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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Flipping Furries

106 replies

PauliesWalnuts · 15/09/2025 11:19

Went out for the day with a mate to Haworth, and decided we'd do the steam train route to get there. Headed down to the platform at the local station after we'd bought our rover ticket only to be greeted by about twenty furries. The vast majority were in full fur, with a few just in tails and masks.

JFC what a load of selfish morons. They annoyed the entire train, freaked out kids and dogs, ruined other people's photos, and at Oxenhope when the train stops for about 20 mins for photos, snacks etc, they monopolised the cab, in and out, taking photos, and nobody else had a chance. Health and safety was an issue due to these idiots slowly trying to climb in and out of the engine unit in full costume (and struggling to do so). What struck me was how entitled they all acted - very flamboyant, not leaving people alone, striking poses everywhere, very much wanting to be the centre of attention. A few pride and trans flags tied round people's necks, big old blokes with tails poking out their jeans, a lot of them being very touchy-feely, trying to explain themselves and their ethos to other users who weren't really interested - made everyone else feel pretty uncomfortable. I thought they just did this stuff at conventions and comic-cons and stuff?

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MaloryJones · 17/09/2025 10:25

Magpiecomplex · 15/09/2025 20:01

due to numerous members being banned from various forums and chat rooms they tend to migrate from platform to platform.
As indeed they did at the railway, migrating from platform to platform using their rover tickets.

😆

H34th · 17/09/2025 10:31

PauliesWalnuts · 15/09/2025 17:38

Not the best photo and I’ve had to black out a couple of the guys who just had a tail but there are four or five on there.

Looking at this, the easiest thing would be to ban visitors from wearing full face covering masks. It’s intimidating.

(Except maybe be controversial for niqab/ burqa but hopefully they can think up a smart way to work around that).

TempestTost · 17/09/2025 10:45

WeNeedToTalkAboutIT · 17/09/2025 10:13

I'm curious which of the others you think are dodgy? Specifically from a sexual behaviour point of view?

I could agree with you on some comicon outfits and comicon fans, and there's a reason I thought about but didn't include drag in my list. Agree with you about the identity thing.

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It's the ones where there is some kind of sense of revealing their true authentic selves.

Panto are actors, for example. Like any other actor.

Now - drag queens also used to be actors essentially and some still treat it that way. Lots of sex and drugs on the scene but that was everyone not just people doing drag shows. Now there is this weird phenomena where people pretend drag queens are only their true selves when in drag and call them "she" even outside of performing.

Ren faire people - some are more like reenactors but increasingly they seem more like comic-con types.

Silly costumes for a run,I think is just people indulging their sense of humour. It's frivolous with no bigger meaning.

I think pearly kings and queens fall more into the cultural celebration category.

Tam285 · 17/09/2025 10:57

Bananalanacake · 16/09/2025 07:32

Good grief, I never see this sort of thing in north Germany.

Ah maybe you should try Puppy Pride in Cologne! You might even spot the winner of 'Mr Puppy Germany'.

I remember watching a program called 'The secret life of human pups' on channel 4 about 10 years ago. The whole pups thing is basically a gay fetish with lots of leather and domination thrown in, that's all linked to the BDSM community. It's become more played out in public, I remember someone on here saying they'd been in a cafe and a bloke had just walked in with two 'dogs' like flaunting your fetish in public was no big deal.

Apparently furries started much more innocently from sci fi type stuff - but of course it was going to be hijacked into a fetish. It's one thing dressing up for a comic con, but when you're a middle aged man, going to cafes and riding the train with a giant fox head and enormous tail on - that's way beyond enjoying a bit of fancy dress. It's sexual fetish in plain sight

YonderTweek · 17/09/2025 12:15

I think I've just seen my first furry in the flesh. I popped into Aldi this morning and there was a mum shopping with her furry/therian (?) child. The little girl maybe aged 10 was in a full fox costume with the ears and tail, and she seemed happy choosing her cheese strings and whatnot. I thought she may have been going to a fancy dress party or something, but it was around 9.30 in the morning so I doubt there are kids' parties on at that time.

YonderTweek · 17/09/2025 12:15

I think I've just seen my first furry in the flesh. I popped into Aldi this morning and there was a mum shopping with her furry/therian (?) child. The little girl maybe aged 10 was in a full fox costume with the ears and tail, and she seemed happy choosing her cheese strings and whatnot. I thought she may have been going to a fancy dress party or something, but it was around 9.30 in the morning so I doubt there are kids' parties on at that time.

YourLemonTiger · 17/09/2025 13:26

YonderTweek · 17/09/2025 12:15

I think I've just seen my first furry in the flesh. I popped into Aldi this morning and there was a mum shopping with her furry/therian (?) child. The little girl maybe aged 10 was in a full fox costume with the ears and tail, and she seemed happy choosing her cheese strings and whatnot. I thought she may have been going to a fancy dress party or something, but it was around 9.30 in the morning so I doubt there are kids' parties on at that time.

That just sounds like a child dressing up. I think furries are more 'sex people' but dressed as animals.

Gladysknightgottogetaholdofmyself · 17/09/2025 13:57

YourLemonTiger · 17/09/2025 13:26

That just sounds like a child dressing up. I think furries are more 'sex people' but dressed as animals.

I've saw a couple of them in my home city but it's the tail hanging out from under their skirts.
Them being bloke's in skirts.

YourLemonTiger · 17/09/2025 14:10

Gladysknightgottogetaholdofmyself · 17/09/2025 13:57

I've saw a couple of them in my home city but it's the tail hanging out from under their skirts.
Them being bloke's in skirts.

That either means the men had very long tails or very short skirts, neither of which is an appealing thought 😂

Gladysknightgottogetaholdofmyself · 17/09/2025 14:12

YourLemonTiger · 17/09/2025 14:10

That either means the men had very long tails or very short skirts, neither of which is an appealing thought 😂

Haha an appealing thought believe me it wasn't an appealing sight.
And they were mini skirts for maximum attention I would imagine.

lcakethereforeIam · 17/09/2025 14:13

Weren't some furries wearing butt plugs tails at a Pride event?

YourLemonTiger · 17/09/2025 15:02

lcakethereforeIam · 17/09/2025 14:13

Weren't some furries wearing butt plugs tails at a Pride event?

How on earth could you walk around with something pushed up your butt? Surely it would work its way out as you walked 😂😂😂😳

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 17/09/2025 15:04

YourLemonTiger · 17/09/2025 13:26

That just sounds like a child dressing up. I think furries are more 'sex people' but dressed as animals.

It's a sexual fetish that has migrated through poor safeguarding to some children. It's a sexual fetish. It shouldn't be allowed in public. It's the continued blurring of what identity is, who sees protecting, what child like really is and a lot more.

lcakethereforeIam · 17/09/2025 15:07

YourLemonTiger · 17/09/2025 15:02

How on earth could you walk around with something pushed up your butt? Surely it would work its way out as you walked 😂😂😂😳

I know! Either they were on floats with minimal walking or they've got sphincters like iron bands. Admittedly I have minimal knowledge of butt plugs.

Eta and I'm fine with that. Please don't educate me!

Samamfia · 17/09/2025 15:13

Not a furry, but it isn't a sex thing. My work takes me to events which a lot of them go to (I mean renfairs, that sort of thing) and most of them are just dressing up as characters, same as people who are into cosplay and LARP. I meet quite a few who dress as creatures from the Redwall books, if anyone else remembers those from childhood.

Obviously there are some people for whom it's a sex thing, but just wanted to clarify that's not the general point of it. For most it's also not an 'identity', just a hobby in the same way dressing as a wizard for fantasy festivals/LARP games might be a hobby. It's such a pervasive myth I didn't realise until I actually met some of them.

Edit: you'll read the hysterical/salacious stuff in the media, because that makes the story more exciting and makes you click... but it's the same sort of nonsense as "Goths are fetishists" or "heavy metal makes you a Satanist" was 30 years ago.

rosydreams · 17/09/2025 15:18

i have friends who are furries, who are very civil and lovely people .But it seems in recent years .There has been a increase in people joining the community with no manners and using it as a excuse for inappropriate behaviour.

Years ago i had one of these friends say that a person in a yiff suit that's a fur suit for sexual activity was banned from a fur convention for wearing it in public. This sort of behaviour was looked down upon and people just had fun together

Now it seems theres a growing number of people who think being proud of who their are means being inappropriate. When the key to acceptance is just to be you but be respectful

zanahoria · 17/09/2025 15:55

Samamfia · 17/09/2025 15:13

Not a furry, but it isn't a sex thing. My work takes me to events which a lot of them go to (I mean renfairs, that sort of thing) and most of them are just dressing up as characters, same as people who are into cosplay and LARP. I meet quite a few who dress as creatures from the Redwall books, if anyone else remembers those from childhood.

Obviously there are some people for whom it's a sex thing, but just wanted to clarify that's not the general point of it. For most it's also not an 'identity', just a hobby in the same way dressing as a wizard for fantasy festivals/LARP games might be a hobby. It's such a pervasive myth I didn't realise until I actually met some of them.

Edit: you'll read the hysterical/salacious stuff in the media, because that makes the story more exciting and makes you click... but it's the same sort of nonsense as "Goths are fetishists" or "heavy metal makes you a Satanist" was 30 years ago.

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I can honestly never remember much stuff about Goths being fetishists but the clear difference here is that furries are dressing up in a manner that is going to draw children's attention and they are concealing their identity with masks. It is not unreasonable for people to question why they want do that, nor is it unreasonable for people to have concerns when it is impossible to know which ones are fetishists.

YourLemonTiger · 17/09/2025 16:19

lcakethereforeIam · 17/09/2025 15:07

I know! Either they were on floats with minimal walking or they've got sphincters like iron bands. Admittedly I have minimal knowledge of butt plugs.

Eta and I'm fine with that. Please don't educate me!

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Don't worry i wont be adding any details. Please believe me when I say I also have minimal knowledge of butt plugs !!! 😳

BundleBoogie · 17/09/2025 17:27

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 16/09/2025 09:32

Politely, you don't know enough about furries. Let me give you some details:

The fandom has a substantial sexual wing. This is not a moral judgement, just a fact. Survey data of thousands of furries finds a large minority describing sexual attraction as important to their furry activities, with many others acknowledging at least some sexual interest. That is why the scene has its own vocabulary for porn and why so many events have to manage adult content. 

Because organisers know this, big cons put in strict controls to keep adult material away from minors. That is unusual outside spaces where sexual content is expected, and it is telling. For example, Midwest FurFest explicitly instructs dealers to keep adult materials out of sight and reach of anyone under 18, with clear marking of minor badges. You do not need rules like that for a hobby that is purely “cute dress up”.

There have been serious incidents. RainFurrest 2016 was cancelled after the host hotel pulled out, citing years of damage and 2015 reports that included police visits, vandalism and arrests for assault and sexual assault. That is not “someone being a berk in a costume”, it is a pattern of problems that made a major venue walk away.

Another convention in Denver was also cancelled amid controversies that included allegations around organisers and attendees, which underlines that the scene can attract the sort of issues that make venues and cities nervous. 

Public versus private matters. You are right that UK law does not criminalise mere nudity by itself, but it very clearly draws a line at behaviour that causes harassment, alarm or distress, or crosses into indecency. The test in family spaces is not “is it technically illegal”, it is “is it appropriate to impose a sexualised subculture on a captive audience, including children”.

With fursuiting, outsiders cannot tell who is in the non-sexual minority and who is using the costume as part of a sexual persona. Full masking and anonymity are known features for many who do sexual role-play in these costumes. If you would not wear BDSM gear on a commuter train because others have not consented to being part of your scene, the same courtesy should apply here. The combination of anonymity, animal play aesthetics and a documented sexual subculture is exactly why people object in public, child-heavy settings.

No one is saying adults cannot do what they like in private venues, 18-plus hotel floors, or properly stewarded events. But pretending this is just “harmless fancy dress” in front of kids and in public ignores the reality that a significant slice of the fandom is sexual, that cons treat it as such with adult-content controls, and that there have been enough serious incidents to justify caution. Keep it to age-gated spaces and away from captive audiences on trains and in family areas. That is a reasonable boundary..

I sound like a stuck record but just like no males in female spaces, no masked fetishisits in public :)

Exactly. Then there was the furry convention in Scotland where the organisers had to instruct the punters not to leave dirtied adult nappies in the rooms, among other unsavoury practices

MagpiePi · 17/09/2025 17:50

BundleBoogie · 17/09/2025 17:27

Exactly. Then there was the furry convention in Scotland where the organisers had to instruct the punters not to leave dirtied adult nappies in the rooms, among other unsavoury practices

Please stop… 😩

Firealarm1414 · 19/09/2025 02:12

I took my child ice skating last year and it happened that some furries were having a meet up there. It was very weird and uncomfortable and one of them in particular kept filming the rink and lingering on children which gave me the major creeps, but maybe I was being hyper vigilant and it was innocent. Also noticed a major crossover with furries/trans. Call me judgemental but I didn't like it one bit. A public space is not the place for your fetish, especially one with so many kids around. No doubt the younger ones would have innocently asked questions about it, maybe that was the intention.

JustFish · 19/09/2025 06:04

Mollyollydolly · 16/09/2025 22:39

I bet Branwell would have been a furry. Emily would have pulled his tail.

Mr Mybug would know.

I am sure he would have had a theory about Bramwell, who obviously, while he was working 16 hour days writing Wuthering Heights, as his only relaxation and recreation would dress up in a fursuit (a leopard, hence 'the Pard'). This of course could be proven by it absolutely not being mentioned in his letters to his aunt.

But Mr Mybug would of course mention the sexual nature of furry culture.. In fact, he would probably be a natural furry himself and talk of nothing else.

Delphin · 19/09/2025 08:21

Bananalanacake · 16/09/2025 07:32

Good grief, I never see this sort of thing in north Germany.

Hm, I am northern Germany, too, and the local Furries even put out leaflets at the public library, advertising themselves as people who have fun dressing up and playing like dogs. They even had a half-page article with photos last year in the newspaper (subscribers only, otherwise I'd link it). In which they described themselves like a dog training club, where people are taking on the role of the dog and others the role of trainer.
It's slowly becoming normalized, even in the countryside.

Delphin · 19/09/2025 08:48

I found the article archived:
https://archive.ph/99Z7t