Muslim charity run

[Thomasina79]

Has banned women and girls over the age of 12 from participating. Thoughts?

It's pretty obvious by the responses.

I’m pleased to inform you that just like with trans ideology, smearing people as bigots will no longer work.

It’s not a ‘men’s race’, I read that it was open for men, boys and girls under the age of 12. No females over 12 are permitted to join in.

Well it will if it’s true.

You find Muslim women competing a the Olympics. . . . . .

It really isn't.

The Beth Din decide a hell of a lot more than that. There has been an ongoing issue with Jewish women getting a divorce.

UK is our home.

No, it really won’t.

It won’t work any more.

Women’s rights and the investigation of concerning incidents now come first.

Is it though?
It’s obviously nothing like the same degree - miniscule in comparison. But it is comparable in kind. Is there a difference in the underlying ‘reason’ for not allowing women to participate in something that girls and all males can?

That's what feminists are fighting for. We know that it cuts across all communities.

Whilst I do agree this is very wrong I wonder if there was the same public outcry back when the Race for Life excluded men. It was only from 2019 when men were allowed to enter that race.

I can’t see any problem with a women’s charity race. Nor a men’s charity race. Nor a men’s or women’s competitive race. That it’s bundled in a “Muslim” wrapper makes no difference at all.

Sikhs and Hindus 2nd gen onwards basically just marry people they have been dating. You may get some help with introductions but arranged marriages are not really a thing for those groups anymore. I literally don’t know anyone after my parents generation who has had an arranged marriage, actually some of my aunts are married to men they dated at uni.

I also don’t think such a large differential is due to just missing all the other girls. Thats a massive gap, 7% from India and 93% from muslim majority countries. I really don’t think there are loads of sikh girls being forced into marriage that just hasn’t been uncovered.

Obviously there should be zero and if someone tries to force a marriage then they should be denounced by the community and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law as far as I’m concerned and I don’t give a fuck if they happen to be a member of my particular demographic, abuse is abuse, they aren’t absolved of responsibility and I don’t think they make me look bad, they make themselves look bad.

We should be rooting out discrimination against women wherever we find it, not turning a blind eye because of religion or colour. I want my DD to live in a country where she is seen as equal citizen first and has exactly the same rights and protections as a white woman. Anything less than that is not satisfactory. I will include muslim women in my feminism because they are women. Asking other women to ignore it because it’s uncomfortable is poor. It’s saying that as a country we will tolerate bad behaviour from a religious community as long as it is only targeted at the women within it.

That doesn't make other wrongs right, does it?.
That sounds like a teenager being told off "but, but Alfie wasn't paying attention either!"

They do this so that when someone does take them to court, their hope is an activist judge [or one who they can intimidate] will rule in their favour and then it sets a precedent. And then more and more groups start using it to discriminate against women and girls over 12 and before you know it, it is practically law.

This is how the GRA got designed in the first place, one person taking a case, setting a precedent and the government having to fudge things until it was practically law anyway lest you say one word against it and bang - arrests, threats, lose your jobs, lose your families and friends, lose your child.

It all looks like a simple 'fun run'. Until it isn't.

Agree, the Taliban didn’t start guns blazing. This would’ve crept on women over some years.

Please read this

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/womens-rights-afghanistan-history

Rotherham, Rochdale, and many many other towns. Ring any bells?

Women are my bloody community! I am female. I am allowed to be concerned about the impact of sexism on me and on other women regardless of its source and regardless of the ethnicity and religion of the victims and perpetrators. Other men do it too is the worse argument possible. We’d get absolutely fuck all done if we took that tact with everything.

Also as someone who worked for a decade in a part of my city with a large Muslim population the sexism displayed by Muslim men in the local area was a genuine problem for me. I was harassed just about every day, sometimes more than once a day by men, often coming in or out of the mosque, because I dared to go out to get my lunch. I could honestly count on both hands, probably on one actually how often I saw Muslim women out of the house there in that decade so apparently I was fair game because I was out alone. I also found myself with a stalker.

And yes I’ve been harassed by White men too but nothing on the scale that I experienced while there.(Pollokshields if anyone wants to know) (No idea what it’s like now to be fair as I’ll never return.

I’d like to see an end to all harassment and sexism but it’s going to be rather difficult to address any of it if we aren’t allowed to even mention it if it’s coming from Muslim men, TRAs or whatever other favoured group the Left have chosen as their best friends that week.

Because other women are allowed to be offended and object to this group breaking the law. Why did you think only Muslim women get a say on sex discrimination and misogyny?

Good points, thank you. That's what I want for my daughter - that she has the same rights as white women.

Well, yes.

This was exactly my DD's experience.

She feels safer running through the countryside than she did running in an urban area in the Midlands.

We DO NOT only care about the Muslim ones. That is 100% your own projection.

Forced marriage due to ANY backwards looking religious framework is abhorrent.

You have no evidence to suggest why Muslim (Pakistani) forced marriages are so disproportionately likely to be recorded in the official research and report while all the others are more likely to remain unseen.

This thread started because of a Muslim fun run that excludes women and girls over 12. The reaction would be the same if the Sikhs, Hindus, Jews or the Church of England set up a fun run where women are no allowed to compete.

From the blurb:

At the heart of the event is our flagship 5K charity run, bringing together people of all ages and backgrounds to raise funds for great causes.

A clever use of words here, which probably keeps them on the right side of the law, as the purpose is to raise funds, so everyone is welcome.

... people of all ages... it says, but it's not all ages for the main event of the day the 5K run, is it?