New female single sex student society launched at Cambridge university

[WarriorN]

https://genderblog.net/cambridge-students-launch-single-sex-society-for-women/

this is fantastic news. The background to their story is however concerning. It should have never got this bad.

https://x.com/cusocofwomen/status/1982732118695215164?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

I don't know where you found that definition but the Oxford English Dictionary definition linked upthread gives amongst others this which is the normal meaning of the word in everyday language.

A deliberate slight; an expression or suggestion of disparagement or reproof.

The word 'slur' can be qualified with the adjective racial or sexual but does not require this & stands alone as a useful word without qualification.

The mistake you made is you're thinking of the word in all it's meaning to desperately undermine my point. Slur can be used for "Musical Definition" and "Technical & Other Meanings". Cleary im not referring to wood instrumental slur or slurred S-wave" in an ECG.........Come on. Again, you're letting your ego take over. Listen, I don't hate you, just thin you're wrong in the assumption these women in privilege society are brave and the bastion of fighting oppression.

They did and they lost.

Let’s see.

They could be physically attacked, this has happened to women who have spoken out publicly.

They could be suspended such as some female students and university staff have been in the past.

They have all reported having their opportunities limited already.

They could have their studies disrupted or their accommodation compromised. In fact, Thea has directly reported just this.

Apparently though, these are paper cuts that these young women should not describe their overcoming as bravery. Why? Because someone has determined based on limited information that they shouldn’t be called brave in any way.

I believe that the PP has asked AI and got the meaning drawn from the ‘Oxford learners dictionary’ and believed that that source was appropriate.

I look forward to being shown to be incorrect though.

I would suggest searching dictionary corner's other posts for an insight into his mind.

I guess they didn't get the right people on side

Please link your reference. @BrightLights989

If you cannot link your reference, why can’t you? You were the one asserting confidently what the meaning of the word ‘slur’ meant. If you only did an AI search, then that tells us pretty much all we need to know to consider whether your point is accurate or even relevant.

I don't dismiss their effort, but there is no bravery. "We want to set up a group for naturally born women". Cambridge hasn't denied. The law hasn't denied them. Men in general haven't denied them. They're not Nelson Mandela. Hate to brea it to you. They're privlalged women from a privileged class, from privileged society that didn't lie something and decided to change something. That's it.

As for the "slur" definition. I'm not against that being the description being used, but those here are acting as if "T3RF" is the most painful word imaged that has held women down for centuries or something OR equal to words that have held many down. It's a corny acronym that most people in society never heard of.

I literally just told you it came from "Google. A.i and Oxford Collind dictionary". You could have easily copied and pasted and varied yourself. I even quoted other definitions for the word "slur" that refer to wood instruments and medical equipment.

Your deflection 'tactics' don't work.

but those here are acting as if "T3RF" is the most painful word imaged that has held women down for centuries or something OR equal to words that have held many down

For the record, nobody said this

No, they were weaker as they were the aggressor. so that would imply the Trans side losing. Your attempt to prove me wrong has failed. Just expect these women aren't brave. Brave (in this context) is going against something that society as a whole is against.

WTAF?

“Again, you're letting your ego take over. Listen, I don't hate you, just thin you're wrong in the assumption these women in privilege society are brave and the bastion of fighting oppression”

ummm… what? Hate? Who the fuck is talking about hate?

Yet… here is a great example of actual over exaggeration of language.

Apparently, those young women facing a safety threat and uncertain futures are not ‘brave’, derogatory words used as slurs are not slurs because AI says so. But us disagreeing and pointing out the flaws in the points are considered ‘egotistical’ and believing the person disagreeing ‘hates’ us.

Thank you for the illuminating posts. I think I understand your point of view quite well now.

OK I'm out. Somebody is obviously bored on Christmas Eve.

I think these young women are brave and bold for standing up for what they believe in. All power to them.

You implied it. "They were called slurs". So i assumed maybe some of the women were racial targeted. Then you (you as in someone here" said they were called T3RF. That it!? Not exactly the Kl@n or colonialism or legal legislation against them. Just losers on campus.

I'm glad you concede. That's a strong person to do that. Good night and God bless you. Merry Christmas to you and all here

Link your reference please.

I did copy and paste and I found it in the Oxford ‘learners’ dictionary. I also pointed out that you have assumed that the examples listed are the limits of the meaning. But if that is the limit to your research, you have let yourself down and perhaps should consider more reliable resources in the future.

I am giving you the benefit of the doubt. Either you have little understanding of the use of the dictionary, have misunderstood or are now trying to cover your error and your own laziness? Is there another option that I have missed why you won’t link your reference?

No one has listed a hierarchy of the negative impacts of slurs used around the world. Except you.

You are the only one here interested in dismissing the negative impacts on these women by comparing them to other people who have been harmed in the world.

It’s actually ‘lost one, drew one’.

Can I suggest you learn how the dictionary works. You do seem to not have understood.

I have lived in the UK all my life ( I am over 60). English is my first language. I would like to confirm that, here, "slur" - in its sense of "disparagement" ( musical terms etc are irrelevant) - is not used only in the context of race and ethnicity. It is far more general.

Ahhh… found it. I see what you mean. Thanks for the heads up.

When my child stood up to bullies at school, I told her she was brave. I didn’t diminish her bravery by comparing her stand to that of Nelson Mandela. Everyday bravery is important.
Speaking out against a bully, whether it be a fellow pupil, a colleague, a boss or an institution, always takes courage, because there can be unpleasant consequences, such as being ostracised, abused and threatened. These brave young women have faced all of them.

Most people pretty much understand what is meant by a slur. We have had much to-ing and fro-ing on these threads over the meanings of everyday words, a recent example being “share”. These discussions are almost always instigated in bad faith as a distraction technique.

Australians used to call people with ginger hair 'Blue' or 'Bluey'. It was decided that this was an unacceptable slur on Irish people so people with ginger hair are now called 'Ranga'. This abbreviation of orangutan isn't a slur apparently.

While we’re on the subject of calling out ignorant statements….