M&S apologises over trans employee in bra department (Telegraph)

[WimbledonWhites]

How many “cis” male members of staff do you suppose would approach teenage girls in the lingerie department?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/04/ms-apologises-over-trans-employee-in-bra-department/

https://archive.ph/nTDB9archive.ph/nTDB9

It reminds me of the male “breastfeeding mum” causally featured in an ITV programme about the cost of living.

Would you employ a man to work in the woman's lingerie section?

LOOK AGAIN

Instead of claiming you have more knowledge of the situation than others, go and do your research.

Apparently Reddit during the Sandie Peggie case was a nasty place to be too.

I wouldn’t go anywhere near it
It does suggest they are all worried after the SC ruling. The Stonewall wall is crashing down

< rubs hands in delight >

You clearly haven't done safeguarding training.

You could be in the middle of a very crowded room surrounded by people and still fail safeguarding by asking an inappropriate question. Its actually troubling you have comprehension fail on this.

You demonstrate you don't understand safeguarding by making a comparison between when you worked in retail banking and working in a lingerie department. I take it you regularly were asking teenage girls about their bra size whilst you worked in the bank....

As it was, this is a lone teen, being asked about underwear. The fact its a public place is irrelevant and a red herring in this scenario.

Operation Let Them Speak is amazing. Men can approach children buying bras because a former retail banker doesn't think there's a safeguarding issue. Because the banks have kept the world so secure financially, they should definitely be the arbiters of safeguarding this one.

In fact, if you claim to have just looked through this thread to find the information, you have again shown you are not prepared to do the work.

The points you keep raising have been addressed time and time again. Even directly to you.

I suggest you actually READ the fucking thread not skim it.

Well I won't stop you calling yourself an idiot for failing to understand safeguarding. Those are your words not mine.

Perhaps you should do a course and educate yourself.

BEHOLD A BANKER HAS ARRIVED.

It is outstanding, isn't it?

Flawed comparisons, after flawed misinformation, after flawed logic. It just keeps on coming.

Maybe they only identified as a banker....and got one letter confused.

It’s creeps all the way down.

Honestly I think they’re enjoying the complete wind up. No one can be this dense.

I wouldn’t feed the desire. It’s similar to men being in the women’s bra section.

It reminds me of this.

They could be single handedly posting.

C’mon Victoria in the Independent (who gets schooled by her teenage daughter on pronouns) thinks everyone is just being nasty meanies. Teach girls to have no boundaries sorry I meant teach them to unpick their discomfort or something like that!

https://x.com/journalismseen/status/1953076463160148002?s=46&t=ZX_bLozRqm8etdGICMcAvA

I'm still tittering that its a 'banker' telling us this tbh!

We should all take the word of a merchant banker me old chinas.

I know.

Because I have years in retail banking AND years working in retail .... I am rather gobsmacked that someone can pull that one out.

Also, I never once saw a banker 'walk the floor' dealing with enquiries. That would be actually breach most privacy aspects of banking that there are known.

There are information counters for a reason.

Your faux confusion isn’t fooling anybody Lun82. The points about safeguarding & the inappropriateness of a man deciding to approach a lone child in the lingerie section have been well made, repeatedly, on this thread.

I’m glad you recognised yourself as a scolder, but here we are again, talking about the only point you seem interested in. It makes me wonder if the ‘Me? Who? Little old me?’ affectation is what passes for being ‘womanly’ in some parts.

For the benefit of @Mt563 and @Lun82

Girls’ experiences with their first bra-
boys asking if they are wearing one/why are they wearing one/why they aren’t wearing one.
boys twanging the strap when they notice you are wearing one.
wrestling with the fucking clasp behind your back after PE and hoping to god it’s a friend who helps, not a frenemy.

Experiences girls do not need with their bra-
points 1 and 2 above and also Men asking if they need help with it.

Men should not ever discuss bras with women unless they are in an intimate relationship with them.

The word ‘pander’ has wonderful connotations.

I will repeat what I posted above - let's put this back into clear English:

Man dresses as a woman, leaves the floor he is supposed to be working on to go down to the lingerie department where he approaches a young girl to talk to her about underwear - but retreats when he discovers the mother is with her

How can you not see all the things wrong with that?

• No self-respecting man would be looking to have conversations with women about intimate matters in that way
• Leaving where they were allocated shows intent esp. as they had to go down a floor
• Approaching a young girl (who will be more vulnerable esp. to a 6'2" man) = choosing the victim specifically
• Retreating when he discovered the mother there - if it was totally innocent and above board then he would not have had to retreat, but clearly his intentions were ones he did not wish to carry out with the mother there
• That a man has these intentions / plans / carries it out shows an inappropriate choice of action. That he also dresses as a woman first is of extra concern as that would suggest grooming - hoping to lull the child into a false sense of security.

There is absolutely nothing defendable about this situation.

I wouldn't have posted that as while true, certain posters might enjoy it more than they should....

Further advice for the dull witted-

Is it ok to talk about underwear to unaccompanied children that you don’t know if you are
a shop assistant? NO
in a busy place? NO
in a quiet place? NO

No. Just don’t. Frankly don’t talk to unaccompanied children about anything.

You are a walking red flag.