A space for respectful dialogue about sex, gender and diversity

[Tandora]

This is a thread for posters who want to talk and share a diverse range of opinions about sex, gender, being gender non-conforming and/or trans, and public policy. It is to learn from each other; to engage in a productive exchange, and to hear different sides of the story.

It is not a space for bullying and insults. Please do not join if your intention is to control the conversation and undermine those who disagree with you.

As there are only 2 sexes, we only need binary thinking when discussing single sex spaces.

What are you trying to acheive with that post other than helping posted confirm that any suspicions of bad faith on your part that people may have had are likely to have some merit?

What is the difference between a transwoman and a man?

Bloody good question.
I assume you don't want to tell us what you think the answer to that is? In terms that don't just repeat "woman"/"man" (because you haven't explained what you mean when you use those words).

He also wrote the guidelines to allow boys to use girls toilets and changing rooms in schools.

The fact that he acknowledges his sex doesn't change the fact that his actions have been harmful

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And how does this work for those of us who don’t believe in gender ? If you want to dismantle gender based control (whatever that is ?) while upholding the concept of ‘gender’ then you are acting at cross purposes surely

Humans have two sexes. The rest is personality and individual tastes, (including sexual fetishes).

She can join Bill Murray.

The chances of me clicking on anything labelled as 'sensitive content' posted by a TRA are zero.

puerile memes, the epitome of respectful dialogue.

I actually find the admission that @Tandora uses AI to write their posts really disturbing given that they claim to be an academic researcher.

Respectfully.

And even there, you couldn't even bring yourself to say an insincere, sarcastic, passive aggrressive bullying "sorry"

Can you name more than two sexes?

I think there was some debate over choice of toilets that DH avoided ...

I think some of us had an inkling.

It’s a fact then when there are women and trans identifying males in the same space then that space is mixed sex and as such should be available to all men. There are myriad spaces where this is fine. Libraries, churches, football matches, theatres, buses, aeroplanes, Houses of Parliament - the list is endless. Trans identifying males are not a subset of men, they ARE men.

Are you going to have a word with this poster about the premise of your thread, as clearly laid out by you and in the OP, @Tandora?

Plus it’s a deliberate misinterpretation - what Taz wrote was that what OP SAID/WROTE was vile and disgusting. That accusing Taz of weaponising her trauma was vile and disgusting… not that OP was either of those things.

It’s like the way we shouldn’t (and I don’t) tell children they are horrible, naughty, nasty - only that their behaviours were.

You really have @taztoy and I witnessed you being bashed down by Tandora on another thread (was it yesterday?) for persisting in trying to get your question there answered. What struck me about their response was that it was that it seemed written in such a way as to make you feel like a pest, belittling in fact. I admire your perseverance in this "conversation".

Let me say that in all my years around academic researchers, even the ones who live, breathe and embrace word salad don't actually write in this way.

OP is surely unique in this respect.

There's no "there" there.

There can be no middle ground while one side is insisting on absolute compliance with the notion that ‘transwomen are women’

Just one reason. S/He doesn't care.