JKR accused of 'quoting hitler'

[Dominoodles]

Within the context of condemning political violence following the murder of Charlie Kirk, she quoted on X a line from Mein Kampf where Hitler talked about how he utilised political violence for his own gain. This was a clear statement in how allowing for political violence against one's rivals can lead to that in power manipulating things in order to harm others.

Unfortunately, articles are springing up across the internet shaming JKR for quoting or referring to this text at all, with many condemning her for 'nazi' views and accusing her of being far right.

(Personally I love JK, and it is such a shame that every single thing she says is twisted to mean the opposite of what she's actually saying!)

While I agree with you in principle, I wouldn't put CK and JKR in the same category as examples of 'picking a few words out of a larger discussion' .

CK was a proud and outspoken conservative. There are plenty of direct quotes to show what he believed, and he openly and explicitly opposed many of the rights and freedoms other people hold dear. There's no need to pick out a few of his words and twist their meaning - he was very clear in his expression of his opinions.
He was entitled to his opinions, and it is despicable that he was murdered because of them.

However, JKR's brief reference to, and quotation of, Hitler were maliciously taken completely out of context, and it is obvious from everything else she has said, written and done that they do not in any way represent her actual beliefs and opinions.

Selective quoting has been going on forever and is sadly a well known trick used by all political persuasions.

I'm old enough to remember this often still quoted 'gem' from the 1980s:

A comment from a Woman’s Own interview in 1987 is often repeated, but rarely in context: ”There is no such thing as society”. Its relevance was made explicit with the publication of the second volume of Margaret Thatcher’s autobiography in 1993:

“they never quoted the rest. I went on to say: There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first. It’s our duty to look after ourselves and then to look after our neighbour. My meaning, clear at the time but subsequently distorted beyond recognition, was that society was not an abstraction, separate from the men and women who composed it, but a living structure of individuals, families, neighbours and voluntary associations.“

Knowing what fascism actually is is the the new facsism 😂

😂😂😂

So the TRA's think Billionairess JK Rowling has black mould in her home?

She doesn't live in a grotty bedsit above a takeaway. What the fuck is wrong with them all?

I know. Plus she makes sure it's in a selfie.

Frankly, I've no fucking idea how they manage to wield any kind of influence at all. Most people would just cross the street to avoid them

Yes, I was thinking about that podcast when I wrote my post, actually 😃

She's already been exposed to peoples extreme attitudes to her, both ends of the scale.

It's got to be weird. Adored beyond all reason on the one hand, and hated beyond all reason, on the other.

One of the interesting things about Kirk is just how good his trust rating are. In a world where politicians are not trusted this is extraordinary.

But then you look at all those deliberately edit in a way which makes it much worse than the context, it means that the trust is lost in the latter group and maybe even gained for Kirk because he is being honest in his views even if they are unpalatable.

Trust in authority is something that's central to the whole subject and we shouldn't be losing sight of this.

@Datun And sometimes the love and hate has come from that same people! Boggling.

utter piffle

I’m curious about this, Red. Trust ratings from whom? My kids regarded CK as little more than a typical tribal social media influencer. His Oxford Union debate (according to them) saw him pretty robustly and successfully challenged by Oxford students, but his socials are full of “Oxford students DESTROYED” type rhetoric - so what’s the story here? I have been very much under the impression he was an influencer playing to his gallery.

Out of interest, do you also scold the people who minimise the Holocaust by pretending that trans people were equally targeted by Hitler?

They know full well she doesn’t have mould in her house. But lies are all they have so they keep on spouting them.

The little brain plops of the TRA types who come here are extremely amusing. The cleverer and better informed they believe themselves to be, the more daft they always appear.

So you’ll also be condemning all those TRA who compare women saying no to the holocaust? If not, why not?

She quoted Hitler? She’s a smart woman she knew exactly the reaction that would get no matter the actual quote.

(I share her beliefs in general, btw)

There's this thing called 'cry bullying' she excels at…

we need a goebbels quote here, i think.

“It would not be impossible to prove with sufficient repetition and a psychological understanding of the people concerned that a square is in fact a circle. They are mere words, and words can be moulded until they clothe ideas and disguise.”

TRAs and Memes spring to mind.

You support Goebbels?? Discusting 😡😡

tbh i've always thought that the WO quote was a very good summing up of that whole paragraph she said came after.

In that, everyone must look out for themselves, if they're lucky they have family who can help. Because what she should have also added is: and if they fall through all the cracks, the government will provide a basic safety net.

So while, yes, they didn't give the whole quote. They absolutely gave the whole meaning.

i don't see that but yes. I don't have any truck with holocaust minimising.

I'm in Germany. It is very clear what people are up to when they do that. EVERYONE should be calling out holocaust minimisers. Its one reason i'm still on X. I retweet every post by the Auschwitz Memorial.

is it because all their selfies are in horrible, possibly cockroach infested, absolute dumps?

live my life by his words and his words alone, of course.

can someone explain this thread to me. I am lost.
Who is cry bullying?

Sympathy, I have one of those too.

Only the most tangential link to this thread, but Keira Knightly as Dolores Umbridge? Seriously?? 😱

Yep, they never comment on the shit holes posted by genderists but continue to lie about JKR. They really have nothing.