Livestream debate with Mia Hughes and Morgane Oger

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WewreIEBhe4

Only heard a few minutes so far. My he has a deep voice!

Grim - and so very MALE.

Well yes. Us un-super-feminine women are plainly just men now.

A source of great pride, to me.

Yep.

Tiresome, juvenile bulllshit, is all.

Sadly, women in Canada rolled over to TRAs and Justin Trudeau. Bill C16 effectively took away women’s rights to their own safe spaces, services, prisons and sports. Recently, a Toronto community college women’s volleyball team had three TIMs playing.
Disappointed to be Canadian. At least I live on TERF island.

And yet no broad ground swell of political resistance from cis women in Canada. I know this might sound crazy to the authoritarian mind set but democracy matters to everyone else…

Women…it’s just women. No need for cis.
Do you know why? Because most women didn’t even know what was happening until it was too late. Trudeau brushed off any debate and cuddled up to the TRAs. Just have a look at his love-in with Yannick. I don’t supposed he ever bothered to talk to women…you know, the real ones.

That cis women aren't interested in a broad protest to their rights being messed with is Ahistorical. I don’t supposed you ever bothered to talk to feminists…you know, the real ones.

Even if what you claim is true which is patently false given the decades of legislative process under gone in Canada, the idea that Canadians of all people don't have any avenues to voice their resistance to government over reach is ludicrous. Even if they don't protest (& they do see COVID), they can vote.

Anyone would think you're talking about Saudi Arabia with this kind of deranged hyperbole.

It’s amazing how someone who has publicly supported a predator like Yaniv is still considered to be an acceptable choice to speak on behalf of trans rights.

Men in women’s rape centres and the right to force women to touch a man’s genitals. And Canada still doesn’t get it.

It's a bit rich to talk about colonisation when you are an avid supporter of the colonisation of not only women's spaces, but of femaleness itself.

No, 'Sex' is entirely a biological category, not a peronality category. That would be the concept of 'gender' and the accompanying stereotypes it encapsulates.

It only seems like colonisation for those limited by biological essentialism.

Do you actually know what a feminist is? I doubt it going by your comments.
Trudeau stood down before he was thrown out. Unfortunately, I don’t think Canadian women have an ally in Carney, given his family circumstances.
As for understanding what was happening with their rights, most Canadian women didn’t have a clue. I’ve spoken to friends and relatives to explain what’s going on with rape crises centres, prisons, sports and they really have no idea. They thought Trudeau was just being kind. 🙄

Being a woman has nothing to do with one's appearance. It is to do with one's sex.

The point you are trying to make only reveals the utter shallowness of your conception of male and female and how reliant your concept is on superficail and stereotypical presentations ( as well as being really quite misogynistic) After all, as Judith Butler says 'trans' is all about performance and role play.

"I’ve spoken to friends and relatives to explain what’s going on with rape crises centres, prisons, sports and they really have no idea. They thought Trudeau was just being kind"

Translation:
They didn't give a shit because 0.5% of the population doesn't affect them. Perhaps they were being #kind by not informing you of your ideological irrelevancy?

You mean women? Being a woman is to be an adult human female.

It is you are your ilk that are the most insidious colonisers. Colonisation is the act of taking over someone's else's territory, oppressing the inhabitants by forbidding the telling of their own history and society and its foundation; manipulating the native language by re-arranging it and imposing your own language and your own concepts of reality onto the native population.

"Being a woman has nothing to do with one's appearance. It is to do with one's sex."

I never said it did. The point is right or wrong society use appearance cues to distinguish men from women.

But given the 'sensitivity to appearance' on this thread one could certainly think GC's do.

"Being a woman is to be an adult human female."

Circular argument. That doesn't say anything meaningful about what a female is. & is why politicians who don't want to commit either way use it. Which as I have already demonstrated includes but isn't limited to reproductive characteristics because of social distinctions.

"Colonisation is the act of taking over someone's else's territory, oppressing the inhabitants by forbidding the telling of their own history and society and its foundation; manipulating the native language by re-arranging it and imposing your own language and your own concepts of reality onto the native population."

Yes I know & it's exactly what GC's are doing by pretending social distinctions don't exist & have always not existed.

They will give a shit when their granddaughters are sharing toilets with predators or they lose their place on a team because a boy has the ‘feelz’.
I’m assuming you’re a man because you really have no idea what you’re talking about. Sex is immutable and gender is not.
Go back to your online community with your blue hair and balaclava.

"They will give a shit when their granddaughters are sharing toilets with predators or they lose their place on a team because a boy has the ‘feelz’."

Are the 'predators' in the room with you right now?

"I’m assuming you’re a man because you really have no idea what you’re talking about. Sex is immutable and gender is not"

Translation:
If you don't agree with me you must be a man.

Smells like misogyny…

So you admit. The TRA are colonising women’s spaces. Or trying to. Unfortunately women are saying no, the law is saying no and there’s not a lot you can do about it. Why not spend your time campaigning for more third spaces rather than coming on a feminist board scolding women and mansplaining womanhood to them.

So you’re admitting you failed biology at school? Have you considered extra classes?

He just picks a thread to swamp with his nonsense and repeats it ad nauseam. None of it ever makes sense. It’s why TRAs are losing world over. They speak and everyone sees how empty their arguments are.

Gender non conforming women and women who aren’t concerned about their appearance are highly problematic to certain types of transwomen. They undermine their narrative about what makes someone a women. They can also trigger significant hostility due to rejecting what they desperately want.