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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Nottingham Die-In on 16 August

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Greyskybluesky · 13/08/2025 16:15

Anybody?

This movement really does feed off itself in the most unhealthy way, creating paranoia, fearfulness and division.

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MarieDeGournay · 19/08/2025 09:53

'make Nottingham a city of sanctuary for transgender people for the UK'

Apart from the 🙄about the appropriation of the term 'sanctuary cities', it's interesting to see what is the main item? only item? on the agenda:
"We respect your right to use whichever facility you feel safest and most comfortable in."
Yes, as ever - toilets!
Every trans campaign seems to boil down to 'We want to pee in the women's toilet'
So 'sanctuary for transgender people' = toilets. Again. Maybe that's what the T in LGBT really stands forHmm

Women campaign for women-only spaces in general - hospital wards, prisons, rape crisis centres, changing rooms - but trans activists seem obsessed with toilets. Women's toilets, in particular, and wanting to pee in them.

All these businesses have signed up to this statement
"We respect your right to use whichever facility you feel safest and most comfortable in."
which not only deliberately contravenes the EA as reasserted by the SC, but also gives able-bodied people carte blanche to use the accessible toilets, which exist thanks to decades and decades of campaigning by disabled people.

Another great example of how 'trans inclusivity' is exclusive of other people's rights.

SidewaysOtter · 19/08/2025 10:23

RedToothBrush · 19/08/2025 09:07

Wait until 'but Stonewall made me do it' mania starts to hit.

The Garden Court Chambers defence?

RedToothBrush · 19/08/2025 10:37

SidewaysOtter · 19/08/2025 10:23

The Garden Court Chambers defence?

Yes.

The refuge of last resort.

For now.

ThreeWordHarpy · 19/08/2025 11:34

What a load of performative bolleaux. I went to uni in Nottingham back in the dark ages and it was a small c conservative place (went on a free Mandela march and there were more police than protesters). But my L&G friends (as it was then) said it was no worse or better than any other UK city for them.

Of course trans people should be able to browse and shop in peace just like everyone else. I can’t think anyone in their right mind would think any different. But by actively encouraging men into women’s single sex spaces they are signalling who they think are the most important customers. And it’s not necessarily the ones with the most disposable income.

i tell you what would impress me about a retail business - if they actively made their shop access, layout and changing rooms disabled friendly so people with a visual impairment and a guide dog or wheelchair users for example, could have the same “retail experience” as the rest of us. I am neither but even I can see little things could make a big difference. Like when I took mum shopping in M&S they had a chair by the customer services desk in the food hall so she was able to sit while they dealt with her click and collect. Such a small thing but mum always mentioned how nice it was.

Chersfrozenface · 19/08/2025 12:45

SidewaysOtter · 19/08/2025 07:05

There are some national chains on that list, including Brewdog, Pitcher and Piano and Broadway cinemas.

Ones to add to the boycott list?

Well, Brewdog is in the shit anyway.

"Brewdog to close 10 pubs across UK, some 'within days'
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgmw0mmxpjlo.amp

"BrewDog axed from 2,000 pubs..."
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/brewdog-beer-axed-pubs-london-b1243321.html

The Mail, for balance.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15010077/amp/BrewDog-statement-beer-axed-2-000-pubs.html

I don't think the BBC has asked a drag queen for an opinion on Brewdog, its beers or its travails.

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