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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Let Women Speak in Glasgow this weekend 9th August 2 - 4pm

303 replies

IKnowWhatAWomanIs · 07/08/2025 11:06

LET WOMEN SPEAK GLASGOW

Posting this to let women in and around Glasgow know.

9th August 2pm - 4pm outside the Kelvingrove Museum G3 8AG

Let Women Speak Glasgow! A weekend of terfy events organised by our fabulous Locals.

Starting the weekend with 8pm Friday Night Dinner, a small dinner with Kellie-Jay and the team.

LWS Glasgow, free event 2 - 4pm on Saturday

Saturday Night dinner, drinks and dancing.

Sunday brunch with TERFtalk live.

More info & to buy tickets for Friday Night Dinner / Saturday After Party / Terf Talk Live

https://www.letwomenspeak.org/event-details/let-women-speak-glasgow

Let Women Speak Glasgow | Let Women Speak

#LetWomenSpeakGlasgow

https://www.letwomenspeak.org/event-details/let-women-speak-glasgow

OP posts:
PlanetJanette · 10/08/2025 00:34

What did they expect the police to do?

Do they understand the role of the police is to enforce criminal law? What crime do they think was committed by being asked to leave the venue?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/08/2025 01:29

BettyBooper · 09/08/2025 22:16

'Apparently one of the bar staff (male, 6 foot 4) ran out crying because of the sign that says I'm not a vet but I know what a dog is.'

We are seriously fucked as a country if this is the level of resilience of the general public.

That’s ridiculous!

suggestionsplease1 · 10/08/2025 01:34

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 10/08/2025 00:01

Just reading through the thread. Where does it say, anywhere, that suggestionsplease is male?
It doesn't. It's that pathetic thing again on here that any voice you don't like/agree with must be a man, isn't it?

There is clear and consistent evidence that I am female.

Anyone could examine my 6 year posting history and the timescale, my initial posts about my F-F relationship breakup, my long period of posting on random topics for months after this, and then my eventual discovery of the transphobia on the FWR forum many months after this.

ThatBlackCat · 10/08/2025 01:48

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suggestionsplease1 · 10/08/2025 01:49

Annoyedone · 09/08/2025 14:55

Ooh I might just do that…. I am a premium member after all so I have that ability. Are you sure you want me to?

Still waiting.

What's happening @Annoyedone ?

Are you preparing your retraction?

suggestionsplease1 · 10/08/2025 02:15

As I have said previously , and as you all are perfectly able to look up independently; there is straightforward legal remedy for me regarding defamation.

There is enough evidence to show that I have an identity on FWR, as there are plenty of posts from other posters quoting my own posts, that reference my history and reference a concept of who I am, so there is a context in which I am known, which creates the necessary scenario for false statements to harm my reputation and for that to be legally actionable.

ThatBlackCat · 10/08/2025 02:16

suggestionsplease1 · 10/08/2025 02:15

As I have said previously , and as you all are perfectly able to look up independently; there is straightforward legal remedy for me regarding defamation.

There is enough evidence to show that I have an identity on FWR, as there are plenty of posts from other posters quoting my own posts, that reference my history and reference a concept of who I am, so there is a context in which I am known, which creates the necessary scenario for false statements to harm my reputation and for that to be legally actionable.

Then your excuse for fighting to destroy the most basic human rights of the female sex is.... ?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/08/2025 07:00

What statement do you imagine “harms your reputation?” 😂

Igneococcus · 10/08/2025 07:24

Somewhere, Jolyon, nattily dressed in his wife's kimono, is eyeing up his next grift, bringing lawsuits from anonymous users of an internet forum against other, equally anonymous users of that internet forum. He is probably writing his next begging fundraising appeal as we speak.

SirChenjins · 10/08/2025 08:38

He takes payment in crypto now - those completely anonymous online accounts have nothing to fear.

SirChenjins · 10/08/2025 08:39

Payment in crypto

SirChenjins · 10/08/2025 08:40

Ahhh - I've figured it out. Who knew?!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/08/2025 08:41

What are you trying to post @SirChenjins?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 10/08/2025 08:43

Although it is frustrating that the man with the over loud PA keeps turning up and drowning out the voices of women, I think it's a bit of an own goal really. Your average passer by is going to see a group of normal mostly middle aged women, some holding common sense signs, being screamed at by teenagers with blue hair. People will draw their own conclusions.

suggestionsplease1 · 10/08/2025 08:50

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/08/2025 07:00

What statement do you imagine “harms your reputation?” 😂

@Annoyedone has repeatedly falsely asserted that I am a Reform/ Nigel Farage supporter and subsequent posts indicate some readers believe this, when nothing could be further from the truth.

They never have got back about their intention to do a deep dive on my posting history, have they 🤔

There are multiple lies about me on FWR, not just on this thread, and they stem from a desire to undermine me and misrepresent me to others.

Helleofabore · 10/08/2025 08:54

suggestionsplease1 · 09/08/2025 18:54

Maybe you also have a legal summary of libel legislation and whether Mumsnet is the named party or whether they are obliged to take steps to identity posters on Mumsnet to facilitate direct legal action?

It's amazing how many GC posters here are happy with libel.

Where are those quotes of my posts again? There are 2500+ of them stretching back 6+ years

Still waiting..

Sorry, I missed this.

I seem to have walked into a discussion that I have not read the background to. I was merely agreeing with the poster that you, personally, have used guilt by association to align people with political parties. I have no idea what you are referring to by court cases and I won't be bothered reading this thread to work it out. I was responding to a notification.

Do you deny using tactics such as guilt by association, or 'getting into bed with' in the past because someone shares a macro level view on one issue even if when you drill into the details there is quite a different in the motivation, the direction and even the finer details of the broad level view?

When you have posted things like 'Posie Parker doesn’t need to cosy up to or get into bed with the far right...she’s perfectly capable of occupying the bed on her own' I wonder if there can be any other interpretation. But please, feel free to clarify that this is not you using tactics whereby you take one or even three very broadly shared views to falsely accuse someone of a particular political alignment.

cigarsmokingwoman · 10/08/2025 08:55

I keep reading elsewhere that PP goes 'too far' at times and is both 'extreme' GC and "racist", but I don't actually know why people say this, I guess I haven't been payiing attention? Can anyone explain perhaps?

suggestionsplease1 · 10/08/2025 08:59

Helleofabore · 10/08/2025 08:54

Sorry, I missed this.

I seem to have walked into a discussion that I have not read the background to. I was merely agreeing with the poster that you, personally, have used guilt by association to align people with political parties. I have no idea what you are referring to by court cases and I won't be bothered reading this thread to work it out. I was responding to a notification.

Do you deny using tactics such as guilt by association, or 'getting into bed with' in the past because someone shares a macro level view on one issue even if when you drill into the details there is quite a different in the motivation, the direction and even the finer details of the broad level view?

When you have posted things like 'Posie Parker doesn’t need to cosy up to or get into bed with the far right...she’s perfectly capable of occupying the bed on her own' I wonder if there can be any other interpretation. But please, feel free to clarify that this is not you using tactics whereby you take one or even three very broadly shared views to falsely accuse someone of a particular political alignment.

That is a fair opinion statement that Posie Parker holds far right positions.

And it is also actually a statement that explicitly does not align her with others, as I said she doesn't need to align with other groups, she articulates her positions independently very well already.

JumpingPumpkin · 10/08/2025 09:02

The event happened yesterday. Unfortunately they couldn’t enjoy the room booked afterwards at Glasgow uni because the staff were upset by the women’s placards.

Refusal if service due to gender critical beliefs. Poor show Glasgow uni.

https://x.com/theposieparker/status/1954325173165080784?s=46

woollyhatter · 10/08/2025 09:11

Just trying to catch up with the relevant legal implications of the refusal of service. I understand that a licensed premises can ban people for reasons or no reason at all. They are not obliged to give one.

Am I right in thinking that the management’s mistake was to state the ban was due to the signs stating “upsetting” gender critical beliefs hence they were explicitly discriminating under the protected characteristic of belief, since GC beliefs are WORIADS.

This has implications for a couple of civil cases I can think of. Fascinating to see how this is tested.

As an aside, that was my union back in the day, so see that misogyny is still alive and kicking there but wearing a different outfit. Plus ça change.

Helleofabore · 10/08/2025 09:11

suggestionsplease1 · 10/08/2025 08:59

That is a fair opinion statement that Posie Parker holds far right positions.

And it is also actually a statement that explicitly does not align her with others, as I said she doesn't need to align with other groups, she articulates her positions independently very well already.

I don't believe that clarifies your post

'Posie Parker doesn’t need to cosy up to or get into bed with the far right...she’s perfectly capable of occupying the bed on her own.'

Like we have discussions quite regularly about your personal interpretations about written and verbal communications and data sets, you have your interpretations, and other people have theirs. I don't find your interpretation of those words really fits. But thanks for trying to defend your statement.

Here is the thread that I found that by the way. People might find it interesting to read as it is about Kellie Jay Keen also. Interesting to see how far we have come and yet seem to be stuck in the same conversations.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4767139-what-if-youre-all-wrong-about-kjk-even-her-own-security-have-serious-concerns?page=1

Considering how much time you, Suggestions, spend defending your personal interpretation, and in the past you have removed context from transcripts or clipped transcripts to better suit your own personal interpretation, I would consider it hypocritical to be threatening court action to others who use their own interpretations the same way you do.

Waitwhat23 · 10/08/2025 09:12

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 10/08/2025 08:43

Although it is frustrating that the man with the over loud PA keeps turning up and drowning out the voices of women, I think it's a bit of an own goal really. Your average passer by is going to see a group of normal mostly middle aged women, some holding common sense signs, being screamed at by teenagers with blue hair. People will draw their own conclusions.

When he stood in the street in Glasgow, screaming obscenities at the women from around the world were coming to attend FiLiA 2023, after unsuccessfully demanding that the venue cancel the event, he and his cronies showed the general public exactly why women should be allowed to speak.

suggestionsplease1 · 10/08/2025 09:17

Helleofabore · 10/08/2025 09:11

I don't believe that clarifies your post

'Posie Parker doesn’t need to cosy up to or get into bed with the far right...she’s perfectly capable of occupying the bed on her own.'

Like we have discussions quite regularly about your personal interpretations about written and verbal communications and data sets, you have your interpretations, and other people have theirs. I don't find your interpretation of those words really fits. But thanks for trying to defend your statement.

Here is the thread that I found that by the way. People might find it interesting to read as it is about Kellie Jay Keen also. Interesting to see how far we have come and yet seem to be stuck in the same conversations.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4767139-what-if-youre-all-wrong-about-kjk-even-her-own-security-have-serious-concerns?page=1

Considering how much time you, Suggestions, spend defending your personal interpretation, and in the past you have removed context from transcripts or clipped transcripts to better suit your own personal interpretation, I would consider it hypocritical to be threatening court action to others who use their own interpretations the same way you do.

I mean I don't need to spend much time defending my statement there, and I don't really understand why it is not clear to you, because it is pretty unambiguous that I am explicitly saying Posie Parker / Kellie-Jay Keen does not need to align with any other groups.

Anyone could look at content she has posted and fairly arrive at similar conclusions about her independently held positions.

This is very different from my own situation, where a complete fabrication about my political position has been posted, which no reasonable person could arrive at through reference to my posts.

Helleofabore · 10/08/2025 09:19

suggestionsplease1 · 10/08/2025 09:17

I mean I don't need to spend much time defending my statement there, and I don't really understand why it is not clear to you, because it is pretty unambiguous that I am explicitly saying Posie Parker / Kellie-Jay Keen does not need to align with any other groups.

Anyone could look at content she has posted and fairly arrive at similar conclusions about her independently held positions.

This is very different from my own situation, where a complete fabrication about my political position has been posted, which no reasonable person could arrive at through reference to my posts.

So you have never made an accusation that KJK was politically aligned with any far right group?

Waitwhat23 · 10/08/2025 09:19

Just trying to catch up with the relevant legal implications of the refusal of service. I understand that a licensed premises can ban people for reasons or no reason at all. They are not obliged to give one.

They can but are still bound by the EQA2010 so cannot discriminate against a customer because they fall under a protected characteristic, in this instance the category of belief -

www.milnerslaw.co.uk/can-i-choose-my-customers-the-right-to-refuse-service-in-uk-law/

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