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Charabanc · 05/09/2025 11:00

TheignT · 05/09/2025 10:55

So she's condemned for disclosing too much information and for not disclosing enough.

What a vicious thread this is.

If she didn't want her children discussed on social media, then maybe she shouldn't have discussed them on social media.

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CautiousLurker01 · 05/09/2025 11:01

TheignT · 05/09/2025 10:55

So she's condemned for disclosing too much information and for not disclosing enough.

What a vicious thread this is.

Where have I condemned her?

My kids are ASD and ADHD. We’re very clear when highlighting their neurodivergence what that means. To be anything else is actually not very helpful is it? It’s like saying ‘several of my children are musical’. What does that mean? They like music? They play an instrument? They play several instruments? They play to an exceptional standard? It’s meaninglessly (and intentionally) vague.

And if she doesn’t want to discuss their private issues… she shouldn’t raise them in a media interview. She can’t have it both ways either. Pointing that out is not ‘spiteful’ or ‘vicious’.

ETA… I wasn’t being viscous either LOL

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 05/09/2025 11:04

TheignT · 05/09/2025 10:55

So she's condemned for disclosing too much information and for not disclosing enough.

What a vicious thread this is.

So report it then.

CagneyNYPD1 · 05/09/2025 11:04

Presuming David was in his 40s when they married and had dc, that would boost the odds of having ND children. Mix in the possibility that both parents are also ND and yep, 5 kids later it would be no surprise that more than 1 dc are ND.

I know families where both parents have ADHD and so do the dc. Fully diagnosed, medicated etc etc.

I would wager that if both the Tennants are ND and with David being an older dad, it would have been really surprising if none of their dc were ND.

I think it is wrong to discuss your dc’s private information unless you are doing it in such a way as to raise awareness of a specific issue.

SouthWamses · 05/09/2025 11:06

ManteesRock · 05/09/2025 10:48

Funny that cause I knew my sexuality and identity younger than 9!
And if I a child at 9 can't know they're Gay or gender non confirmative then surely they can't know they're straight or gender confirmative?

In order to understand yourself as ‘gender conforming’ or not you have to have been taught girls/boys must behave in certain ways and only like certain things. Why would you do that to your child?

TheignT · 05/09/2025 11:06

Charabanc · 05/09/2025 11:00

If she didn't want her children discussed on social media, then maybe she shouldn't have discussed them on social media.

Not relevant to what I said. Read through the thread, she's being coy, not specifying what conditions they have but at the same time saying too much. People really shouldn't try to have it both ways either she shouldn't mention it or give all the details for people to pull apart. Or maybe, just maybe, like lots of people on here she wants to share a bit but not go into every detail.

Let's be totally honest and say some people have a very strong dislike of her and her husband and they'd stick the knife in no matter what.

TheignT · 05/09/2025 11:08

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 05/09/2025 11:04

So report it then.

Amazing as it might seem to you I don't have to do what you demand. You seem to feel you have power that you really don't.

Charabanc · 05/09/2025 11:08

TheignT · 05/09/2025 11:06

Not relevant to what I said. Read through the thread, she's being coy, not specifying what conditions they have but at the same time saying too much. People really shouldn't try to have it both ways either she shouldn't mention it or give all the details for people to pull apart. Or maybe, just maybe, like lots of people on here she wants to share a bit but not go into every detail.

Let's be totally honest and say some people have a very strong dislike of her and her husband and they'd stick the knife in no matter what.

Yes, I dislike them for what they support. If you don't like the thread, then off you pop.

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Rednorth · 05/09/2025 11:10

TheignT · 05/09/2025 10:55

So she's condemned for disclosing too much information and for not disclosing enough.

What a vicious thread this is.

They chose to disclose information publically... which whether you agree or not, opens them up to criticism.

Charabanc · 05/09/2025 11:10

ManteesRock · 05/09/2025 10:48

Funny that cause I knew my sexuality and identity younger than 9!
And if I a child at 9 can't know they're Gay or gender non confirmative then surely they can't know they're straight or gender confirmative?

And at age nine, should a child be allowed to chemically castrate themselves?

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TheignT · 05/09/2025 11:10

CautiousLurker01 · 05/09/2025 11:01

Where have I condemned her?

My kids are ASD and ADHD. We’re very clear when highlighting their neurodivergence what that means. To be anything else is actually not very helpful is it? It’s like saying ‘several of my children are musical’. What does that mean? They like music? They play an instrument? They play several instruments? They play to an exceptional standard? It’s meaninglessly (and intentionally) vague.

And if she doesn’t want to discuss their private issues… she shouldn’t raise them in a media interview. She can’t have it both ways either. Pointing that out is not ‘spiteful’ or ‘vicious’.

ETA… I wasn’t being viscous either LOL

Edited

I said the thread was vicious and it is

She doesn't have to be helpful if that's your choice great but it doesn't have to be everyone's choice.

beAsensible1 · 05/09/2025 11:11

TheignT · 05/09/2025 10:55

So she's condemned for disclosing too much information and for not disclosing enough.

What a vicious thread this is.

right.

CautiousLurker01 · 05/09/2025 11:11

Calling someone coy (which you yourself do) is not ‘sticking the knife in’.

Such a violent and aggressive turn of phrase. The type of phrase that certain Irish writers get arrested at airports for using whilst other people seem to be able to use them without any form of censure…

TheignT · 05/09/2025 11:12

Charabanc · 05/09/2025 11:08

Yes, I dislike them for what they support. If you don't like the thread, then off you pop.

Not up to you. Open forum which you don't control.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 05/09/2025 11:13

ShitYoureAMess · 05/09/2025 09:34

I prefer to let posts stand so others can see them and call them out, like I have. Nothing will change if people don’t see theses posts challenged and called wrong and prejudiced. I’m not the only one picking up on certain posts about labels and calling ND nonsense. If you think they’re ok, take a look at yourself.

Given that you are being very vague about which posts do offend you, I’m hardly in a position to judge am I? Just because you’re offended by something doesn’t mean it’s offensive.

Ilovesshopping · 05/09/2025 11:13

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CatHairEveryWhereNow · 05/09/2025 11:13

If asd is genetic, and it seems to be one of the causes, then certainly you can have one asd child after another. If you are asd yourself, chances are you won't notice. Then they go to school, where what just seemed to be your family idiosyncrasies get picked up as autism or adhd....

This.

We were told in DD1 asd assement that a lot of what we thought or is normal and is our wider family isn't in general population. We also often procorate with families who also turn out to have ND conditions in them and depsite some MN think generally we do well acadmcially and generally okay to good in life.

DD1 was pushed towards ASD by SEN and teachers and GPs - I never felt it fit but ASD assesor said many professionals don't know what conditions actually are let alone lay people. They then suggested dyslexia dyspraxia and inattentive adhd and yet more time later that was a yes to those after assesmnet processes

I think it's likely they've had cash for assesmenets - (we've had decades of delays and push back via NHS and cash for private a huge insurmountable stubling block for us ) but co-morbidity is so common - so ND is likely short hand for a range of conditions.

I do agree with PP though I've been more worried about trans pushing because my kids are ND - DD1 especially was at school in wales at it's height and it was hard to push back though depsite her ND trans friends she didn't go down that route.

TheignT · 05/09/2025 11:14

CautiousLurker01 · 05/09/2025 11:11

Calling someone coy (which you yourself do) is not ‘sticking the knife in’.

Such a violent and aggressive turn of phrase. The type of phrase that certain Irish writers get arrested at airports for using whilst other people seem to be able to use them without any form of censure…

Edited

I wasn't calling her coy I was referring to quotes on the thread

I wasn't suggesting anyone should do anything violent in word or deed, I was condemning it.

maudelovesharold · 05/09/2025 11:15

I’m no particular fan of the Tennants, and agree with a lot of the comments about the dubious parenting around placing their kids in the spotlight, but I feel like I’m missing a puzzle piece (story of my life!), as they seem to be attracting a lot of extreme vitriol on the thread, and I don’t know why!

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 05/09/2025 11:15

TheignT · 05/09/2025 11:12

Not up to you. Open forum which you don't control.

And strangely enough, neither do you.

SecretNameforMN · 05/09/2025 11:15

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TheignT · 05/09/2025 11:16

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 05/09/2025 11:15

And strangely enough, neither do you.

I didn't suggest anyone should leave

TheignT · 05/09/2025 11:17

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Ignorance.

TheignT · 05/09/2025 11:18

maudelovesharold · 05/09/2025 11:15

I’m no particular fan of the Tennants, and agree with a lot of the comments about the dubious parenting around placing their kids in the spotlight, but I feel like I’m missing a puzzle piece (story of my life!), as they seem to be attracting a lot of extreme vitriol on the thread, and I don’t know why!

They always do. They seem to be really hated so anything and everything they say or do is condemned.

CautiousLurker01 · 05/09/2025 11:19

TheignT · 05/09/2025 11:14

I wasn't calling her coy I was referring to quotes on the thread

I wasn't suggesting anyone should do anything violent in word or deed, I was condemning it.

At your post 11:06 to explicitly say ‘she is being coy’.

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