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Graham Linehan arrested on arrival at Heathrow Part 2

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IDareSay · 03/09/2025 14:04

First thread here

Started thread 2 as this seems destined to run for some time...

I just got arrested again

I arrived back in London to discover the UK is still a police state run by trans activists

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/i-just-got-arrested-again

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RedToothBrush · 03/09/2025 19:35

ErrolTheDragon · 03/09/2025 19:29

From what I could hear on glinners recording, the process was that he’d been put on some sort of ‘watch list’ database triggering him being detained at the airport. But then - while still at the airport - he was given the specific reason for his arrest ie the ridiculous ‘sexual orientation’ thing. So someone, at some point, had looked at those tweets and decided they constituted an arrestable offence.

The mere existance of watch list with gender criticals people on it raises some questions given the Supreme Court ruling...

ErrolTheDragon · 03/09/2025 19:36

chrith · 03/09/2025 19:31

the July 7th bombers flew under the radar but Graham Linehan is on a watch list? Make it make sense.

You can’t make sense out of stupidity.
Someone made a stupid decision. Who and exactly why, that might be interesting to know.

Charabanc · 03/09/2025 19:36

singthing · 03/09/2025 19:35

The effect in full swing!

Hungry Chef GIF by Rosanna Pansino

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Cailleach1 · 03/09/2025 19:37

LlynTegid · 03/09/2025 19:14

I don't agree with Graham Linehan advocating violence as part of the solution. However, the Metropolitan Police response and five police being sent to arrest him is wholly unreasonable. The Metropolitan Police is a failed organisation and has been probably for years, along with South Yorkshire Police who ignored men who abused teenage women and girls, and lied profusely over Orgreave and Hillsborough.

Well, sometimes if a woman or girl doesn’t fight back, they will end up being the victims of these men. Didn’t queen Camilla say she fielded off a male who was up to no good by hitting him in the genitals with her shoe. Avoided being potentially sexually assaulted by the man, I presume. I can’t say I support such a man over and above his intended victim.

I’m not sure if I would want to be the victim of a man who is in a space where there is a chance of him being potentially searching for a bit of voyeurism or flashing himself. Maybe even worse sexual assaults. At a minimum, maybe he’d be just happy creeping women out. Men know they are a threatening and intimidating presence when they lurk in such spaces. There is absolutely no good reason for a man to be inserting himself in female single sex spaces. Irrespective of what guff he spins, or who supports him violating women’s boundaries. Mind you, I’d probably get out pronto, if I could. So said chappie would have the female and male spaces to preen around in if he wishes. The police seem to be ok with men doing all that to women. It is truly a time for creeps, who appear to have the full support of the police forces.

That is just my personal opinion about it all.

ErrolTheDragon · 03/09/2025 19:38

RedToothBrush · 03/09/2025 19:35

The mere existance of watch list with gender criticals people on it raises some questions given the Supreme Court ruling...

I’m not sure what the SC ruling has to do with it specifically?

ThatCyanCat · 03/09/2025 19:40

Cailleach1 · 03/09/2025 19:37

Well, sometimes if a woman or girl doesn’t fight back, they will end up being the victims of these men. Didn’t queen Camilla say she fielded off a male who was up to no good by hitting him in the genitals with her shoe. Avoided being potentially sexually assaulted by the man, I presume. I can’t say I support such a man over and above his intended victim.

I’m not sure if I would want to be the victim of a man who is in a space where there is a chance of him being potentially searching for a bit of voyeurism or flashing himself. Maybe even worse sexual assaults. At a minimum, maybe he’d be just happy creeping women out. Men know they are a threatening and intimidating presence when they lurk in such spaces. There is absolutely no good reason for a man to be inserting himself in female single sex spaces. Irrespective of what guff he spins, or who supports him violating women’s boundaries. Mind you, I’d probably get out pronto, if I could. So said chappie would have the female and male spaces to preen around in if he wishes. The police seem to be ok with men doing all that to women. It is truly a time for creeps, who appear to have the full support of the police forces.

That is just my personal opinion about it all.

From what they themselves have said online, they get off on knowing they shouldn't be there, how they think it validates them as women, how it defies the wishes of women who do not consent and, quite often, the sound of women urinating. Several of them say they record the sound and root through the sanitary bins. In some cases, at offices, they deliberately go in to follow women with whom they have a particular fixation.

Charabanc · 03/09/2025 19:40

Also there has been a movement for TRAs to protect the poor fragrant woman man accusing Glinner tomorrow, by shielding him when he enters court in the morning, and when he leaves in the afternoon. Well, Lynsay Watson has seen to that effort, now that every national media outlet will be there.

Sad times.

notimagain · 03/09/2025 19:40

ErrolTheDragon · 03/09/2025 19:33

Yes, yes.
The firearms were standard kit for them. We know.
but five armed officers to arrest one bloke who had come to the U.K. specifically to attend a court case? He was hardly going to be a flight risk.

Agree with you on the flight risk but If you watch police teams around and about at places like Heathrow they often move and work in teams of four or five (there was an image upthread or in the earlier thread showing exactly that)...

I suspect once a decision was made by???? to do the arrest at the aircraft it was simply a case of a team being sent to do the deed, rather than it being a case of "we'd better send five in case GL.does a runner".

ThatCyanCat · 03/09/2025 19:41

Charabanc · 03/09/2025 19:40

Also there has been a movement for TRAs to protect the poor fragrant woman man accusing Glinner tomorrow, by shielding him when he enters court in the morning, and when he leaves in the afternoon. Well, Lynsay Watson has seen to that effort, now that every national media outlet will be there.

Sad times.

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Shielding him from what? A Down With This Sort Of Thing sign? A well landed punchline?

ArabellaScott · 03/09/2025 19:41

RedToothBrush · 03/09/2025 19:35

The mere existance of watch list with gender criticals people on it raises some questions given the Supreme Court ruling...

Yes. What is this watch list/database? Who holds it? Who is on it, and on what grounds?

Charabanc · 03/09/2025 19:43

ThatCyanCat · 03/09/2025 19:41

Shielding him from what? A Down With This Sort Of Thing sign? A well landed punchline?

Literally shielding him. So people can't see him. Protecting him from reality.

singthing · 03/09/2025 19:43

ArabellaScott · 03/09/2025 19:41

Yes. What is this watch list/database? Who holds it? Who is on it, and on what grounds?

Given the state of the Police right now, I wouldn't be surprised if it was that Shinigami Eyes thing.

whenimnotcleaningwindows · 03/09/2025 19:45

I can't suspend belief that this is linked to Vance pushing his "UK has no freedom of speech" speech. I strongly suspect macho opportunists in armed divisions of Met and Aviation saw their cue to make a spectacle out of Starmer's wishy-washy approach to the whole issue and recent forces having to police pensioners holding placards. The timing is just too good for them not to do it for their own agenda IMO.

Datun · 03/09/2025 19:49

ThatCyanCat · 03/09/2025 19:40

From what they themselves have said online, they get off on knowing they shouldn't be there, how they think it validates them as women, how it defies the wishes of women who do not consent and, quite often, the sound of women urinating. Several of them say they record the sound and root through the sanitary bins. In some cases, at offices, they deliberately go in to follow women with whom they have a particular fixation.

Quite.

I think it's time the press picked all this up.

I'd like to see all the pictures in the papers of these men in women's toilets, giving the finger, crowing that they are destroying women's rights, gleefully claiming no one can stop them.

In conjunction with some of the bloody threats.

I wish JKR would publish some of the threats she's had. The general public, and the authorities don't seem to realise exactly how fricking one-sided this all is. And how these men are hellbent on intimidating women. And are perfectly happy to broadcast it so women all know.

ArabellaScott · 03/09/2025 19:53

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c044vevjyd7o

'Glenn Mullen, 31, uploaded audio clips in Gaelic threatening to kill Ms Rowling "with a big hammer" and said he was "going to see Rosie Duffield at the bar with a big gun", Westminster Magistrates' Court heard.
Mullen, of Clyde Road, Manchester, had been publicly identified as the poster of the audio clips by an online magazine shortly after they were posted on the X social media website in January 2023, the court was told.
He admitted two charges of sending an article conveying threatening messages at an earlier hearing and was handed two suspended sentences.'
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'Mullen was also ordered to pay £85 in costs and a £154 victim surcharge.'

JK Rowling

Internet troll threatened to kill JK Rowling and MP

Glenn Mullen posted online death threats to the Harry Potter author and former MP Rosie Duffield.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c044vevjyd7o

AFishDoesntKnow · 03/09/2025 19:56

R.e. police incompetence sorry I've got a metaphorical axe to grind*) but it also occured to me that the police probably got the complaint months ago and failed to contact Graham. So they left this supposedly violent tweet up there to cause harm.

*I was assaulted on TFL with CCTV, reported next day. By the time they got round to investigating it CCTV had been deleted. Police Officer was apologetic, I was LMAO.

IwantToRetire · 03/09/2025 19:57

C4 news has now condescended to talk of Glinner's arrest.

But them have framed it that his case is the same as Lucy Connolly's

Charabanc · 03/09/2025 19:58

whenimnotcleaningwindows · 03/09/2025 19:45

I can't suspend belief that this is linked to Vance pushing his "UK has no freedom of speech" speech. I strongly suspect macho opportunists in armed divisions of Met and Aviation saw their cue to make a spectacle out of Starmer's wishy-washy approach to the whole issue and recent forces having to police pensioners holding placards. The timing is just too good for them not to do it for their own agenda IMO.

This makes literally no sense.

An arrest alert was put out on Glinner a while back. He hasn't been back in the UK since then. Yesterday it activated.

notimagain · 03/09/2025 20:02

ArabellaScott · 03/09/2025 19:41

Yes. What is this watch list/database? Who holds it? Who is on it, and on what grounds?

Reasons can vary but people do realise (don't they?) that if they are of sufficient interest to the police/authorities (e.g. warrant out for arrest.in relation to whatever ) they may end up ringing bells with the authorities when booking with an airline and/or entering passport details on APIS.

GL is not the first person to have been arrested at an aircraft door on arrival in the UK, or elsewhere in the world for that matter,.though in his case and given the circumstances of his visit arrest at the door seems highly excessive.

RedToothBrush · 03/09/2025 20:02

ErrolTheDragon · 03/09/2025 19:38

I’m not sure what the SC ruling has to do with it specifically?

It says that for the purposes of the equality act that transwomen are males. This has many implications and knock on points.

Given the tweet was about males in single sex facilities, this is kinda relevant.

Why are people being arrested for a 'hate' when the tweet is about women being sexually assaulted by males and protecting themselves (with the qualification of only when other legal challenges have failed)?!

You might be able to say it's encouraging violence, but then you have to arrest every single male who suggests violence against women for any reason at all.

Males should not be in the single sex female facilities. We have plenty of males threatening to do this and actually doing this and posting pictures on social media which constitutes sexual harassment. It's not a theoretical issue of 'hate' it's a real life issue of male harassment of women. So why on earth are the Met prattling on about this being a hate crime and having no choice but to intervene? It's bollocks. They just haven't actually considered the SC ruling in this context.

The hate element becomes null and void the second a male steps foot in a female single sex space - the trans bit isnt a protection because in legal terms they effectively change from being 'legal female' (if they have that status) to being male! This is a massive point of Lineham's tweet!!! We treat all males equality in line with the equality act and we treat females equally too - and they have equal rights to safety, privacy and dignity.

It might be encouraging assault but there's no aggravated factor of 'hate' for doing so if it's just female on male (or vice versa). So how can it be aggravated for hate?!

Why is there a 'watch list' for stating that males who harass women in toilets are potentially dangerous because they are literally breaking the law and are sexually harassing just by bloody well being there?!

Are they going to start rounding up all the incels who post shite about women when they arrive at Heathrow? No, if not why not?

Is Glinner an extremist? Let's have this conversation out.

Is he harassing males who are threatening to sexually harass women or is he highlighting theres a problem with males sexually harassing women and trying to hold to account?

You rapidly get into a debate about public interest (and within that, you often get a broader scope to say things if you can demonstrate relevance to your political argument).

Glinners political argument has always been that men retain male pattern behaviour and that we should recognise male pattern behaviour and treat all males equally regardless of how they identify.

Good luck with this in court is all I can say to that.

If there are other harassment charges, then again prove it's harassment rather than holding people who are posting publicly online trying to influence others, if they are also posting other shit which might reveal nefarious motivations. (See above point about public interest).

This is going to rapidly descend into an utter mess and frankly anyone with half a brain can see the train crash incoming on this.

ErrolTheDragon · 03/09/2025 20:02

ArabellaScott · 03/09/2025 19:53

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c044vevjyd7o

'Glenn Mullen, 31, uploaded audio clips in Gaelic threatening to kill Ms Rowling "with a big hammer" and said he was "going to see Rosie Duffield at the bar with a big gun", Westminster Magistrates' Court heard.
Mullen, of Clyde Road, Manchester, had been publicly identified as the poster of the audio clips by an online magazine shortly after they were posted on the X social media website in January 2023, the court was told.
He admitted two charges of sending an article conveying threatening messages at an earlier hearing and was handed two suspended sentences.'
..
'Mullen was also ordered to pay £85 in costs and a £154 victim surcharge.'

i suppose a slap on the wrists is the best we could hope for.

RedToothBrush · 03/09/2025 20:14

Btw unless the Met are seriously suggesting that Queen Camilla should also be arrested for similar public comments, then perhaps they should actually engage their brain cells.

whenimnotcleaningwindows · 03/09/2025 20:23

Charabanc · 03/09/2025 19:58

This makes literally no sense.

An arrest alert was put out on Glinner a while back. He hasn't been back in the UK since then. Yesterday it activated.

Well they've played into Vance's hands and shown up Starmer once again using a sledgehammer to crack a nut because they're too stupid not to see it was going to look very bad and disproportionate, especially with a public figure.

RedToothBrush · 03/09/2025 20:29

JKRowling being 'hateful' again.

I hope the LDs (who have notably so far not made any kind of statement) have one to offer soon.

Graham Linehan arrested on arrival at Heathrow Part 2
RedToothBrush · 03/09/2025 20:30

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