institutional bias that cannot be swept away with two resignations - strong action must be taken on all the issues it raised," she writes on X, adding: "BBC Arabic must be brought under urgent control. The BBC’s US and Middle East coverage needs a full overhaul."

Badenoch ends by saying that the new leadership will have to deliver "genuine reform of the culture of the BBC", adding: "It should not expect the public to keep funding it through a compulsory licence fee unless it can finally demonstrate true impartiality.""

https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/1987601695057367165?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

This is what she actually said:

"It’s right that Tim Davie and Deborah Turness have finally taken responsibility and resigned from the BBC. But let’s be honest, this has been a catalogue of serious failures that runs far deeper.

The Prescott report exposed institutional bias that cannot be swept away with two resignations - strong action must be taken on all the issues it raised. The culture at the BBC has not yet changed.

BBC Arabic must be brought under urgent control. The BBC’s US and Middle East coverage needs a full overhaul. And on basic matters of biology, the corporation can no longer allow its output to be shaped by a cabal of ideological activists.

The new leadership must now deliver genuine reform of the culture of the BBC, top to bottom - because it should not expect the public to keep funding it through a compulsory licence fee unless it can finally demonstrate true impartiality."

I am really shocked at how blatantly they are doing this given they are live reporting on two senior resignations due to manipulation and bias in their reporting.

BBC director general Tim Davie and News CEO Deborah Turness resign - live updates

It comes after a leaked memo criticised the editing of a documentary about Donald Trump and accused the BBC of bias in a number of areas.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt?post=asset%3A91cf6e12-7e5f-4d56-ace1-e1be85faf171#post

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 19:50

plantcomplex · 09/11/2025 19:49

They seem really determined to dig themselves into a bigger hole.

They've just selectively quoted Kemi Badenoch to remove her comments about gender ideology and give the appearance that she said something different.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt?post=asset%3A91cf6e12-7e5f-4d56-ace1-e1be85faf171#post

This is how they've reported her comments"

"Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch says it's right that Davie and Turness have resigned, but adds there has been a "catalogue of serious failures that runs far deeper".

"The Prescott report exposed institutional bias that cannot be swept away with two resignations - strong action must be taken on all the issues it raised," she writes on X, adding: "BBC Arabic must be brought under urgent control. The BBC’s US and Middle East coverage needs a full overhaul."

Badenoch ends by saying that the new leadership will have to deliver "genuine reform of the culture of the BBC", adding: "It should not expect the public to keep funding it through a compulsory licence fee unless it can finally demonstrate true impartiality.""

https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/1987601695057367165?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

This is what she actually said:

"It’s right that Tim Davie and Deborah Turness have finally taken responsibility and resigned from the BBC. But let’s be honest, this has been a catalogue of serious failures that runs far deeper.

The Prescott report exposed institutional bias that cannot be swept away with two resignations - strong action must be taken on all the issues it raised. The culture at the BBC has not yet changed.

BBC Arabic must be brought under urgent control. The BBC’s US and Middle East coverage needs a full overhaul. And on basic matters of biology, the corporation can no longer allow its output to be shaped by a cabal of ideological activists.

The new leadership must now deliver genuine reform of the culture of the BBC, top to bottom - because it should not expect the public to keep funding it through a compulsory licence fee unless it can finally demonstrate true impartiality."

I am really shocked at how blatantly they are doing this given they are live reporting on two senior resignations due to manipulation and bias in their reporting.

what the actual fuck.

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borntobequiet · 09/11/2025 19:57

I think the trans issue is indeed the hill they’ve chosen to die on. It beggars belief.