This thread is specifically for people who think JK Rowling is awful so..

[CurlewKate]

If you don't think she is please don’t post. Please can you tell me specifically what she has said or done that is so bad. I promise that I will listen and not argue. If you could include links that would be great. If your inclination is to assume that I’m posting in bad faith and any reasonably well informed person must be stupid or bigoted not to know, then please just let the thread die.

Well yes. That’s perfectly true.

But especially if I immersed myself in the meninist debate to the degree that I had a cult following of people hanging off my every word and fiercely defending me against even the slightest criticism.

How often do you moan about your bra strap to men who think they are actually women?

On reflection, the only person I moan about bra straps to is my husband. So not sure how that one computes.

There's a really easy way to not fail, which is to provide some evidence of JK Rowling saying something awful. There's also potentially a million quid in it for you.

Not so much pulling apart - more intrigued by another world.

If I were making gifts for strangers I would make the same for everyone, including if it was a gift like jewellery because I wouldn’t make assumptions about their taste based on sex. This sounds like assuming that men like golf.

I don’t generally have problems with bra straps, but my willingness to discuss something personal is much more guided by my relationship with an individual. If there is possibility for discomfort, I’m probably just not sharing information with any stranger.

*Anyone claiming they react 100% the same, socially, to a man and a woman is lying”

I would assume that most people on this board would agree with this in situations where sex is relevant, but most of the time it’s polite to treat people as individuals, not stereotypes.

Having found what I think is the tweet (I won’t link) the poster appears to be referring to, I see zero evidence that JKR responded to their question or even saw it. So I’d take the claim with a large pinch of salt.

Not clear what point you are making here, but JKR had a cult following long before she started talking about gender.

If anything I think the toxicity of the cult following was one of the things that prompted her to speak out. In doing so she very much sacrificed the support of her cult followers.

Someone with such a massive platform has a huge responsibility to do their due diligence in not spreading misinformation. If they do spread it, even unwittingly, a quiet deletion is nowhere near good enough a response.

Probably much less than many people on this board.

I think it’s a mixture of having spent alot of time in male company and, I admit, having been lucky enough not to have had experiences that would prompt wariness and leading a fairly privileged life.

But even if you are wary, it’s still not clear why or how you would act differently.

JK Rowling is well known for her extensive charitable work. So far she has donated in excess of $200 million across many charitable sectors including those forcused on vulnerable children, women and those affected by neurological conditions.

So she does, and she is.

Theres a list of things women should be doing or thinking about rather than trans ideology.

But no one has ever said to eddie izzard, we have to cure childhood cancer before we are going to give head space to this 'susie' character.

Trans ideology is so unimportant that JKR cant even talk about it, yet become the biggest issue when david tennant does?

She's shown herself to be a bully & is vile to people for no reason other than she has discovered their views may not align perfectly with hers.

Not entirely surprised, there were clues before all this.

Examples?

This is it.

"It's no trouble, I'll just use the gents. Your needs are more important. Sorry to bother you!" is something approximately none of these men who desire to be women say.

Receipts please.

No, she hasn't.
edited to add: Sorry, I replied to the wrong person. Can I delete this?

I really don't have the time
Just look at her twitter page 🤷🏻‍♀️

Trouble is she doesn't do her cause any favours. Those who agree with her love the fact that someone is out fighting guns blazing but reason, listening and understanding is the only way to resolve the issue. Embracing the toxicity merely pushes people further into their own corners.

It's not rocket-science, it just doesn't feel invigorating.

I wish more people wanted to listen to and understand women.

Too often it seems all the listening, all the understanding, all the accommodating, is being done by woman for men, and hardly ever vice versa.

Are you supporting her being censured for reacting to male people who have history abusing her?

Because unless you can supply examples of this bullying, we can only assume that you wish to censure her for those responses to her abusers. Maybe you should check back on just who it is you are perceiving she is being' vile' to before you make the accusation.

I remember people saying this when JKR shone the spotlight on that trans-identifying male referee in the news (for being first openly trans) with one of her tweets.

She'd written: "When I was young all the football managers were straight, white, middle-aged blokes, so it’s fantastic to see how much things have changed."

Then she got lambasted, called cruel, why pick on "her", bully, etc. and so on.

But as it turns out, the guy had been in her replies for years insulting her. How about that eh.

I always find it pretty illuminating that they call her a bully (with very little evidence), but have very little to say about the scores of males (however they identify) who dish out rape and abuse threats to her on a pretty constant basis. She's even had TRA lunatics outside her home, right? Silence from the types who call her a bully.

Something tells me any examples aren’t going to be forthcoming 🥱

My biggest issue with JK Rowling is that she is happy to receive royalties from Harry Potter licensing, despite the IP often being used by the likes of Primark, Shein and H&M who have all received accusations (often very well documented) of child/underage labour.

I don't think you get to call yourself a philanthropist when you're sitting by and accepting the millions of pounds earned from hugely exploitative factory conditions.

I also find it kind of hypocritical that she continues to approve of another Harry Potter being filmed, knowing the child actors involved are making huge, life changing decisions at an age where they have no idea what kind of public and media scrutiny is in store for them. I very much doubt the young actor playing Herminone is aware of the "countdown to 18" Emma Watson received at the time, and how much that would have affected her as an individual. I've already seen racial abuse used against the poor kid.

I think people who claim to care about the rights and wellness of children, such as JK Rowling, should be coming to the conclusion that these huge, decade-long projects for child actors simply aren't ethical at this point, knowing what we know about how many child stars go on to have mental health problems. If kids who believe they're trans shouldn't be allowed to try living as the opposite gender, then child actors shouldn't be used beyond very short term projects that they can easily walk away from. I would argue both have the potential to interfere with neural pathways over a sustained period of time.

It's not our job to prove that you didn't just commit libel. It's on you to back up the claims you make with evidence.

You can't do this for the same reason that none of her other haters can. It's not because you're all terribly busy people. It's because you're all talking shite.

Those are interesting points and I wonder if she's considered them. They'd be good questions for a journalist to put to her if she ends up doing interviews about the HP TV series.