This thread is specifically for people who think JK Rowling is awful so..

[CurlewKate]

If you don't think she is please don’t post. Please can you tell me specifically what she has said or done that is so bad. I promise that I will listen and not argue. If you could include links that would be great. If your inclination is to assume that I’m posting in bad faith and any reasonably well informed person must be stupid or bigoted not to know, then please just let the thread die.

This just sounds sexist - surely you treat people as individuals?

This thread could have worked is others had had faith in the OP. Its like everytime there's a thread about JKR or KJK there are always the hijackers who insinuate something terrible about them.

Had the thread been allowed to just be a list of the supposedly bad things JKR had done or is doing, it probably wouldn't even have been a page of posts.

And in terms of rebuttal, it would have been easy to then just add a list of all the threads illustrating what JKR has contributed.

The knee jerk reaction that everything has to be responded to in depth in fact isn't always the answer. Which is why so many threads get hijacked so easily.

It would have been really interesting to see if anyone actually had anything based on reality that she has done wrong in terms of her public personna.

What a shame to OP didn't work.

I do love Glinner & have been following him since very early on in the gender war battle. I support his substack etc, I've met him, had a drink etc. I'm 100% thankful for all he has done and I feel very badly for how he has been treated. He has suffered a personal cost for sure.

But I do cringe when Glinner begs from crumbs/praise/support from JKR & I really really wish he wouldn't do this. I'm sure she has reasons, and she is perfectly entitled to them. She does not have to explian herself. All JKR does is pretty well considered - and Glinner publically calling for her to support him like he has been doing for some time now is bad taste IMO.

I don't think many of the people with a grudge against JKR will be arriving to this thread.

However, this forum has a long list of perceived grievances against her, from her haters:
https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughJKRowling/

To be honest it's quite amazing how they spin her every utterance into some sort of evil.

I have always believed that trans women are trans women, but I treat them the same as other women in my life. I don't treat them as men

What's the difference?

And in what sense are they 'not men'?

Do you? Do you treat every single person you ever meet as individuals?

I met many new people this week. Some were trans women. As I didn't know them, I treated them in the same way I treated the other women. Which was different to how I treated the men. Obviously this all changes when you get to know people.

How do you treat women that's different to how you treat men?

In what way was it different to how you treated the men?

Genuine question, are you aware of the autogynephiles?

Hiya justteanbiscuits . Might I please ask you about the transwomen you know? How did they become transwomen? I am really keen to find out how it happens and no one can tell me; you obviously know that in order to be a transwoman one must be male (a man). At what point do they become a transwoman and how does this happen?

I am genuinely asking in good faith, I want to understand.

Thank you.

They are trying to persuade you that women's rights are a trivial issue and you are buying it!!

I don't treat men any differently from women in a social situation; I find it bizarre anyone would! In what way do you treat each sex differently, @justteanbiscuits ?

Yes and just because politicians may use this as a diversion from other matters they'd like less scrutiny on, doesn't make it less important.

Yes.

I don't even know how I would begin to treat somebody as a man or a woman.

I genuinely don't know what you would do differently and am intrigued.

I bet she doesn't come back to answer the question.

I see what you mean. A lot of the things she says and does (eg the whisky & cigar) would be fair comment if a man said or did them, but she is really not demure enough to represent women appropriately.

Just because somebody doesn't agree with you there is no need to act superior

Oh dear. Val McDermid so dislikes people who don’t agree with her that she’s got a touch of the McCarthys about her. Wholeheartedly endorsing the creation of a blacklist for any authors who don’t share her TRA luxury beliefs.
So, you don’t have to like JK Rowling, that’s entirely up to you. But you might want to reconsider your opinion of Ms McDermid if the above statement is something that is important to you.

For heavens sake. You lot of are obsessed with pulling everything I say apart.

Yes, I react to women differently in social situations then I do men. In this particular situation, which I am not explaining any further, I had made a... trinket.. for the females in our group. I included the transwomen when I handed these out. I wouldn't moan about my bra strap to a man I didn't know well, but I would a woman. Things like this. Anyone claiming they react 100% the same, socially, to a man and a woman is lying.

And I am not rude enough to ask these people how they 'became' a transwoman. One person I am close enough to said that they had always felt different, and everything about them had made sense once they had found out about trans women. It took them many years before coming out to family though. Having known them for a long time, I can honestly say they seem much happier, relaxed and an all round nicer person since coming out. I have not discussed it in depth with anyone else I know.

But sadly, this is the end of my day online. So if you can say "oh I bet she won't be back" now, and it will be true. I thought it polite to warn you.

It reads to me like a Jane Austin plot, where the women are siphoned off to one room to do some delicate needlework and the men go off to play billiards and smoke cigars.

I find it a little odd that you asked opinions from
people who think JKR is ‘awful’ to explain why, asked people who think otherwise not to reply and have then proceeded to reside over a thread where anyone with the opinion you asked for (opinion) is then piled on by the whole of the Feminist board, facts demanded as if we’re all in the Supreme Court.

You have now rephrased your OP to include the word ‘dangerous’….

I thought you wanted to listen and hear an alternative view but is clear you were setting everyone up for failure.

Cringe dude. You probably should have looked into it before posting.

The last thing the NHS should be doing is spending hundreds of thousands of pounds sterilising and mutilating children, giving them drugs that will increase their chances of osteoporosis, heart disease, stroke and cancer, painting rainbow crossings, buying thousands of rainbow lanyards and paying for ridiculous employment tribunals brought by female nurses who are being forced to strip off in front of males.

Maybe we could call you an Andrew Tate supporter.

I mean me having absolutely no evidence to show this is the case doesn't mean you're not, right?

Yes but don't you take their sex into account as well? At least when you first know them. I treat men with more wariness, for example. Maybe that's sexist but one has to be realistic too.