Mandelson believed Epstein over victims and should go

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This is a feminist issue. Mandelson has admitted that he chose to believe Epstein, who had at that point been convicted of sex trafficking children, over Epstein’s victims. Surely this choice makes him an unacceptable person to represent the UK? Why on Earth does Starmer think it’s ok to keep Mandelson in his position? I stand with the victims and it is not good enough for Mandelson to sheepishly apologise with the benefit of hindsight.

Equally he is vulnerable to pressure from actors who are not Trump, who know a thing or two about Mandelson and other people who were in the orbit of Epstein.

Epstein had 'friends' all across the political spectrum, and knowledge of them and what went on could as much be used as leverage against Mandelson and the UK, as any leverage Mandelson may have with Trump.

This isn't a one way street

Did he believe Epstein though or did he just not care about what Epstein was doing?

This article details Mandelson’s relationship with Epstein throughout the years.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15086565/dossier-Epstein-Mandelson-desk-scandal-GUY-ADAMS.html

Well they keep saying Mendelson is good with Trump.

Well obviously. Birds of a feather? Best pals with rapists

I agree with @MinnieCauldwell there is something reptilian about him.

Some men give a vibe that they are not to be trusted, give off a sort of sexual slime. PM is one of them.

Probably why trump is now saying he likes him. Like calls to like.
Maybe they are covering for each other in a cesspit of sex pests.

He should certainly go.

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He claims to have believed Epstein. If that is true, it is scandalous because that means he believed the victims were lying.

If he’s lying and never believed Epstein, that is scandalous because he maintained the friendship.

Either way, it is unacceptable

It’s not an enormous stretch to wonder whether Epstein catered to different tastes either, is it?

His creepy notes made me feel sick. Not only must he go, his association ought to be investigated more deeply.

He loved him and wanted him back.
"when Epstein was facing prosecution for soliciting sex from a minor, Mandelson emailed him to say: “Your friends stay with you and love you.”
Another reported message, shortly before Epstein was handed a brief jail term, said: “Fight for early release.”
Source: The Guardian.

So he cared more about Epshite than the young women whose lives he was destroying

‘Yum, yum’ indeed.

If Rayner had to go then Mandelson should have to.
He's been kept there because of his friendly relationship with trump, who's volatile. But that shouldn't mean a person who carries on having a relationship with a convicted paedophile should remain in a job with such importance. He's representing the UK.

Exactly. Am a newish foreigner here and just read up about Peter Mandelsons resignations in the past. The man likes rich men and is vulnerable to them. Asking loans, shady passports, cuddling up to rich sex pests. It sounds like show him a rich man and he will be purring like a cat. Is that the character the uk wants to represent them ever but especially now?

I agree.
Although it is in the national interest to manage trump as best we can there must be a line we cannot cross otherwise we become as mired in filth as he is.

One of the Deputy Leader candidates was on Newsnight about it and the BBC stated that a lot of Labour backbenchers are kicking off about it too. Seems to be a very different response to this case of paedophilia.

That's disgusting. I think we all know what he means.
It's a pity there isn't a petition.

I'm sure kier will be proud of him, will stand by him until he quits, I'm seeing a repeating theme here. A fish rots from the head.

Yep.

Unfortunately this appears to be an accurate summary.

I totally agree.
it would have been a bigger surprise if Keir "I believe that a woman can have a penis" Starmer had sacked him.

I was also agog at the woe is me tone of his defence because he was apparently lied to very convincingly by a convicted sex offender 🙄.

Hope he goes downs squealing, dragging other sinister bastards with him.

I think he will have to go. Yet another error of judgment, and one which disgusts the vast majority of our people. The challenge is that if/when the decision is taken, it will be a clear divergence from the path of the White House. And will be taken as an insult by them. I still think he should go, but it won’t be an easy decision and will likely damage UK/US relations.

KS has no choice but to get rid. Else he's a massive hypocrite, getting tough on grooming gangs here whilst supporting a man who professes his love for a child sex trafficker.
Wonder what he'll choose to do.

If it follows the same pattern of his previous sackings then he'll just slither away quietly and then pop up again in twenty years like a fucking machiavellian Jack in the box.

Yes, he should go. Not least of which is if he doesn’t, it will mean that working class women are sacked when posh men aren’t. But it is a bugger, because he is just the sort of man Trump is impressed by.

PM’s “yum yum” was about houses and money. He has shown before that they are his favorite things

I think it's more likely the latter.

I think he has to go for the same reason that Prince Andrew's continued relationship with Epstein disqualified him from representing Britain, regardless of what happened between him and Virginia Giuffre.

The striking thing is that all these men knew what Epstein was like. They just couldn't make the leap to seeing the girls as human.