Met Police set to reopen 9,000 cases in major London grooming gangs probe

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In some incidences, children as young as 11 who reported being raped saw trials against their attackers collapse and were left to become victims of further abuse.

Suspected grooming gang and child exploitation cases from the last 15 years will be reviewed as part of the investigation, Met Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley said in letter to Mayor of London Sir Sadiq Khan on Friday evening.

A government-ordered audit into the grooming gangs scandal earlier this year found there is “mismatch” in the way the Met and London local authorities record child abuse.

Baroness Louise Casey’s report said the force logged 2.77 contact child sexual abuse cases per 1,000 children, while boroughs recorded just 1.3 child-in-need assessments for child sexual exploitation and 1.79 for child sexual abuse.

There also appears to be a significant overlap between child sexual abuse and county lines drug trafficking gangs.

Full article here https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/met-police-london-reopen-grooming-gangs-probe-b1254846.html

And I’m so sick of people only dismissing sexual abuse when it’s perpetrated by Muslims.

Or caring more about reform voters than abuses committed against thousands of children.

No issue with pointing out abuses committed by any other demographic.

In fact, more than happy to highlight other demographics to deflect about these cases in question.

Certain people seem to only care about abuses against women and girls when it doesn’t upset their multiculturalism narrative.

People who would rather hide and dismiss abuses against thousands, if it means they can mention NF or TR and get their digs in.

You’re playing probabilities here, but ignoring that there are thousands of victims here who it doesn’t apply, because we are not talking about an abstract probability, not about a hypothetical risk, but crimes that have indeed already happened.

I would also question those probabilities, as there are certain areas where it’s not true, and you’d be more likely to be groomed by Pakistani men, as the victims being discussed indeed were.

It’s almost as irrelevant as someone saying ‘never mind that you were struck by lighting, because you were far more likely to be in a car crash’.

Just unhelpful and irrelevant.

Did you see the amount of people who turned up to that TR rally in London just the other day? I’d say the likes of him and the subsequent radicalisation of the working class are of much bigger concern than the issue of Pakistani grooming gangs, though of course BOTH are an issue.

Yes I did.

Now imagine that crowd (that we were told was approx 150k).

Now add another two thirds - to get to 250k.

Sizeable crowd, yes?

That's how many girls they estimate have been victims.

Unfortunately, we can only estimate, as no-one bothered to record the crimes properly

'the subsequent radicalisation of the working class are of much bigger concern than the issue of Pakistani grooming gangs'

Exactly what do you think is worse than rape and torture?

How do you stop the radicalisation? Covering up crimes didn’t work. The working class have had no party to speak for them. Reform doesn’t hold them in contempt and they know it.

Honestly, I’m not sure how. If it were me, I would do my best to keep a lid on the resentment, throw a bit of appeasement out there every now and again until demographics get to the point where they aren’t even relevant as a voting bloc anymore.

@Swiftasthewind did you see the Black lesbians marching? My mates, I was surprised by it but people are really angry and don't know where to go with their pain and frustration.

Tommy ten names uses the lies from the police, courts and councils about the rape gangs to bolster support - why do you think the marches are happening? Wake up.

The radicalisation of working class men, who in my case are not an abstract concept but my actual family, is due to the rapes and boats arriving. It is not innate racism because the sweaty disgusting mass of poor northerners needs leading to a more enlightened thought process by your dad! There will be race riots and a reform government if we have sacred classes of men who are allowed to rape and kill and the facts are kept from the people living in those communities by the police, councils and media.

It doesn't effect the Labour MPs in their mansions or you assume. Try a few nights in social housing in Rochdale and come back and defend your position.

I am sick of being told by stuck up academics that my friends and families lived experience matters less than a book you read in 1987. We know you look down on us, mock us and avoid us but only recently did I truly accept how much most middle class southerners HATE us and think that the rape of our children is a price worth paying for them to live in their make believe world of joyful "multiculturalism".

Tommy ten names uses the lies from the police, courts and councils about the rape gangs to bolster support

THIS!

There will be race riots and a reform government if we have sacred classes of men who are allowed to rape and kill and the facts are kept from the people living in those communities by the police, councils and media.

THIS!

How can anyone not see these things?
To puncture the bubble of radicalisation, the facts need to be faced up to and addressed head-on. No hiding, no trying to keep a lid on things (WTF?), no appeasement (WTAF?) Just deal with what actually happened.

throw a bit of appeasement out there every now and again until demographics get to the point where they aren’t even relevant as a voting bloc anymore.

That's quite a remarkable statement. We keep being told the Great Replacement is a conspiracy theory, and you're openly advocating it.

I’m not advocating for or against anything like that, it’s just the way the demographic profile of the west is going and if you’re of the left then you may as well use it to your benefit.

It’s not true, and you’re a racist for suggesting it.

But if it were up to me, it would be true.

And I’m going to assume it’s true so I can use it to my advantage

And it’s happening anyway

To your benefit? It's mad some on the left think an influx of immigrants will be to their benefit. They're generally much more conservative and religious. Have you ever looked at polls on issues like rights for gay people?

Allow me to direct Swift's attention to Jeremy Corbyn's new party, where white Trotskyites have discovered that the Gaza MPs are not socialists.

They don’t even hate you, they hate themselves.

That’s why they’ll self flagellate themselves at the alter of diversity, desperate to prove their allegiance to multiculturalism, no number of girls too great a sacrifice.

Case in point, the massive numpty at the march in Tower Hamlets, telling masked hooded Muslim men ‘we’re on the same side’ and being unequivocally told ‘no, we’re not’

Using working class white people or poor muslim communities for political manipulation is what has got us in this horrendous situation with Jess Philips having a meltdown and showing her arse last week.

The rapist who called himself "Daddy" in Rochdale was paid by local labour to distribute postal votes from the mosque.

This thread really starkly reveals some deeply unpleasant prejudice.

No answer to this, then.

I didn’t answer your question because it looks like it’s designed as a ‘gotcha’ of some kind but since you insist, no I don’t think there’s very much at all worse than rape or torture on an individual level. To think otherwise would be absurd.

But the question does not allow for the fact of scale to be represented. When it comes to the issue of grooming gangs, I think it’s affected somewhere in the realm of 1400 girls I think I read somewhere, which is still 1400 too many. But when it comes to the TR march, and racism in society in general, we are talking about millions of people. Millions of people in this country who are making the lives of minorities a living hell every single day for the crime of not being the correct ethnicity. When you take into account the scale, that is why I advocate that the radicalisation of the working class is a much bigger issue overall.

'a living hell'

Like, rape and torture?

It was at least 1400 in Rotherham alone, and thousands elsewhere. Almost certainly tens of thousands. We know Bradford was one of the worst affected places, and it's never been properly investigated.

Either you don't know anything about this issue or you're deliberately trying to minimise it.

These girls are collateral damage, their wellbeing sacrificed to keep the communities sweet.

Exactly.

@Swiftasthewind how many white women and girls need to be raped to offset one unit of racism?

also @Swiftasthewind - might want to make the trolling a little bit less obvious. You sound kind of...dare I say it...racist here!

edited to add: can't add a screenshot but you might want to check out Swift's contributions on this thread - https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5433356-to-want-a-south-american-husband?page=2&reply=148111958 ('AIBU to want a south american husband')

@GoldThumb I have been thinking about your comment a lot. It agree in part but it is more complex. "They" hate themselves for not controlling us. We are "the British problem" and they have allowed us to fall out of line with what we are allowed to think. So they hate themselves for allowing us, the unruly children, to be naughty and make a fuss.
Remember the pandemic when everyone had to pretend to like us "key worker heroes" who played 'contagion' on the front line. We got claps instead of pay rises then and now it's sit down, shut up, your ration and take what's coming for us lot. But we're all sick of you and being told our children being raped is for the "greater good"