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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Is it hateful to say humans can’t change sex?

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1971feminist · 01/08/2025 21:59

In a landmark hearing at the NZ Human Rights Review Tribunal, the question of whether it is hateful and harmful to say that men can’t be lesbians is under scrutiny. Read more about it here https://open.substack.com/pub/resistgendereducation/p/is-it-hateful-to-say-humans-cant?r=24091f&utm_medium=ios

Is it hateful to say humans can't change sex?

This question is currently under scrutiny at the Human Rights Review Tribunal in Wellington, NZ.

https://resistgendereducation.substack.com/p/is-it-hateful-to-say-humans-cant?r=24091f&triedRedirect=true

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NHSFifeStatementFinalFINALFinalVersionV9FINAL · 04/08/2025 17:54

One of the things I questioned when I really started to think about trans stuff is why does 'gender' have to 'match' biological sex? What does it even MEAN for gender to 'match' sex? It is that if you are female you must behave and think in a feminine way, and if you are male you must behave and think in a masculine way (depending on the social construct of masculine and feminine?)

What's shocked me is the amount of people for whom 'female', as in actual sex, and 'feminine', as in cultural/social attributes, are so closely intertwined and conflated they are literally unable to see them as different things. To them, being physically female means in all cases being feminine, and being feminine means in all cases being physically female. They use the words interchangeably and really need it spelling out that they mean quite different things.

Helleofabore · 04/08/2025 18:10

Maybe this is appropriate here.

https://x.com/knownheretic/status/1952395423500689908?s=46

Argument takedown: “But sex and gender are different.”

1. I don’t care.

2. Gender has always been a regressive projection of roles used to control women.

3. The word woman is taken. Women need this word to speak of our physical circumstances and advocate for our needs politically.

4. Our foremothers fought for spaces and sports for our bodies, not to have identity spaces or identity based sports.

https://x.com/knownheretic/status/1952395423500689908?s=46

NHSFifeStatementFinalFINALFinalVersionV9FINAL · 04/08/2025 18:14

Argument takedown: “But sex and gender are different.”

Fine. Then single-sex, mixed-gender spaces shouldn't be a problem, and people changing their gender won't be changing anything about their physical sex.

TheKeatingFive · 04/08/2025 18:41

NHSFifeStatementFinalFINALFinalVersionV9FINAL · 04/08/2025 18:14

Argument takedown: “But sex and gender are different.”

Fine. Then single-sex, mixed-gender spaces shouldn't be a problem, and people changing their gender won't be changing anything about their physical sex.

Exactly. What relevance does 'gender' have to single sex spaces or services then? Zero surely.

Whatisthisdamnednonsense · 04/08/2025 19:27

NHSFifeStatementFinalFINALFinalVersionV9FINAL · 04/08/2025 17:54

One of the things I questioned when I really started to think about trans stuff is why does 'gender' have to 'match' biological sex? What does it even MEAN for gender to 'match' sex? It is that if you are female you must behave and think in a feminine way, and if you are male you must behave and think in a masculine way (depending on the social construct of masculine and feminine?)

What's shocked me is the amount of people for whom 'female', as in actual sex, and 'feminine', as in cultural/social attributes, are so closely intertwined and conflated they are literally unable to see them as different things. To them, being physically female means in all cases being feminine, and being feminine means in all cases being physically female. They use the words interchangeably and really need it spelling out that they mean quite different things.

What’s struck me over the past few years is how thick some people are. Sometimes the thickness is feigned, sometimes not.

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