Graham Linehan on Joe Rogan why he left the UK

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Graham Linehan talking on Joe Rogan about the UK trans movement - most of it I have heard him talking about before but when he talked about moving to the USA, Joe asked him (with regard to so many people being jailed for facebook posts etc.)
'Do you think that people are going to bail out of the UK and leave it a mental institution?'
Graham replied:
'The last few months I was in the UK I felt so paranoid and afraid because I thought I barely exist as a person there, I exist only to get sued and for the police to visit me'.
He is being sued again currently and has to return to the UK to face trial.

It is a terrible sign of the state of the country that people like Graham can't stay here and the state helps to harrass him and others via the police and the courts.

My mum feels the same way as me actually. But I guess her female perspective will be revoked for that :)

'Men have been infiltrating women's spaces for years without their consent' is not the great, positive argument you seem to think it is.

"Behaviour of men" is weasel words. Like what? Sexual harassment? Bullying? There are a lot of very casual accusations of inappropriate behaviour, so how true it is really depends on the individual case. And if someone is behaving particularly anti socially, then they should be removed. I don't see what that does to do with sex.

Okay can you explain your vapid understanding of a basic female reality? And are you male or female btw?

The social contract that men stay out of the women's toilets was enforced due to people being generally decent for decades. As the saying goes, the good men stayed out so that the bad men stood out. Men would also sort it out if they saw a man trying to enter the womens' loos.

Unfortunately, the (usually male - surprise, surprise) doctors who treated male homosexual transsexuals (as they were known) did say that their patients should use the womens' loos. Women were never asked, it was what men decided. However, with the huge rise in people identifying as trans, the rise in AGP and the huge overstep of the TRAs, women are now standing up and saying 'no'.

Human beings cannot change sex. It's not just the odd HSTS, it is also people like Sarah Jane Baker, Kate Dolotowski, et al. The Supreme Court has clarified the law.

The overstepping is finished, people never had the right to use single sex facilities for the opposite sex. The decent trans identifying people will obey the law and use the loos for their sex or the unisex loos. Once again, the good will stay out so that the bad stand out.

Restrooms aren't safe spaces, in any capacity. What's wrong with men and women being in he same room? If a man does something inappropriate, then that's on him as an individual. A man harassing other men in the mens room is illegal too. So behaviour is the problem, not....being in the same room as other people.

The social contract says that there are separate spaces and that men stay out of women's.

Why do a small group of men think they get to change that? How entitled can you get?

People aren't bad for not obeying your demands. I've only known one trans women personally, who was formally a gay male. She used the women's restroom occasionally, but didn't use public restrooms much in the first place. She had no intention of doing anything bad in the women's room and had no interest in other women in a sexual way, but according to you, she's 'bad'? Nope. People can just as easily accuse you if being bad, and it wouldn't be any more or less factual.

Terrible.
Poor man.
It’s our loss.

According to who? Again, restrooms aren't safe spaces. Sexless spaces already exist. And sex segregated restrooms didn't come about because of rape or harassment specifically in the toilets.

Sure she does

Women want spaces away from men. Deal with it.

Unless you think womem shouldn't get to set their own boundaries?

The law. Not my demands. The law.

You appear to have a very low opinion of people with trans identities. I think that most of them are decent people and that they will follow the law.

Oh great! So you knew one nice guy, and now we must let them all in!

I think we know "Erin"'s answer to that.

Predators can already go into the women's restroom, or the men's room. Restrooms aren't safe spaces. For anyone.

There is no 'letting' people into public spaces. If they commit a crime, throw them out. But that's not specific to restrooms.

Why are you still wanging on about 'restrooms'? This is a UK based forum, you know.

Do you want people who look like men to use the women's restroom? Many trans men look like men, which means any man could go into the women's room and simply claim to be biologically female, and you couldn't prove otherwise.

V tired. Misread your post. Yes, women are totes cool with letting men into their spaces until they commit a crime.

Honestly, pop back to trans Reddit where the arguments are not so closely dissected.

Public toilets aren't safe spaces. What we want doesn't mean they should be human rights issues. People want and demand lots of things that you wouldn't give the time of day.

The law says women have the right to single sex toilet provision.

Suck it up Buttercup.

I'm about to tap the interferon sign. But will let you all carry on, if you wish.

I am going to kindly suggest that you actually READ the Supreme Court judgement.

I personally have no issues with women who identify as transmen using the womens' toilets or the unisex toilets. The judgement, however, has considered those women/transmen who have modified their bodies to a large degree with testosterone. Which you will be able to read all about if you bother read it.

Oh. I came on here to see what people thought about Glinner on JR, but it seems someone has let the crackpot misogynist out again to tell all
the mean women that they can’t say no to men.

I’m out.