Well, hello Emma Watson

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www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15130209/Harry-Potter-Emma-Watson-treasures-J-K-Rowling-trans-rights.html

If trans rights aren't a threat to women's rights, why do you say women's rights are anti trans?

(Access to naked and vulnerable women and girls and getting your knob out among them isn't a man's human right, just so we're clear.)

Everything to do with the subject at hand, and we have the receipts of the damages done, and we, we - our side, are the ones getting Puberty Blockers stopped around the world. 😂 All your ranting and ravings are those of an ignorant and uneducated person and amount to nothing. Come back when you have any idea of what the issues are, as you are way out of your depth.

Queen.

Exactly! If trans rights don't conflict with womens rights, why do the MRAs/TRAs get so angry at the SC judgement clarifying the rights of the female sex - in law.

why do you say women's rights are anti trans?

I don't say that. It's you who think the two are in opposition. Not me.

Then you agree with the SC ruling then. Good.

Glad we agree. 🤗

What people are upset about are the impacts on the safety , wellbeing, inclusion and dignity of trans people. Because some of us care about those as much as we care about those of (cis) women.

Then why do you complain when women have single sex spaces? What rights do you think trans people don't have?

Great post.

I read this and thought that because she spent her teenage years filming the Harry Potter movies, Emma Watson missed out on her true calling in life, which was to be head girl.

It's a really interesting point you make about to what extent her character was shaped by playing Hermione. Because whilst Hermione was a straight A student who desperately sought praise from her teachers, she also had the courage to go against the grain and defy authority when it really mattered. She fought unpopular causes even when others ridiculed her for it (the house elves, for example), she broke the rules repeatedly when there was a good reason to do so (brewing polyjuice potion, being a founding member of Dumbledore's Army, breaking into the Ministry of Magic), and ultimately she sacrificed her final year at Hogwarts to drop out of school and fight Voldemort, risking death in the process.

Emma Watson isn't that character at all.

Emma Watson might look like (a prettier version of) Hermione Granger, but she is actually Percy Weasley.

Are you campaigning against male on male violence or for unisex spaces then?

Jk Rowling has given her answer to the ferret-faced one.

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1971191971709587676

Trans people are male or female. They are not a third sex.

And you don't get to sully the waters by using 'trans people'. A male is a male is a male. Even in a dress. A male has no right to be 'included' in female spaces. The 'safety', 'wellbeing' and 'dignity' of males is NOT females problem. We only care about the safety, inclusion, dignity and wellbeing of the female sex.

Males are - by definition - not 'included'.

Full quote : "A little reminder for anyone who may be regretting their very public sprint to the front of the mob and is now trying to discreetly shove their pitchfork out of sight."

So if there is no conflict between trans rights and women’s rights, why do trans people get so upset when women assert their rights to sex based spaces?

I definitely think the safety, wellbeing, inclusion and dignity of trans people should be considered. Had trans people been willing to campaign for the development of third space facilities I'd have been fully on board with that and supported it.
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But they weren't. They wanted to encroach on women's rights to single sex spaces and their safety, wellbeing, inclusion and dignity. So here we are. 🤷‍♀️

Why do you only care about women in the construction industry? Are other women not worthy of consideration? So if there is a conflict of rights and a male states he wants to access a female only space abd a woman says no,whose feelings should take precedence?

why do trans people get so upset when women assert their rights to sex based spaces?

They don't get upset about this at all.

What they get upset about is the exclusion of trans people (specifically trans women) from these spaces.

You understand the exclusion of trans women as necessary to protect women's sex based rights. So does JKR. I don't. Neither does EW. That's what the disagreement and upset is about.
We are not going to agree clearly, but we can at least be honest about where/ what the disagreement is.

What impact do you believe the Supreme Court judgment has on those things?

You're entitled to disagree but you must respect and obey the law.

You are entitled to your opinion that the feelings of trans identifying men should trump the rights of women and girls to have single sex spaces.

But it is a minority opinion.

You and I have conversed at length across multiple threads about what I believe the impact on those things to be, so why are you pretending otherwise? A rhetorical strategy perhaps?

But women exclude males with a trans identity from female spaces because they are not female. What part of single sex spaces confuses you? The only criteria to be a “transwoman” is to be male. So why would they be allowed in female single sex spaces?

Thank you for mansplaining the right to freedom of thought and the rule of law to me 😃

why do trans people get so upset when women assert their rights to sex based spaces?

They don't get upset about this at all. What they get upset about is the exclusion of trans people from these spaces.

And that's the same thing, and the root of your dishonesty. Since you and everyone else on the planet knows this is absurd and dishonest, you are losing.

Women have a right to single sex spaces. Men are excluded because they are not women. If women let men in, they are not asserting their right to single sex spaces. You think male entry to female spaces is a human right. It isn't. You think women should have no right to exclude men. They should.

Trans identifying men can use male spaces or unisex spaces. The latter is all there is when anyone can identify their way into either one. They are not denied anything except the capacity to force their beliefs on unconsenting women and prevent them from having their own suitable space.

You know all this, of course. I don't know why you think male self image trumps all, but you're losing more every day. You cannot win on lies and absurdity and you should be grateful you got it for as long as you did.

Framing it as 'trans exclusion' is so utterly dishonest that I can't believe anyone gets away with it, especially is a feminist context. It's a crock of utter horseshit.