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So not happy with the puberty blockers ban in the UK and frustrated by Wes Streeting closing her planned loophole she found a new one and has been arranging for parents to take their kids abroad to get prescriptions of puberty blockers injections and testosterone for under 16s. The government has said its going to stop the practice but hasn't said how.

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Oh for goodness sake, you are embarrassing yourself with this nonsense. A condom does not ALTER YOUR SEX ORGANS.

Puberty blockers do. You don't seem to understand that if a child stays on PBs for years, they NEVER go through puberty. They don't suddenly go through puberty at 18 if they stop PBs at 18. The body does NOT go through puberty then or at all. So the sex organs never develop.

Er, no. Puberty Blockers lock in sex damage. Nothing to do with 'identity'. That damage to the body remains even when someone detransitions. The examples of Ritchie etc show this.

These seem to be major factors in typical transgender identification. Anecdotally, it appears that way with the transman I know quite well. I think there may also be a minority motivation in some men of wanting to escape societal expectations of men.

You've had it explained to you on numerous occasions that ethics takes into account factors other than 'individual autonomy'. Autonomy is of course an important factor, but the moderation of individual actions via a system of consensual moral guidelines, is another key principle.

Ethical principles go beyond the individual and their desires. You have twisted this to suggest that some women don't believe that a woman has a right to control her fertility or to choose to limit it. This is not the case, but there are limits and boundaries to everything, and ultimately none of us is totally autonomous.

Having begun transition in his mid to late 20s, it'd be pretty odd for Ritchie to be on puberty blockers.

Men who want to pretend to be women take hormone blockers until they are castrated.

OK, but they probably weren't doing much to his brain development at, IIRC, something like 26.

We don’t know exactly what it did to his brain function - they may have made him more vulnerable to grooming. We know hormone/puberty blockers have an impact on adults as they used to be given to chemically castrate rapists, and prior to that, gay men like Alan Turing.

Ironically they are no longer given to rapists on human rights grounds.

Ritchie had mental health issues and was vulnerable when he was groomed and pushed into surgery (by activists) which he regretted as soon as he woke up.

Doctors don't just do what their patients tell them (unless like in the US they do it for money). For example you have no right to insist that attempts are made to resuscitate you if your doctors think CPR would be futile. Doctors will as far as possible act in their patient's best interests.

You might think it paternalistic that doctors are reluctant to sterilise men or women under the age of thirty but if the general medical consensus is that it's better to leave the operation until the chance of regret is lower. You might find a doctor who doesn't agree with the consensus but you cannot make the rest of us who don't agree operate on you. Sterilisation is not a human right nor is receiving puberty blockers, cross sex hormones & mutilating surgery. Patients demanding these treatments cannot force doctors to do their bidding.