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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JKR Didn’t Have an Opinion. She Poisoned the Well

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CSIRCP · 28/08/2025 14:32

This post will likely be a little too long for most, but if you can spare the time and have a cuppa handy let's sit down and have a chat, shall we?

Firstly, let’s stop calling this a debate. It’s not. This isn’t two sets of ideas clashing. This is one woman’s fear and confusion being weaponized against an entire community.

What J.K. Rowling has done is not just share an opinion. She’s poisoned the well. And that poison is spreading through politics, education, the media, and even the courts.

At the beginning, it might have looked like a tweet. Then a blog. But what she wrote in that essay was revealing: “If I’d been born thirty years later, I too might have tried to transition. The allure of escaping womanhood would have been huge.”
That’s not neutral. That’s projection. It was a confession, repackaged as concern. She projected her own dysphoria and personal battles onto the entire trans community and used it as the foundation for a movement built on suspicion and fear.

She said she cared about women’s rights. Then aligned herself with those who believe all trans women are predators.
She liked racist and Islamophobic tweets. She repeated antisemitic tropes. She cast activists as violent men in dresses. She accused anyone who challenged her of misogyny while branding herself the face of feminism.
All the while she built up a devoted audience that now includes some of the most extreme anti-trans voices in Britain and beyond.

This “gender critical” movement is not about safety, and it’s certainly not about truth. It’s about control.
Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull (Posie Parker), one of Rowling’s ideological allies, has welcomed neo-Nazis to her rallies. Actual Nazis. The kind of people Rowling once wrote villains about.
In one case, people connected to this movement were linked to the satanic terror group 764 — a group that has influenced teen suicides and violent attacks in UK schools. Let that sink in. This is who she’s empowering.

She didn’t just turn away when that started. She doubled down. She gave this movement a gloss of legitimacy. She used her fame to funnel people toward disinformation, fear, and cruelty—and dressed it all up as feminism. But it isn’t feminism when it excludes, vilifies, and harms other women. Especially trans women. Especially intersex people. Especially anyone who doesn’t fit into the narrow fantasy of who is acceptable.

Rowling’s language now echoes in government documents. Her phrases like “gender ideology” have been lifted from far right sources, including the Vatican and authoritarian regimes, and mainstreamed into British law. Her influence helped set the stage for the UK Supreme Court to redefine the word “woman” based on sex assigned at birth, stripping rights from trans and intersex people under the Equality Act. That’s what happens when the well is poisoned. People stop thinking. They start reacting.

Meanwhile, her cult chant her slogans as though they are scientific fact. But science says otherwise. Peer-reviewed studies show that trans people’s brain structures do not align with their sex assigned at birth. They show that gender identity forms in the womb, shaped by hormones and biology not ideology. Large-scale DNA studies have found gene variants linked to gender incongruence. And intersex people exist. That is biological fact. Not one of these truths can be erased by Rowling’s fiction.

What makes this so dangerous is how calm it all sounds. Rowling doesn’t scream. She whispers. She calls it “concern.” She says she’s “just asking questions.”
But it’s never neutral to question someone’s right to exist. It’s not a debate when one side is simply trying to live and the other is trying to strip away their legal recognition and healthcare.

This isn’t just a disagreement. This is a slow campaign of erasure, led by someone with a global platform and millions in the bank.

She’s not some deluded soul from MN; she’s a multi-millionaire author whose words shape global policy. She’s not being silenced. She’s being echoed by judges, by pundits, by politicians trying to climb the ladder by stepping on the backs of trans, non-binary, and intersex people.

And let’s not pretend it stops there. Her influence has allowed people to feel safe expressing open homophobia, biphobia, and hatred toward anyone who challenges gender norms. Some of the same people aligned with her have mocked survivors, denied racism, and claimed slavery was “fine” if it was “kind.”
This is not a group grounded in empathy. It’s a movement that thrives on exclusion and resentment. Some of them now openly identify as neo Nazis. That’s where we are.

So next time someone says “she’s just worried” or “she’s not anti-trans” or “can’t we just disagree,” consider these words. Show them what poison looks like. Not just hateful speech but the deliberate seeding of doubt, division, and cruelty, all wrapped in a soft voice and a smug smile. J.K. Rowling didn’t protect anyone. She infected people. And when she’s gone, her legacy won’t be literature it will be the damage she left behind.

You don’t need to cancel her. You just need to see her clearly.
And if you blindly follow Rowling and her ideas then you need to reflect on what you’re really endorsing.

Because ignorance is not an excuse. Not anymore.

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ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 28/08/2025 23:57

SnugPeach · 28/08/2025 23:51

Transition is the only thing that’s helped my dysphoria. Not sure what more I can say

So I guess transition means dressing in “women’s” clothing, maybe changing your name and style?

That’s fine. Go for it. Be yourself! But it doesn’t make you a woman. It just makes you a man who breaks gender stereotypes. That’s a good thing. Why does transitions have to mean pretending you’re a woman and expecting the world to pretend with you? And why is your dysphoria a problem women should solve?

BlakeCarrington · 28/08/2025 23:57

All this “I don’t know what more I can say to you” is getting old. Why don’t you address the points being raised?

Boiledbeetle · 28/08/2025 23:57

SnugPeach · 28/08/2025 23:41

Firstly ok thank you for acknowledging that I do experience distress.

Secondly ya I’m very much aware of the hard won rights women have gotten which has taken many years of fighting against an oppressive system that places men on top. Where women are still treated as lesser than men in all aspects of life. Healthcare, Safety, Law. Men are vastly more protected and the system works in a way to benefit them and protect them and their position. So yes I do understand the many fears many of you here have despite what you may think of me.

All I can say is this. I spent years and years, policing myself and my own feelings out of the fear of being seen as what some of you see me as now, a creepy man who wants to infiltrate some women’s space. I did that because I thought it was right. It bought me nothing but sadness, misery and contempt for my own existence. I don’t want to take or redefine anything away from you. I just want to be seen for who I am and included in that.

But you are a man infiltrating women's single sex spaces. In order to relieve your sadness you've decided to cause distress and anguish to many many women.

We do see you for who you are, a man going into places he shouldn't be going. Stop doing that.

Haulage · 28/08/2025 23:57

murasaki · 28/08/2025 23:43

But by being asking to be included , or more in your case telling us that you will invade anyway, you are taking away our agency and redefining words. Do you not see that?

The being included part caught my eye too.

murasaki · 28/08/2025 23:58

They're still not female breasts though, whichever way you bought them. Illegal drugs or fast food, they are still attached to a male torso, won't sit on a rib cage as female breasts do as yours is male and a different shape, and are basically not real breasts that can never do what they are meant to. As you are a man.

RedToothBrush · 28/08/2025 23:58

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 28/08/2025 23:42

How do you have D cup breasts if you haven’t had plastic surgery?

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Socks.

TrainedByCats · 28/08/2025 23:59

Why is it always about breasts for these men

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 28/08/2025 23:59

murasaki · 28/08/2025 23:53

A better therapist who can get to the root of your issues rather than an affirming one would be a good move.

I agree with this.
@SnugPeach it sounds like you’ve had a horrific time and of course you’re confused and, like many abuse victims, full of self loathing especially about your body (trust me, I know). It’s awful. But you need to surround yourself with people who can support you being you as the man you are, not telling you that because you’re a bit different to the next man, that you must be a woman.

SionnachRuadh · 29/08/2025 00:00

murasaki · 28/08/2025 23:53

A better therapist who can get to the root of your issues rather than an affirming one would be a good move.

In all seriousness, I second this.

Think of it as being like your autism. You can't transition from being autistic to not being autistic. Autistic is just how you're wired. But you can find strategies to manage it and help you navigate the world.

You can never not be a man. You can be a feminine man, and there's nothing wrong or shameful about that.

I have trans friends with dysphoria who have gone the whole way with hormones and surgery, and I can understand that they felt they needed to do it to be comfortable in their own skin, but I wish they'd found a way to manage their dysphoria without long term compromising their health.

Because as much as they want to be women, and as much as I feel for my friends, the cold hard fact is they'll never be anything other than modified men.

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 29/08/2025 00:00

Breast tissue can grow in men, sometimes

Not into double Ds

Otherwise women, who already have oodles of breast tissue, wouldn’t get boob jobs

SnugPeach · 29/08/2025 00:01

Boiledbeetle · 28/08/2025 23:52

But what do you think transitioning will achieve, as by your previous posts it sounds like you'll be starting as a man and ending as a man, just with a larger chest area and no penis. Why do you think this is actually going to make your life better? As you still won't be a woman.

Look I already feel 10x better than I did before transition. Even if apparently everybody is just being nice to me or whatever thing you will say to me. On the occasions I go outside people treat me as me. They call me by feminine terms and pronouns. I don’t ask them to do that. I’m just trying to live my life as me.

SnugPeach · 29/08/2025 00:02

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 29/08/2025 00:00

Breast tissue can grow in men, sometimes

Not into double Ds

Otherwise women, who already have oodles of breast tissue, wouldn’t get boob jobs

It’s all based on genetics. Some people only grow A or B cups, some people grow bigger. All breasts are different, all bodies are different.

murasaki · 29/08/2025 00:02

SnugPeach · 29/08/2025 00:01

Look I already feel 10x better than I did before transition. Even if apparently everybody is just being nice to me or whatever thing you will say to me. On the occasions I go outside people treat me as me. They call me by feminine terms and pronouns. I don’t ask them to do that. I’m just trying to live my life as me.

Why are they using pronouns when you are there? That's not normal conversation. I bet they use the correct ones when you aren't there.

murasaki · 29/08/2025 00:03

SnugPeach · 29/08/2025 00:02

It’s all based on genetics. Some people only grow A or B cups, some people grow bigger. All breasts are different, all bodies are different.

And yours is male, and you need to come to terms with that. Now it's male with moobs.

Myfluffyblanket · 29/08/2025 00:03

SnugPeach · 28/08/2025 23:46

Ok serious question what you have me do instead? What does you world with Trans people look like?

Accept that you are a man, an adult male human being. You may not like it but it is a truth with which you must live.
Then, speak with men; groups of men from all sorts of backgrounds and cultures. Tell these men that you are broadening the bandwidth of manhood and you choose to dress in women's clothing even though we all know you're a man. Tell them also that women and girls are different from men and boys and need specific safe single sex spaces because of the biological differences between women and men.
Oh, and tell them to stop raping, hitting and murdering us. It's awful and makes men look really bad.
If you do these things and you have a proveable positive result we will be glad.

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 29/08/2025 00:05

Also @SnugPeach bottom surgery is very dangerous and the success rate isn’t terribly high, and it involves lifelong side effects. It won’t make you a woman. Leave your bottom half alone, for your sake.

On that note I think you’ll find we gender critical women do not, contrary to popular opinion, hate trans people. We identify with the dysphoria side as growing up a girl - growing boobs, periods, being leered at by men, having to fight to be seen as more than just a sex symbol at a scarily young age - is a real cage for so many of us. We want you and other trans people to be in a place where you accept yourself and your sex. Where you see you can do all the things you associate with “being a woman”, without actually being a woman (because you can never be a woman)

Id urge you to really take a hard look at what you think makes you a woman, and ask yourself this: does being male restrict me from doing that “womanly” thing?

Unless the answer is biological (give birth, have periods etc) the answer is no.

SnugPeach · 29/08/2025 00:05

SionnachRuadh · 29/08/2025 00:00

In all seriousness, I second this.

Think of it as being like your autism. You can't transition from being autistic to not being autistic. Autistic is just how you're wired. But you can find strategies to manage it and help you navigate the world.

You can never not be a man. You can be a feminine man, and there's nothing wrong or shameful about that.

I have trans friends with dysphoria who have gone the whole way with hormones and surgery, and I can understand that they felt they needed to do it to be comfortable in their own skin, but I wish they'd found a way to manage their dysphoria without long term compromising their health.

Because as much as they want to be women, and as much as I feel for my friends, the cold hard fact is they'll never be anything other than modified men.

I’m going to say this.

I’d still rather be a heavily modified man who looks nothing like a man or less of a man. Than be a man. It’s so much of a relief to look in the mirror and see myself looking less like a man.m with time.

SapphireSeptember · 29/08/2025 00:06

SnugPeach · 28/08/2025 23:42

Quite literally some brains are. I’m Autistic and this neurodivergent. My brain works differently to people who are neurotypical.

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Yes, but that doesn't mean your brain can be the opposite sex to the rest of you.

I'm an autistic woman. I absolutely know my brain is wired differently. It's fucking shit sometimes.

Boiledbeetle · 29/08/2025 00:07

SnugPeach · 29/08/2025 00:01

Look I already feel 10x better than I did before transition. Even if apparently everybody is just being nice to me or whatever thing you will say to me. On the occasions I go outside people treat me as me. They call me by feminine terms and pronouns. I don’t ask them to do that. I’m just trying to live my life as me.

As far as I'm concerned you are an adult and can do what you like, take hormones not meant for your body in the quantity you are taking them, get your penis cut off and turned into a dead end tube, call yourself Wendy, dance with wild abandon in the moonlight, eat chocolate for breakfast.... Just don't expect people to see you as a woman as you are not and never will be, don't expect people to address you as a woman as your not and never will be and stay out of women's sports, rape crisis centres, changing rooms and toilets as you aren't welcome in them.

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 29/08/2025 00:07

SnugPeach · 29/08/2025 00:01

Look I already feel 10x better than I did before transition. Even if apparently everybody is just being nice to me or whatever thing you will say to me. On the occasions I go outside people treat me as me. They call me by feminine terms and pronouns. I don’t ask them to do that. I’m just trying to live my life as me.

Can you not live your life as you while accepting you’re male? What do you need to do as a woman that you can’t do as a man?

You may feel better but do you ever think of the women whose spaces you’re going in and how they feel about a man in their space?

murasaki · 29/08/2025 00:08

SnugPeach · 29/08/2025 00:05

I’m going to say this.

I’d still rather be a heavily modified man who looks nothing like a man or less of a man. Than be a man. It’s so much of a relief to look in the mirror and see myself looking less like a man.m with time.

OK, that sounds like you might work towards modified man in time with the right therapist. As the maleness is never going to go away. If the modified man makes you happier, great, but still stay out of women's spaces and stop saying you are one. A modified man who accepts that is fine.

eatfigs · 29/08/2025 00:08

SnugPeach · 29/08/2025 00:05

I’m going to say this.

I’d still rather be a heavily modified man who looks nothing like a man or less of a man. Than be a man. It’s so much of a relief to look in the mirror and see myself looking less like a man.m with time.

You should read the accounts of detransitioners that were posted in your last thread. They were once as sure as you are now.

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 29/08/2025 00:10

murasaki · 29/08/2025 00:02

Why are they using pronouns when you are there? That's not normal conversation. I bet they use the correct ones when you aren't there.

I always wonder this about the pronouns thing. Especially when retail staff wear pronouns on their badges - I was always taught it was extremely rude to refer to someone as “he/she” in front of them. I’ve never had to do it. My mum would say “Who’s she the cat’s mother?”. I can’t think of an instance I’d need to refer to Lucy at the Odeon as “they/them”. Virtue signalling bollox

SnugPeach · 29/08/2025 00:11

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 29/08/2025 00:05

Also @SnugPeach bottom surgery is very dangerous and the success rate isn’t terribly high, and it involves lifelong side effects. It won’t make you a woman. Leave your bottom half alone, for your sake.

On that note I think you’ll find we gender critical women do not, contrary to popular opinion, hate trans people. We identify with the dysphoria side as growing up a girl - growing boobs, periods, being leered at by men, having to fight to be seen as more than just a sex symbol at a scarily young age - is a real cage for so many of us. We want you and other trans people to be in a place where you accept yourself and your sex. Where you see you can do all the things you associate with “being a woman”, without actually being a woman (because you can never be a woman)

Id urge you to really take a hard look at what you think makes you a woman, and ask yourself this: does being male restrict me from doing that “womanly” thing?

Unless the answer is biological (give birth, have periods etc) the answer is no.

I’ll put it simply as I’ve stated before. I don’t want to be a male. I don’t want to be seen as one and I don’t want to be one. I already spent years on this myself fighting with myself. I held of transitioning for years, telling myself the same things your saying. You don’t have to be a women you can be and die shiver you like and still be a man. Problem is a fundamentally hated being a man to the core of my being. Nothing can change that for me, I tried.

In my case surgery is my own decision and it’s what I desire. The surgery scares me, not because of what I’ll lose. I won’t loose anything, But only because it’s a major surgery and that’s scary regardless of what is being performed.

MarieDeGournay · 29/08/2025 00:12

SnugPeach · 28/08/2025 23:46

Ok serious question what you have me do instead? What does you world with Trans people look like?

Answering you in the spirit of Catiette's post of 22:42 -
The serious answer to your serious question is to accept reality, even though it can be distressing.

When I was younger I had what may or may not be 'gender dysphoria' [I am aware that it is a debated term]. I hated being a girl, and I wanted to kill myself before puberty started because that would mean that I was becoming a woman and I couldn't possibly live my life as a woman. I wasn't one of those.

A number of things were not at my disposal at that age: the concept of transgenderism, which wouldn't be invented until years later; puberty blockers; gender reassignment surgery.

One important thing did become available to me at that age: feminism.
I learnt that the idea of 'womanhood' I had been brought up on was just a veneer, a social construction that varied from culture to culture and from century to century, a set of stereotypes that kept women in a position of inferiority.

So I threw away the gender stereotype [gender critical from a young ageSmile]
accepted what I couldn't change - my biological sex - and grew up to be a gender non conforming lesbian woman.

Given that it is impossible to change sex, the idea of being trans seems like a mirage in a desert - you want to be a woman, you call yourself a woman, you want other people to see you as a woman, but in fact being a woman is something you can never achieve, just as I could never stop being a woman.

So my answer to your question: accept yourself as you are, instead of constantly seeking to be what you are not and never can be, seems to be a more positive way to live your life.

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