Always been GC, but now afraid I'm becoming transphobic

[HouseOfGuineaPigs]

I've always been gender critical and 100% in support of safe spaces for natal women only. I'm completely comfortable with being gender critical. But I'm concerned I've crossed a line into becoming a full on bigot, which is something I don't want to be. Due to my own background of mental health and trauma issues I follow pages on this issue on Facebook. I just saw one with a graphic post saying Using Preferred Pronouns Is Suicide Prevention and it made me want to scream and throw things.

I've been suicidal, I've attempted. I've battled see harm and self destructive behaviours since childhood. I should be sympathetic about the struggles people are having . But I feel manipulated seeing posts like that one. I use preferred names when I'm addressing trans persons. I am kind to them, I don't mention their issues. I treat them the same as anyone else. I will call a bloke Sue even if his real name is Bob, it feels odd, but I will do it to be respectful . But calling a he a she is a step too far. I would either use their name or use they.

Why do I feel so strongly that I'm being manipulated ? None of the trans people I know have abused me in any way. They haven't infringed on my boundaries . I have 2 trans friends, another who is non binary and 2 acquaintances. They have all been decent .

I just feel resentful that I'm being made to feel responsible for someone not taking their life because I don't affirm their identity ?

I'm horrible aren't I ? Please sort my head out !

So by saying pregnant women and people, I take away your humanity as both a person and a woman?

But people in the field of psychology and psychiatry don't agree with your opinion that trans people are mentally unwell.

From researching, many/most in those fields do agree that it is mental illness. Gender Dysphoria is even listed in the DSMV.

Of course 😄

It was the poster's tone I was referring to.

This is just more overwrought transperbole. And it is very manipulative in it's intent. No one here 'hates' trans people.

The issue is men in womens spaces and removing all womens hard won gains.

No not by say pregnant women only by saying pregnant person, birthing person/parent and/or chestfeeder.
Hope that helps 😊

Sigh.

Yes, suggesting you to post a dedicated thread about a topic you want to talk about so it's really visible on the board is exactly the same as wanting you to "shut up".

I apologise for thinking this topic actually mattered to you.

I realise now that you aren't actually bothered by trans maternity support now, it's just about you and your angry feelings from the last thread and your need to be right.

I apologise wholeheartedly for my error in thinking anyone else's interests in this thread or in the original topic should matter when you have things you want to say about a totally different topic.

(I also see very clearly now why you empathise so much with trans people's need to control language.)

This is one of the most incoherent and inaccurate posts I've read on here for a long time.

You falsely believe the concept of 'woman' is some sort of never changing set in stone 'fact' when all it is is a socially constructed word based on cultural associations.
Words come in to being by social associations not by a particular phenomena. Phenomena might be related to the concept via cultural association but they are not what determine it. It's cultural associations or agreed cultural meaning.

This really is utter nonsense.

No one here 'hates' trans people.

Absolutely, this space is one of the most supportive of trans people I've seen on the internet.

We've literally never discussed males lactating on an NHS training course.

Can someone taking Testosterone lactate? I'd assume it would inhibit milk production given that it is used medically for that reason.

But good to know you'd want trans men excluded from maternity services if they pass well enough..

Even if women is included?

Or if you only use neutral terms?

But most transmen are visually indistinguishable from a butch lesbian. The ones that grow beards are a minority (and still look like a woman with a stick-on beard most of the time). The majority generally should be welcone in any women's space or service they want to use, and do not get genuinely perceived as remotely masculine unless you are discomforted by any woman having short hair and wearing trousers and a lumberjack shirt. The few that don't are the ones who have gone to extreme measures (hyper-body building) to make themselves appear threatening.

Yes as 9nly women and girls can get pregnant, give birth or breastfeed anything else is ideological dogma that has no place in medicine
Glad to be of help ☺️

Hi, I don't really want to comment on the gender issue as I think everyone has already said everything about that.

But what struck me about your post OP is that you are not in any way "afraid" you are becoming transphobic. Because you have done the exact thing most likely to confirm you in your views, by coming onto a site where you know full well many people are proud to describe themselves as transphobic, in the certainty they will endorse and salute your position.

Not saying this to be judgemental or start any kind of argument - I am just pointing out an obvious fact.

I think your definition of what is "radical extreme bigoted" differs from 99.9999% of people. You are calling perfectly normal, scientific, mainstream and standard beliefs "radial extreme bigoted". Have you ever considered the possibility that it is you that is "radical extreme bigoted"?

You assume she hasn't posted on any other sites?
Reddit, for example?
How do you know?

rabid, hostile anti-trans rhetoric of MN

Yet no comment about the rabid, hostile anti-women rhetoric of trans activists who threaten to rape, bomb, stab and burn alive feminists. Who pull out their penis and urinate over feminist statues in public. Strangely no comment at that.

But feminists fighting for our most basic human rights are "rabid, hostile anti-trans".

In truth you simply sound rabid, hostile and anti-women and misogynistic.

In what way could FWR be described as transphobic?

You're deluded.

If being 'anti-trans' mean supporting and caring for people with extreme metal illness then I would describe myself as such.

No "many women" do not support sharing single sex provisions with males at all. And poll after poll shows this. It's a very fringe extreme minority view.

Yes, forcing an innocent child to ignore their instincts and what their eyes see is abuse. No way would any child of mine be forced to ignore their instincts and eyes and mis-sex a person. It is dangerous for them also. I don't understand how people can't see how abusive and manipulative this all is.

Yes, and most are young women who are distressed about being female in a world filled with misogyny, who are distressed about puberty. Who think the answer is to deny their biological reality. Most are neurodivergent and actually need support to accept and understand why they struggle in a world set up for neurotypical males.

Nothing about the statistics is surprising.

Also, the reason they examples are about men are because men take advantage of a situation and present as women to gain access to...women. Most women aren't a danger to men, so there are less examples of it.

Perhaps because males oppress females.

It's almost like..... this is about..... I know! Womens rights! Feminism! Not about 'trans' people. But I guess you haven't figured that out yet.