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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Well, hello Emma Watson

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crumpet · 24/09/2025 22:11

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15130209/Harry-Potter-Emma-Watson-treasures-J-K-Rowling-trans-rights.html

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KTheGrey · 25/09/2025 13:24

DoinFineIThink · 25/09/2025 00:55

WTF's being able to drive as an adult woman got to do with anything?
Plenty of adult women who are her age or older like me don't drive either.

She’s passed her test and got a £30k car - she can’t obey the rules of the road and is currently banned.

ColourThief · 25/09/2025 13:33

Ugh 🙄 Another day, another anti trans post 🥱

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 25/09/2025 13:36

ClawedButler · 25/09/2025 13:14

I'm in two minds.

On the one hand, she's young, she's not particularly bright, and she was just going along with what the loudest voices were saying at the time. It's easy to go along with what you think is the prevailing opinion, and it's really difficult, if your fame, your reputation and your appeal is your career, to go against that.

On the other hand, I do get where the "No, she made her bed she can lie in it" crowd are coming from.

And yes, she lost her license for repeatedly speeding.

She's 35! She's old enough to know what a woman is.

She was young when she made the HP films but when people can and do have terribly traumatic or abusive childhoods and come through to be fully functioning adults then I do lose sympathy for privileged people who made a lot of money doing something they loved during their youth but claim that it messed their lives up.

WandaSiri · 25/09/2025 13:37

@DoinFineIThink
Emma is being described as a "spoilt child" etc because pp think she is immature. And spoilt. Not that she is in fact a child at 36. I can't believe you don't understand this.

Merrymouse · 25/09/2025 13:40

GoldThumb · 25/09/2025 13:18

She’s really not that young.

I think people think she’s a teenager, because that’s how they think of her in screen.

Shes 35 years old.

Edited to add: She was 31 when she made her BAFTAs comment. A fully grown woman

Edited

She is just a year younger than JKR was when the first HP film was released.

ChocolateTriflefortwo · 25/09/2025 13:41

she's not particularly bright

’not particularly bright’ people don’t get degrees at Oxford.

ChocolateTriflefortwo · 25/09/2025 13:42

ColourThief · 25/09/2025 13:33

Ugh 🙄 Another day, another anti trans post 🥱

Ugh. Another day, another anti woman post.

Tandora · 25/09/2025 13:43

ColourThief · 25/09/2025 13:33

Ugh 🙄 Another day, another anti trans post 🥱

And What a reach this one is, since all it is is Emma Watson saying that although she fundamentally disagrees with JKR (as we have known for a long while) she can still hold in her mind and value at the same time the entirely separate relationship they had. What a radical , unreasonable and childish position eh? 🙄 unlike JKR of course who will apparently "never forgive" EW for not agreeing with her.

lol.

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 13:45

ColourThief · 25/09/2025 13:33

Ugh 🙄 Another day, another anti trans post 🥱

Another day, another misogynistic anti feminist post 🙄😴

Well, hello Emma Watson
ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 13:47

Tandora · 25/09/2025 13:43

And What a reach this one is, since all it is is Emma Watson saying that although she fundamentally disagrees with JKR (as we have known for a long while) she can still hold in her mind and value at the same time the entirely separate relationship they had. What a radical , unreasonable and childish position eh? 🙄 unlike JKR of course who will apparently "never forgive" EW for not agreeing with her.

lol.

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EW went further than just disagreeing with her, she was deliberately cruel. And it is that which JK can't forgive her for, not merely disagreeing with her that females are human, exist, and deserve our feminist hard won sex-based rights. So you are being disingenuous, as usual.

GoldThumb · 25/09/2025 13:48

ChocolateTriflefortwo · 25/09/2025 13:41

she's not particularly bright

’not particularly bright’ people don’t get degrees at Oxford.

Tbf, there’s a big difference between being intelligent and being educated.

Univeristies are hardly breeding grounds for critical thinking these days.

And Oxford in particular, no wonder it’s dropping down the ranks

Tandora · 25/09/2025 13:49

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 13:47

EW went further than just disagreeing with her, she was deliberately cruel. And it is that which JK can't forgive her for, not merely disagreeing with her that females are human, exist, and deserve our feminist hard won sex-based rights. So you are being disingenuous, as usual.

Deliberately cruel how?

disagreeing with her that females are human, exist, and deserve our feminist hard won sex-based rights

yeh that's not the disagreement lol.

SionnachRuadh · 25/09/2025 13:49

GoldThumb · 25/09/2025 13:48

Tbf, there’s a big difference between being intelligent and being educated.

Univeristies are hardly breeding grounds for critical thinking these days.

And Oxford in particular, no wonder it’s dropping down the ranks

Laurie Penny has a degree from Oxford. Just saying.

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 13:52

Tandora · 25/09/2025 13:49

Deliberately cruel how?

disagreeing with her that females are human, exist, and deserve our feminist hard won sex-based rights

yeh that's not the disagreement lol.

It's already been said how in the thread. Witches comment, for one.

Er, yes, it is the disagreement. One side wants to obliterate all the sex-based gains our foremother feminists made, as if it were all for nothing. The other side wants to keep them. That's the issue.

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 13:55

ChocolateTriflefortwo · 25/09/2025 13:41

she's not particularly bright

’not particularly bright’ people don’t get degrees at Oxford.

Do you really think just because someone is 'book smart' and can remember facts for an exam that makes them intelligent? Some of the most dumbest, most brainwashed and most lacking in any emotional intelligence and lacking in general common sense and ordinary intelligence are those that are university educated.

Tandora · 25/09/2025 13:56

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 13:52

It's already been said how in the thread. Witches comment, for one.

Er, yes, it is the disagreement. One side wants to obliterate all the sex-based gains our foremother feminists made, as if it were all for nothing. The other side wants to keep them. That's the issue.

what comment was that?

er no that's how you want to frame the disagreement.

the actual disagreement is whether supporting trans rights is a threat to women's rights.

teawamutu · 25/09/2025 13:56

Tandora · 25/09/2025 13:49

Deliberately cruel how?

disagreeing with her that females are human, exist, and deserve our feminist hard won sex-based rights

yeh that's not the disagreement lol.

No, you're right - JKR has also been very clear that she won't forgive those who called for, enabled, facilitated or encouraged the medical abuse of confused children, be it via unthinking affirmation, drugs or surgical mutilation.

Thanks for reminding us. The full picture is important.

Tandora · 25/09/2025 13:57

teawamutu · 25/09/2025 13:56

No, you're right - JKR has also been very clear that she won't forgive those who called for, enabled, facilitated or encouraged the medical abuse of confused children, be it via unthinking affirmation, drugs or surgical mutilation.

Thanks for reminding us. The full picture is important.

Right. She won't forgive people who don't agree with her entirely warped and ignorant mischaracterising of healthcare for trans people.

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 13:59

Tandora · 25/09/2025 13:56

what comment was that?

er no that's how you want to frame the disagreement.

the actual disagreement is whether supporting trans rights is a threat to women's rights.

Read above, it even has a link to a clip.

No, that is how you want to frame it to suit your anti-women agenda.

The actual disagreement is whether the rights of a male in a dress should have more rights to the hard won single sex rights females have. THAT, is the issue.

Mollyollydolly · 25/09/2025 13:59

Translation: Shove your golden bridge up your arse.

Well, hello Emma Watson
ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 14:01

Tandora · 25/09/2025 13:57

Right. She won't forgive people who don't agree with her entirely warped and ignorant mischaracterising of healthcare for trans people.

Sterilising, chemically castrating and physically destroying children's bodies is not 'health' 'care'. It is child abuse. HTH

Tandora · 25/09/2025 14:01

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 13:59

Read above, it even has a link to a clip.

No, that is how you want to frame it to suit your anti-women agenda.

The actual disagreement is whether the rights of a male in a dress should have more rights to the hard won single sex rights females have. THAT, is the issue.

im describing the actual disagreement which is about whether trans rights are a threat to women's rights, not whether women are human and exist and have rights.

Tandora · 25/09/2025 14:03

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 14:01

Sterilising, chemically castrating and physically destroying children's bodies is not 'health' 'care'. It is child abuse. HTH

Sterilising, chemically castrating and physically destroying children's bodies

nothing to do with the subject at hand. just the rantings and ravings of people who know nothing about the things on which they presume to speak.

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 14:04

Tandora · 25/09/2025 14:01

im describing the actual disagreement which is about whether trans rights are a threat to women's rights, not whether women are human and exist and have rights.

No, you are describing the Mens Rights version of it.

Your mob believes the female sex don't exist, that our rights aren't sex-based and that every single thing our foremother feminists (rest their souls) fought for was.... all for nothing.

The issue is whether the female sex exist and have sex-based rights away from the male sex. That, is the issue. No matter how maliciously and malignantly you attempt to reframe it to fit a hateful Mens Rights agenda.

Tandora · 25/09/2025 14:05

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 14:04

No, you are describing the Mens Rights version of it.

Your mob believes the female sex don't exist, that our rights aren't sex-based and that every single thing our foremother feminists (rest their souls) fought for was.... all for nothing.

The issue is whether the female sex exist and have sex-based rights away from the male sex. That, is the issue. No matter how maliciously and malignantly you attempt to reframe it to fit a hateful Mens Rights agenda.

No im describing the actual disagreement which is about whether trans rights are a threat to women's rights.

You think they are. I don't. That's the disagreement.