Women's 'Private Spaces'

[Howseitgoin]

Clearly private spaces for women are considered a necessity by many due to a propensity for male sexual violence. Given this threat is much greater by orders of magnitude in the work place as opposed to public bathrooms, isn't it inconsistent not to demand private spaces there as well?
Thoughts?

Hate to break your winning streak.

But laws which are unconstitutional are not law at all

Yes it is. TW are men. You can’t let done men in and not others. That’s discrimination. So it’s all men or no men.

And the electorate can successfully campaign to make changes to the Acts through their democratically elected politicians.

Or demand a referendum.

Good thing that there is a court case challenging the changes to the Anti-discrimination act happening. Because that will certainly have impact and will cause change to happen.

Democracy huh....

"What constitutional law?"

Say the 'majority' don't want muslim/gay/jews participation in their schools, can you guess which law would prevent that?

I know.

However, posters like this never have the answers. They can never give me any different information than I have already. But, in the interests of fairness I like to see if they can give me any solutions or has access to relevant data I haven’t considered. I want to keep toilets safe for everyone.

Yes, it literally is, because there is no damn way to tell the difference between a male person who is saying he is a woman because he really believes it and a male person who is saying he is a woman to get access to women's spaces, and no way to legislate for that difference even if you could tell.

The "trans rights" position is basically, "any male person who wants access to women's spaces should get it, because the harm done to trans identifying males by denying them access is more important to us than the harm done to women by letting any Tom, Dick or Harry (with particular emphasis on the "Dick") into their spaces.

Please dont insult flying rats 🙃

This poster is basically phoning it in, with all their best Reddit talking points. A few new twists, but not enough to be interesting. 3/10 for effort.

Would it be the Equality Act, by any chance?

The same piece of legislation that expressly permits single sex spaces?

"Or demand a referendum."

Yup, And how many times has that worked?😂

There is no longer a women’s toilet if your policy is that anyone can use it.

Mate, if you are relying on google to support your arguments, no wonder we have such poor offerings from you.

I have used the 'see all' option for the OP's posts and I still have absolutely no idea what they are on about. This has to be one of the least convincing TRA posters I have come across

It’s also legislation that can be changed by Parliament.

I think perhaps the OP is confused by the concept of constitutional law.

Personally I'm not in favour of a referendum on whether men should be allowed into women's spaces, for two reasons.

Firstly, it's one of those "if your biological sex is male, your opinion is neither wanted nor needed" type situations. And secondly, if even one woman says no the answer should be no.

This is like trying to play chess with a pigeon.

That would also be a law based on human rights.

Could you please now point out which human rights you are relying on to support male people being included in female single sex spaces? And please, be careful to cut and paste ALL of the conditions of that human right, don't miss the significant and inconvenient bits.

None.
(hint because what constitution is written in a way which prevents the citizen majority from changing it )

Let's get back to basics as none of the whataboutery is fact or logic based: bearing in mind the facts that males are, at population level, bigger, stronger, faster, more violent and more criminal than females at population level, and that we, and almost all other societies are patriarchal, what are the population level benefits of giving female sex-based rights to the sex class of males?

"The same piece of legislation that expressly permits single sex spaces?"

That never happened. Policy permitted that decision. The legal ruling only said the word 'sex' for purposes of anti discrimination was based on reproductive differences. The legal ruling does not green light the discrimination of trans people. Policy interpretation does which means it can be legally challenged.

This is such a good post.

Male toilets and public spaces being not fit for purpose and dangerous to many of the male people who use them is a problem I can sympathise with. That male on male violence is an issue that should be addressed isn’t something I’m going to fight against. But the solution isn’t “let’s make female spaces less safe”.

Male spaces might need rethinking to protect vulnerable men/male bodied groups. But this is a male problem for male people to fix. I’m happy to be supportive, I’m not doing it for them.

Tell me you have read neither the judgment nor the Equality Act without telling me...etc.

More often than I’ll get an answer from you to my question.

Your point being?

It is still a democratic process in Australia and based on a 'super majority'. I am sure you understand the significance of my pointing it out in relation to your original 'tryanny of the majority' post.

Trans people are not being discriminated against. Males are being told that where a space is stated to be for the female sex, they should not be in it. All males. Not some males.