Men are pushing women over in the street - as a trend

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Experts fear that new types of misogyny and harassment – including spitting and pushing women over – are taking hold in the UK as they move offline

This type of targeted shoulder barging has a name: butsukari otoko. The term, which originated on the streets of Japan in 2018, describes a type of violence against women that is done in a crowded public space, most commonly train stations.

It could at first appear accidental, but it is actually intentional; it is gendered (men doing it to women), and done for misogynistic reasons.

Researchers fear it is gaining traction in the UK, spreading from online videos to real-life encounters. “It’s come out of a subculture that existed years ago in Japan,” says Megan Hughes, a researcher at the Alan Turing Institute’s Centre for Emerging Technology and Security, which tracks online extremism. “It is something that’s been around for a long time, and people are now recognising it and are speaking out, but it’s a really difficult thing to track.

“They are sometimes subtle collisions, which are designed to appear accidental. They’re making victims second-guess intent or motive, and that then makes it really difficult for people wanting to report a crime. So it’s really hard for us to monitor.”

Street harassment isn’t new, but many believe it’s getting worse. A poll by Zencity, which surveyed 1600 women, found that 69 per cent said they had first or secondhand experience of women being ill-treated within the last 12 months; 75 per cent of women surveyed said violence and harassment was a serious problem and asked whether it had got worse in the last five years – 42 per cent agreed, and 30 per cent thought it was the same.

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Omg I was barged past a few days ago in London and I turned around and thought “Wtf was that for?!” to just see the back of them. It felt far too forceful to be an accident and he didn’t turn around to apologise. I hope it’s a coincidence but it did stop me in my tracks and I nearly said something - but I had my kids with me.

This is so depressing but not that surprising.

Exactly the same here. St Pancras a few weeks ago.

A lot of men really are sad little fuckers aren’t they? Imagine being in their desperate unwanted unloved little brains. 🤮🤮. I guess that’s where the problem lies. No one wants them. No one ever wanted them. Apart from tasering I’m not quite sure how to get rid of them.

😄 my thoughts too! A curfew between the hours of 6 in the morning and 11 at night should do the trick. How much safer would we all be.

A weird man tried to barge me the other day. He was staring at me, crossed over the wide path and tried to collide with me. He failed, then became abusive because I gave him a dirty look. Twat.

This happened to me, just over 20 years ago. I was early 30s and heavily pregnant walking along in a busy shopping centre with my mum.
A woman about the similar age barged right into me exactly as the OP describes. Like a full shoulder body blow. I was shocked and still remember it very clearly.

Fortunately I'm pretty sturdy and she didn't knock me over.

There really are some very odd people about.

Yes to tasers and curfews, I’d also like to bring back the stocks for these reprobates!

Light a cigarette while walking.

Umbrella tip sticking up out of the handbag.

Hasn’t every woman had this?

I’ve burnt a few freaks in my time.

Handy hint: A scar’s better than the loud Oi.

My mother said to carry a metal ended tail comb in public. She said it came in useful against the frotters, but I can imagine it would work well in other scenarios too.

Is this just the end result of patriarchy chicken?

I can’t believe it’s illegal for women or anyone to carry pepper spray in the Uk! It’s harmless but can make a difference. Especially with all that you can see going on at the minute!

This isn’t a new thing, men with issues have been doing it for many years. They do it to weaker looking men too, it’s like a poodle trying to dominate a Great Dane.

I was about to say the same, an extension of this.
I walk a lot and often have men deliberately walk into my path even though there is plenty of room to make me move out of their way or risk bumping into them. One little turd even smirking as he did so.
it’s so depressing that life as a woman feels less safe than it has done in years

I’ve found the majority of angry men tend to be middle aged or older too. I haven’t noticed it much along younger men/teenagers.

He didn't 'try to push her under a bus', he pushed her out of his way, and there was a bus coming. Not that that's much better. Still, I have wondered about him.

@cheesycheesy except for the Tim’s. I had two maybe late teens sidle up to me last summer at the shoe section in TKMAX.

they were both dressed like Dylan Mulvaney, Much taller than me (I am 4ft 11)

Making lots of girly noises about shoes i moved away and they just followed me.

In the end i said the size nines are over there mate….

God yes. I was barged by one years ago on a tow path. He had total right of way to use the centre of the narrow path, forcing anyone else off it, because he had a lycra clad willy. My choice was to leap sideways into the canal in one direction or tall nettles in the other. I chose nettles. He knew exactly what he was doing. It was thirty years ago and I still remember the shock, fear and rage I felt at his entitlement.

My exH used to square up to me, arms out from his sides, fists clenched, look of thunder on his face, in the house, if our paths happened to cross in a room.

How is that any better? We teach children at nurseries not to push others out of the way, ffs.

Indeed.

I carry it in the US.

Nope, you’ve got it arse about face.
’patriarchy chicken’ is just when women are more aware and stand their ground.

It happened to me some months ago, broad daylight, three boys around 15yo. One shoved the other into me, cannoning into my shoulder. Cue moronic hur hur hur laughing.

What happened? Was it someone behind you on the way down who shoved you or something? Yikes. I already have a fear of escalators.

I took two primary school aged boys I worked with to southbank centre about a decade ago, and some older man shoved the two of them so hard they almost fell and there was sooo much space around them there was zero need for him to squeeze by. He walked away so fast before I could say something and I was furious. I actually suspected a racial motivation in that incident.

If I’d been with another adult I’d have chased him down.

Have been shoulder checked by men at least a couple of times before myself once in the US, and once in the UK. Tbf I've had a woman do it too me on two occasions too - once in Edinburgh another time in Liverpool.

This is so weird because I had an incident like this last week. Was crossing a bridge. We were in a group so waited for them to cross. Even though it was a large bridge we had about 5 of us, two prams a young toddler and a dog.

As they reach the entrance the group begins filtering off. I start walking and get subtlety shoulder barged. It’s confusing because I was like have I left enough space, did they do that on purpose. It was odd. I have moved through crowds my whole life and rarely had issues. There was plenty of space.

This thread has made me think about it again.

It's a weird practice to indulge in.
I've had teen boys try it with myself either walk straight at me or if sitting walk as close as possible to my feet.
I'm a 60 year old man and not a threat.
One little shit changed his mind when I deliberately rammed his hip with a trolley.
I saw the look in his eyes and it was panic.
With an oops sorry min I went on my way.