Well, hello Emma Watson

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www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15130209/Harry-Potter-Emma-Watson-treasures-J-K-Rowling-trans-rights.html

It also says where JK apparently said earlier that she "could never forgive her" (for her views and saying she can't agree with her?!)

JKR never said should couldn’t forgive Watson for not agreeing with her. She has said she can never forgive people (like Watson, not specifically named) who have championed a movement that erodes women’s hard earned rights and transitioning vulnerable children.

She’s clearly seen which way the wind is blowing, plus she’s probably got an eye to what she’s going to do once she’s finished her creative writing qualification, so she’s trying to soften her stance.

Problem is, we all saw how she and the other two ungrateful brats treated JKR over the last 5 years, so this is too little too late.

The issue of whether friends should end their friendships over political differences is a very poignant issue right now that I myself struggle with. I agree differences of opinion shouldn’t mean disrespecting one another but I myself draw the line of maintaining friendships if they don't treat all humans equally with respect & dignity.

I recently ended a friendship with a person who accused me of being a terrorist supporter & antisemitic for criticism of the Israeli government over Gaza. This individual not only believed that all the Israeli government's actions were justified but hoped they would "finish the job" not to mention that "all muslims should be banned from immigration".

Whilst I strongly believe she is entitled to her views however loathsome & that regardless of them she's also entitled to be treated with respect as a human, I can't in all good conscience maintain a friendship with a person who holds such harmful ideas. In my opinion, if friends don't consider all people of deserving human rights what kind of true friend can they really be?

JKR's views are pretty mainstream. Humans come in two sexes. Humans can't change sex. Transgender people deserve rights. Women also deserve rights. There is no reason for people to not be friends with her because of those views.

She's bounced joblessly from posh uni to posh uni and now spends her time flogging gin. I'm sure JKR's thrilled to be vaguely endorsed by one of the greatest thinkers of our time.

Whilst it's true that those are JKR's views & those views are mainstream, the issue is how those views are framed which for many constitute dehumanising demonising dog whistles that by their very nature provide convenient plausible deniability. Whilst we can never know what is truly in JKR's heart, we can know that she not only supports many who are explicitly using such language as do her supporters but doesn't disavow it as Sex Matters does on their website to their credit. Of course she is not required to disavow what she must know is going on to prove her innocence but it certainly smells like complicity when she doesn't given the huge influence she wields.

Whilst it's true that those are JKR's views & those views are mainstream, the issue is how those views are framed

Please supply any example to back up what you're saying here

"when she was slammed for "liking" a tweet that referred to trans women as "men in dresses.”

-Supporting a dog whistle for ‘deluded’/mentally ill

Months later, Rowling came under fire again for coming to the defense of Maya Forstater. At the time, the researcher had been waging an employment discrimination battle, as her contract with a think tank wasn't renewed after she made a series of anti-trans statements. These statements included that people should not be "compelled to play along with literal delusions like 'transwomen are women,'" and she referred to a gender-fluid person as a "man who likes to dress in women's clothes.”

-Supporting those who explicitly call trans people ‘deluded’/mentally ill

"Rowling revealed she is a survivor of domestic abuse and sexual assault and said this led her to sympathize with women who had "concerns around single-sex spaces." She argued against throwing "open the doors of bathrooms and changing rooms to any man who believes or feels he's a woman.”

-Dog whistle for trans people as deluded predatory sex abusers

"Rowling published a new novel titled "Troubled Blood" under the pseudonym Robert Galbraith. The book, which revolved around a male serial killer who dresses like a woman, was accused of being anti-trans.
It was disappointing that Rowling was propagating a "long-standing and hurtful presentation of trans women as a threat," a spokesperson for Mermaids, a charity that supports trans children, said to CNN. Rowling, meanwhile, said the book "was loosely based" on real killers."

-Dog whistle for trans people as mentally ill abusers of women

"When Scotland's new Hate Crime and Public Order Act went into effect in April, Rowling tried to bait them into arresting her with posts online. The law criminalizes "stirring up hatred" against people based on their race, religion, disability, sexuality or gender identity. By passing the law, Scotland "placed higher value on the feelings of men performing their idea of femaleness, however misogynistically or opportunistically, than on the rights and freedoms of actual women and girls," Rowling said in the thread on X. If anything she wrote qualified as an offense under the new law, "I look forward to being arrested when I return to the birthplace of the Scottish Enlightenment," Rowling said."

-Dog whistle for trans people as deluded/mentally ill predatory abusers of women

"Rowling posted a photo from the fight, accusing Khelif of being a man who was "enjoying the distress of a woman he's just punched in the head."

-Dog whistle for mentally ill trans person who enjoys abusing of women

https://theweek.com/feature/1020838/jk-rowlings-transphobia-controversy-a-complete-timeline

This has all been done before. Do you have anything original to add?

That's what I thought and she is absolutely right about that.

Im dubious about EW. There were rumours about her relationship with producer HW, and that's when she suddenly got the big film roles for a while. Now nothing. That and the driving ban just makes me think she isnt as genuine as she makes out. She's clearly seen that the public support JKR so she now wants to be back in the fold. With DR, hes massively into the theatre now so I guess genuinely has a big trans/gay following.

This is just Typical Daily Mail - a click bait headline that isn't backed up in the article at all.
She hasn't changed her mind on anything.

Emma Watson made a catastrophic mistake in backing the wrong side pandering to the woke lovies, she is now frantically back peddling before she is entirely professionally erased.

The Daily Mail headline doesn’t imply she’s changed her mind either. It says:

Harry Potter's Emma Watson still 'treasures' J.K. Rowling despite different views on trans rights

How is that not backed up by the rest of the article and imply she’s changed her mind?

Honestly, the rate of misreading and poor comprehension is high at the moment. Stop. Read. Think. Post.

She’s been banned from driving for 6 months and hasn’t worked since 2018 I read (prob in th Sun)

What do you mean “useless”? Is this how you describe people who have a different view to you? Why?

it sounds as though she wants to halt hostilities but you want (need?) to
keep them going.

It's sad isn't it?
Whatever you think of Emma Watson, a public figure attempting to lower the temperature of the inflammatory dehumanising nature public discourse has become is commendable. Of course for many it serves a purpose.

Would that be the Emma Watson who hasn’t had a film part for 7 years? I wonder what has prompted her to say this?

I think we need to move away from this idea that if a child has cast in a film, at 10 or 11 years old, they have to then go onto agree with everything the author of the book which was optioned to make the films say years later.

To call someone ungrateful brat because they don’t agree with somebody is really unreasonable. Surely you can see that. she is an adult woman, with a right to her opinions.

@Howseitgoin How do you bring up the issues of males in female spaces without it being a dog whistle to trans women as predators? The issue is males pose more danger to women for SA than other females. That’s a reason to segregate them in prisons etc. I’m not sure how you talk about it in a way that wouldn’t have people like you accuse others of a dog whistle. And it’s been said a million times but the issue is males, all males, and not specifically trans women.

On the issue of Emma, I think it’s good to say words to calm things down and be more reasonable. Of course people can speak to her motives but people do generally reflect and change their attitude.

As I said, it's about framing. Is it really necessary for the cause of female spaces to smear trans people as mentally ill predatory fetishists? I think not.

Useless means not a very good actor which she isnt. She is just Hermione Granger, if you watch the Harry Potter films all three of the main actors were rubbish, and a very poor Belle. So yes she is useless. Nothing to do with her differing views at all.

Maybe she is finding it hard to get a publisher for her new novel, which will probably be about hot shot lawyer carrie kotter (pronouns they/she/him) and the gender fluid chambers.