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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JKR Didn’t Have an Opinion. She Poisoned the Well

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CSIRCP · 28/08/2025 14:32

This post will likely be a little too long for most, but if you can spare the time and have a cuppa handy let's sit down and have a chat, shall we?

Firstly, let’s stop calling this a debate. It’s not. This isn’t two sets of ideas clashing. This is one woman’s fear and confusion being weaponized against an entire community.

What J.K. Rowling has done is not just share an opinion. She’s poisoned the well. And that poison is spreading through politics, education, the media, and even the courts.

At the beginning, it might have looked like a tweet. Then a blog. But what she wrote in that essay was revealing: “If I’d been born thirty years later, I too might have tried to transition. The allure of escaping womanhood would have been huge.”
That’s not neutral. That’s projection. It was a confession, repackaged as concern. She projected her own dysphoria and personal battles onto the entire trans community and used it as the foundation for a movement built on suspicion and fear.

She said she cared about women’s rights. Then aligned herself with those who believe all trans women are predators.
She liked racist and Islamophobic tweets. She repeated antisemitic tropes. She cast activists as violent men in dresses. She accused anyone who challenged her of misogyny while branding herself the face of feminism.
All the while she built up a devoted audience that now includes some of the most extreme anti-trans voices in Britain and beyond.

This “gender critical” movement is not about safety, and it’s certainly not about truth. It’s about control.
Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull (Posie Parker), one of Rowling’s ideological allies, has welcomed neo-Nazis to her rallies. Actual Nazis. The kind of people Rowling once wrote villains about.
In one case, people connected to this movement were linked to the satanic terror group 764 — a group that has influenced teen suicides and violent attacks in UK schools. Let that sink in. This is who she’s empowering.

She didn’t just turn away when that started. She doubled down. She gave this movement a gloss of legitimacy. She used her fame to funnel people toward disinformation, fear, and cruelty—and dressed it all up as feminism. But it isn’t feminism when it excludes, vilifies, and harms other women. Especially trans women. Especially intersex people. Especially anyone who doesn’t fit into the narrow fantasy of who is acceptable.

Rowling’s language now echoes in government documents. Her phrases like “gender ideology” have been lifted from far right sources, including the Vatican and authoritarian regimes, and mainstreamed into British law. Her influence helped set the stage for the UK Supreme Court to redefine the word “woman” based on sex assigned at birth, stripping rights from trans and intersex people under the Equality Act. That’s what happens when the well is poisoned. People stop thinking. They start reacting.

Meanwhile, her cult chant her slogans as though they are scientific fact. But science says otherwise. Peer-reviewed studies show that trans people’s brain structures do not align with their sex assigned at birth. They show that gender identity forms in the womb, shaped by hormones and biology not ideology. Large-scale DNA studies have found gene variants linked to gender incongruence. And intersex people exist. That is biological fact. Not one of these truths can be erased by Rowling’s fiction.

What makes this so dangerous is how calm it all sounds. Rowling doesn’t scream. She whispers. She calls it “concern.” She says she’s “just asking questions.”
But it’s never neutral to question someone’s right to exist. It’s not a debate when one side is simply trying to live and the other is trying to strip away their legal recognition and healthcare.

This isn’t just a disagreement. This is a slow campaign of erasure, led by someone with a global platform and millions in the bank.

She’s not some deluded soul from MN; she’s a multi-millionaire author whose words shape global policy. She’s not being silenced. She’s being echoed by judges, by pundits, by politicians trying to climb the ladder by stepping on the backs of trans, non-binary, and intersex people.

And let’s not pretend it stops there. Her influence has allowed people to feel safe expressing open homophobia, biphobia, and hatred toward anyone who challenges gender norms. Some of the same people aligned with her have mocked survivors, denied racism, and claimed slavery was “fine” if it was “kind.”
This is not a group grounded in empathy. It’s a movement that thrives on exclusion and resentment. Some of them now openly identify as neo Nazis. That’s where we are.

So next time someone says “she’s just worried” or “she’s not anti-trans” or “can’t we just disagree,” consider these words. Show them what poison looks like. Not just hateful speech but the deliberate seeding of doubt, division, and cruelty, all wrapped in a soft voice and a smug smile. J.K. Rowling didn’t protect anyone. She infected people. And when she’s gone, her legacy won’t be literature it will be the damage she left behind.

You don’t need to cancel her. You just need to see her clearly.
And if you blindly follow Rowling and her ideas then you need to reflect on what you’re really endorsing.

Because ignorance is not an excuse. Not anymore.

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AstonScrapingsNameChange · 28/08/2025 22:12

GailBlancheViola · 28/08/2025 22:03

I'm sure she had a hand in training Pol Pot, Stalin and Chairman Mao too.

Interesting idea of a chat from the OP, does two lecturing posts now identify as chat?

God, imagine getting cornered by then at a dull party ...

GailBlancheViola · 28/08/2025 22:14

RedToothBrush · 28/08/2025 22:06

Shit. I forgot Genghas Khan and William The Bastard.

Ivan the Terrible as well let's not leave him out absolutely trained by JKR.

GailBlancheViola · 28/08/2025 22:15

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 28/08/2025 22:12

God, imagine getting cornered by then at a dull party ...

Imagine getting cornered anywhere by them.

Takes the 'pub bore' to a whole new level.

Helleofabore · 28/08/2025 22:16

”Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull (Posie Parker), one of Rowling’s ideological allies, has welcomed neo-Nazis to her rallies. Actual Nazis.”

I am afraid you are again spreading falsehoods. This one has been rejected by a judge in Victoria in a defamation case. No, KJK didn’t welcome Nazis at all. And they were not there to support the women at the women’s rally at all, they vehemently hate feminists.

How many falsehoods can you fit into one post? It seems there is barely any truth in that OP at all.

Helleofabore · 28/08/2025 22:21

With the threads and posts this week from male posters telling us who can and cannot be women, I am left being reminded anew that some male people really hate women.

Especially some of those who claim to be women.

Germain Greer really nailed it all that time ago.

Helleofabore · 28/08/2025 22:23

Helleofabore · 28/08/2025 22:11

Peer-reviewed studies show that trans people’s brain structures do not align with their sex assigned at birth.

Can we seriously stop having posted spread this misinformation.

No, brain ‘structures’ do not stop aligning with the person’s sex. Male and female brains are structured to fit their skulls. Skulls shaped and structured as per their sex.

Female brains are shaped to fit female skulls which differ slightly from male skulls in volume and shape. Female brain fibres are also more delicate than male brain fibres. Look up the Rugby study done by Swansea University. It is why no male person should ever play contact sport in the female category.

And the study that so many misinformed people then post links to shows that male people with transgender identity’s brain response groupings match the male profile. Sure some ended up grouped in one zone of that male profile, but it was a male profile and not at all a female profile.

So much misinformation and flawed evidence posted this week by male posters who believe women on this board see ignorant.

Are ignorant. Not see.

apologies

SinnerBoy · 28/08/2025 22:24

DialSquare · 28/08/2025 15:43

They’re too black and white. No grey area.

Stop it! You're killing me!

😅😅😅

NeverOneBiscuit · 28/08/2025 22:30

@GailBlancheViola

As you rightly point out, the OPs chat amounted to two posts. Ironic given his assertion that ‘we’ can’t/won’t debate this topic.

Britinme · 28/08/2025 22:31

I'm sure this has been pointed out upthread but I did get a good laugh out of this bit:
For JKR specifically, it probably also helps that she can grift more social media attention and money out of being the figurehead for the movement.

That would be the JKR who makes so much money out of the actual product of her actual brain and typing fingers that she ends up giving a great deal of it away to various well known charities? That JKR?

MyAmpleSheep · 28/08/2025 22:37

Boiledbeetle · 28/08/2025 21:55

Your image ma'am.

I even dressed up for the occasion.

Now give me my certificate.

There is an image attached, whether it appears now, in a few hours or never is anyone's guess today.

Fabulous. Thoroughly earned.

<hands over certificate>

JanesLittleGirl · 28/08/2025 22:41

Not bad as bonkers threads go but I prefer the Bluestocking. Chacun a son gout.

Catiette · 28/08/2025 22:42

@SnugPeach, there was no space to say this on your other thread, so I will here.

I've not read all your posts, but those that I have come across as well-intentioned and thoughtful. This is, frankly, pretty unusual for visitors to this board - hence the sometimes wary, cynical and acerbic responses! But there's also been such empathy in these, too, and I hope you can see this and derive some comfort and reassurance from it.

I thought about writing this on the other thread, but am putting it here now, as it's not unrelated to this one...

I'm sorry you find being called "male" distressing, and sympathise. However, your distress at this is no more essential or valid than our distress at the systematic attempt to remove or muddy sex-based descriptors. Many of us find this deeply - in fact, in all seriousness, "life-changingly" - distressing.

When someone redefines "male" or "female" to lessen their own discomfort, they redefine everyone else by extension. This means leaving others without the words they need - not only words that matter to their mental wellbeing, but also the words they need to advocate for themselves as a political class needing certain legal protections.

This is a huge ask for female people. Just think about it! In the UK, we've had the vote for less than 100 years, the right to get a mortgage for a mere 50, and the right not to be raped by our husbands for just over 30. 30! Did you know that? That females were, in a very real sense, the sexual property of males, more or less within your lifetime? And even now - right now - females have up to 150% less punching power than males, and are about 70% more likely to be injured in car accidents due to designs based on the male body. Can you imagine how vulnerable it can make us feel to navigate the world knowing this?

Please just hold this in your mind as you really think about what you're asking of us in seeking to change the words male, female, woman and man. Think of the generational trauma and fear this knowledge carries. Note, too, that many more blasé women don't even realise how recently won and fragile our rights are, and how much we're still quietly overlooked and dying because of this (the example of cars, above; medical research; an plethora of other horrifying examples not commonly acknowledged). That many women don't realise all this - that it isn't taught in schools in the the way that racism, homophobia and transphobia etc. are - isn't a sign that equality has been achieved, but a sign of ongoing oppression.

And society's systematic removal of the words we need to name and address this oppression is, frankly, bloody terrifying.

To go back to JKR, her fury is because of this. It is the mirror image of the trans activists demanding that they be called "woman" and "female". Both groups want to be able to define themselves. Both groups fear being denied this. That JKR receives such opprobrium for her honesty, wit and (yes, I do think) petty, snidey insults while trans activists holding banners calling for violence against women are lauded by enthusiastic politicians and celebrities honestly only reinforces my impression of which form of oppression - misogyny or transphobia - is more prevalent in an admittedly complex situation (I hate the oppression Olympics, but feel like we've rather been forced by this issue to compete in it...)

And if I have to decide which group is more deserving, then it really does just come down to this for me - Transpeople can distinguish themselves using "trans". Whether or not they wish to do this, they at least have an identity, a political voice, a name - a word. Females/women, on the other hand, will have nothing else left to refer to ourselves and our oppression if these words are taken from us.

DrBlackbird · 28/08/2025 22:43

murasaki · 28/08/2025 14:39

What a load of AI generated guff by a total wazzock.

She used her fame to funnel people toward disinformation, fear, and cruelty—and dressed it all up as feminism.

em dash gives it away.

PachacutisBadAuntie · 28/08/2025 22:55

Props to those who have taken the time to counter the nonsense.

I would also like to recommend The Echo Chamber by John Boyne, which is both hilarious and highly relevant. I'm sad to be coming to the end of it.

FourIsNewSix · 28/08/2025 22:58

JKR expressed that many girls reject the image of womenhood - specifically they reject their 12 yo interpretation of what they see in the society and media.
It is not new, it is not uncommon.
It is a part of growing up to find your own way, find your own interpretation.

Trans ideology is extremely gender conforming - it sells the nonsense that if you are not happy with how you see the gender, meaning social expectations applied on your sex, you are trans.
I much prefer the GC approach which says you are born a woman, but you can be a woman any way you want.

BettyBooper · 28/08/2025 23:00

Ah thanks for the laugh this evening wims! This thread has been gold!

The more ridiculous theTAs look, the more others will back away.

And they just can't help themselves with looking ridiculous...

Catiette · 28/08/2025 23:02

This one was one of the funnier ones. Some fabulously random, surreal stuff.

BeGreatKhakiOtter · 28/08/2025 23:07

MyAmpleSheep · 28/08/2025 22:37

Fabulous. Thoroughly earned.

<hands over certificate>

Surely such a ceremony requires more of a fanfare?
(Gerbil trumpeters under review)

JKR Didn’t Have an Opinion. She Poisoned the Well
Howseitgoin · 28/08/2025 23:12
happy harry potter GIF by BAFTA

JK is simply the manifestation of attention seeking haz been mythical creature that has been desperately seeking relevance via cos playing suffragette. And being the over achiever she is, seems to be 'selling' quite well again.

SnugPeach · 28/08/2025 23:15

murasaki · 28/08/2025 21:52

SnugPeach has clearly been to Malaga, given what he said about the plastic surgery he's had done. And the way he said it on his other thread. And that was definitely a choice.

I haven’t had any plastic surgery what!?

BeGreatKhakiOtter · 28/08/2025 23:19

The most common way to translate "sad times" into French is "des moments tristes."
Here are a few other options depending on the context:
"Des temps difficiles" (difficult times)
"Une période de tristesse" (a period of sadness)
Do you need help with any other translations?

No ty Gemini!

SinnerBoy · 28/08/2025 23:21

Sammybabes16 · Today 15:57

the majority of women in Norway support trans rights and self ID

Can I just say that after 28 years of working in Norway and on Norwegian ships that that is 151° proof pure distilled bollocks. Norwegians, especially women, are actually terrified of saying the "wrong" thing and being ostracised.

They don't actually support TWAW at all.

They even have foreigners in terror of their jobs. This time last year, on a Norwegian ship, I needed tech support and email wasn't cutting it. I asked my Egyptian boss for the tech support woman's (British) phone number and he said, panicked, "No, this person is not - a woman - they are a they/them!"

Norwegian colleagues all agreed surreptitiously that only ronken actually believe TWAW. They dare not speak up and pretend to agree with it.

SinnerBoy · 28/08/2025 23:22

Ronke - right hand - wanker.

murasaki · 28/08/2025 23:23

SnugPeach · 28/08/2025 23:15

I haven’t had any plastic surgery what!?

What about those d cups you were going on about on your thread?

If you grew them yourself, I'd suggest a diet overhaul.

SnugPeach · 28/08/2025 23:24

PennyAnnLane · 28/08/2025 21:42

The thing is you know what a woman is, we all know what a woman is, she’s an adult human female who has a body that is designed to produce large gametes.

So either you know that you want to be an adult human female who has a body that is designed to produce large gametes, but you also know that’s not possible but you’d like to outwardly appear to be an adult human female who has a body that is designed to produce large gametes OR you think a woman is something else, an essence, an idea, a costume if you will OR you’re a perv who wants to get into women’s single sex spaces for reasons known only to yourself (but the rest of us could guess) - so which is it?

I don’t think being a women is a costume god no. I already stated in my prior thread if I could change my dna then I would. But I can’t can I. I also can’t deal with my dysphoria without transitioning so I guess thats all I’ve got.

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