Met Police set to reopen 9,000 cases in major London grooming gangs probe

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In some incidences, children as young as 11 who reported being raped saw trials against their attackers collapse and were left to become victims of further abuse.

Suspected grooming gang and child exploitation cases from the last 15 years will be reviewed as part of the investigation, Met Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley said in letter to Mayor of London Sir Sadiq Khan on Friday evening.

A government-ordered audit into the grooming gangs scandal earlier this year found there is “mismatch” in the way the Met and London local authorities record child abuse.

Baroness Louise Casey’s report said the force logged 2.77 contact child sexual abuse cases per 1,000 children, while boroughs recorded just 1.3 child-in-need assessments for child sexual exploitation and 1.79 for child sexual abuse.

There also appears to be a significant overlap between child sexual abuse and county lines drug trafficking gangs.

Full article here https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/met-police-london-reopen-grooming-gangs-probe-b1254846.html

This total missing of the point is why the current inquiry is unravelling.
It is like saying we know there is a massive problem with catholic priests and a huge cover up by powerful people right at the top of the church, the government, the education system. But we can't say that because lots of people will be offended. So lets delay and cover up for as many decades as we can and pretend that it isn't a particular problem with that institution, woffle on about how it is all men, look at Gary Glitter, Jimmy Saville, it is fine to lump them all in together and leave it to one single, superficial investigation, do a bit of hand wringing, say how deplorable VAWG is and hope to distract from the institutional grooming and abuse by the priests. Not only that, but make sure the actual victims are silenced in favour of much irrelevant shouting by the people involved in the cover up and people who know nothing about what actually happened.

Actually I should have said sanctimonius shouting. I just woke up still raging about this.

Why stop at all abuse across society, why not tackle all the world’s problems? But you can’t name any specifics, wouldn’t want to offend people.

The catholic abuse scandal was such a big thing about 10 (?) years ago so I’m not sure why you think it’s irrelevant. It was being talking about far more widely than this scandal. There are even films like Spotlight.

The current inquiry is unravelling because people can’t agree on whether it should be focusing entirely on the Pakistani grooming gangs, or CSE across the spectrum. No abuse is more important than another, so limiting the scope to just a small subsect of society (who also happen to be the punching bags of society, what a coincidence eh?) really does no service to the victims of CSE who just happen to be unlucky enough to be abused by people from the dominant culture of these Isles.

When will they get their justice? When will the media care about them? When will white men get told that their culture is misogynistic and that they should change? Funny how that never happens.

Yes, exactly.

This inquiry is meant to be a specific inquiry about Pakistani rape gangs and the deliberate, sustained cover up by police, social services, local and central government entirely because of who the perpetrators and victims were.
There can be any number of inquiries about as many other groups as anyone wants. It is important not to muddy the waters of this one.
I don't know how to explain it more clearly.

I’m not sure what people don’t understand about this @porridgecake and share your frustration. Luckily most people on the thread do get it.

The point you seem to have missed is that the Catholic priests have been dealt with , punished openly in a court of law and the entire Catholic Church is now generally vilified and held up as an example of the heinous coverups and abuse that was enabled as a result.

Now you are arguing to protect ‘Muslims’ in the same way people argued to protect the Catholic Church.

We must be able to investigate this fully and explore how the police, councils, social workers, judges etc were all complicit. Racial and religious factors clearly played a part. Of the investigators of the Catholic priests had widened their remit to all CSA, we’d still be arguing and hand wringing about it now.

https://www.iicsa.org.uk/reports-recommendations/publications/investigation/roman-catholic-church/executive-summary.html

I’m pretty sure I will be one of those 9000 cases. When I went with my friend to report a rape aged 15 we were threatened that if we went ahead and gave our statements, then we ran the risk of being charged with soliciting. My friend decided not to Perdue, my social worker encouraged me to continue. But I wasn’t taken seriously by police at all. By the time they finally got around to questioning someone I was pregnant (aged16) and was expressly told that I’d be viewed as a slag, an unreliable witness. I needed to focus on my child. So that’s what I did and they got away with it. I’m not sure how I feel about opening old wounds now. Those doubts still carry with me. I’m a grown woman now with a career, I used to foster teens, I have a large loving family and I’m finally in peace. I’d be devastated for my dc to find out my past now. It’s always too little too late with these things

@Showerflowers I am sorry that happened to you. Have you had support for this as an adult? Thank you for fostering, we need more like you, I am glad you have your loving family around you.

@Swiftasthewind you keep trying to derail and drag other issues in. This issue needs to be dealt with properly. These girls deserve justice. They were failed by so many people.

Yes they were failed by so many people. As I understand it they were failed by the police, social workers and the local councils. What ethnicity were these people? I suspect that they were all white. This isn’t a problem with Pakistani culture, it’s a problem with British culture and how it accepts the abuse of young women and girls as an everyday fact of life.

Possibly also worth pointing out to Swift that any thorough enquiry will end up discussing, at some length, the misogyny ingrained in many (white) policemen.

There are degrees of misogyny, just as there are degrees of manu things. Many men who are misogynists still don't think it's okay to rape 14 year olds.

@Swiftasthewind just out of interest, do you live in one of the towns/cities where this happened? Rotherham, Rochdale or another?

Many inhabitants of these towns/cities actively want an enquiry focused on the specifics of these cases because they are horrified at what went on in their local communities. They genuinely care about these girls. It is not racism. They also care about the abuse of power and cover ups. I don't think you understand the dynamics of these areas.

@Swiftasthewind you cannot be serious? You sound like you're in a cult.

No sacred casts, all abuse investigated. How can you not see that it is YOU and your beliefs that have denied thousands of women and girls justice and allowed the police and labour party to call the victims slags and prostitutes. The catholic church has had it's reckoning and now this needs its own inquiry.

Can you think about the victims for one moment and stop parroting the academic nonsense your upbringing filled you with?

All groups contain predators. Anyone saying otherwise is ignorant or a bigot. All abuse must be investigated. This abuse was specifically and deliberately covered up by the councils and police, and now the Government. We want to know why and ensure it doesn't happen again.

Those of us that live in effected communities, of all races and religions, want this inquiry, why do you think your opinion trumps victim and community rights for the truth?

it’s a problem with British culture and how it accepts the abuse of young women and girls as an everyday fact of life.

And now 'British culture' has stood up and said it doesn't accept the abuse of young women and girls in these areas as an everyday fact of life.

So let's get on with an enquiry focusing on the specific factors involved.

I suspect that they were all white.

Well, you suspect wrongly.
But you still feel able to make that comment because it fits with what you want to believe.
Even though you don't exactly know a whole lot about these cases or the circumstances in which they took place.

I want an inquiry too, these girls deserve one. But it’s all victims who deserve it, not just the victims of a certain subset of CSE. This inquiry should include everyone, across the board. From groomers in the Pakistani community to all the people who commit sexual offences from within the white British community. My contention is that this is all just an exercise in passing the buck of abuse to one maligned community who already have so much burden to bear and all this will do is make people unfairly suspicious of them even more than they are already. Can’t you see that?

I wouldn’t waste too much time arguing with this poster.

No. No it hasn’t. Many British people are only up in arms about this because it is a convenient excuse to propagate a narrative against mass immigration and multiculturalism. I don’t remember the working class of Rotherham burning down a hotel over Jimmy Saville or church abuses.

Ah, got it. The working class are all racists who burn down hotels.

Newsflash: some of the working class, who you clearly hold in contempt, are not racists and would no more burn a hotel than you would. They want this enquiry and they want it to focus on the specific issues of their communities because they care about these girls.

You just will not understand that.

That's a pretty disgusting thing to say about a place where at least 1400 girls were the victims of these extended-family criminal networks. And extremely revealing about your view of working class communities.

I don’t remember the working class of Rotherham burning down a hotel over Jimmy Saville or church abuses.

I mean, this doesn't even make logical sense!

Is that you Bushra Shaikh?

Thank you. I’ve been in and out of therapy for many years. I never received any direct support. I was angry for a long time but my dh encouraged me to channel that into helping other teens. So that’s what we did x