Transwomen and transmen do not have DSDs - discuss

[NextRinny]

I postulate that:
With the same proportion as in the general population, the group of people who identify as trans do not have any biological defect in their sexual development pathway.

Well quite.
And another question is, if there are various genuine sexed differences in the brain structures/responses (eg, perhaps, the amygdala) would a man who showed the sort of variation postulated as being related to various forms of ND / ‘gender identity’ or whatever typically still have the male-type for those features or not?

Pretty obviously I’m thinking about the clear observation that there’s strong sexed difference in levels of violence and sexual crimes which does not seem to be mitigated by gender identity.

I asked a question and why I'm seeing this a lot lately.

Trans people with a GRC can get a new registration on the Gender Recognition Register which is identical to their original birth registration but with an altered name and sex marker (the original registration continues to exist on the main register).

Someone with a DSD which has caused their sex to be wrongly recorded can get the original birth registration corrected by a marginal annotation of the main register.

So they are treated by the law as mutually exclusive.

I was actually thinking of starting a similar thread, good thing I checked first. I've been irritated by the suggestion - by doctors who should know better - that they somehow dont know their own sex when they are old enough to have either gone through puberty or had investigations to see why they havent gone through puberty. The idea that adults in a developed country cant say what sex they are deserves all the ridicule it has attracted,

This is an article that talks about the various types of dsds and discusses treatments. It might be helpful for doctors who get their dsds confused and/or forget the names when giving evidence in court. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2451965020300545

i think it’s just the way it’s said that’s she’s making fun of 😄

Exactly. They’re still not women.

Also, the only way you can be GD is socialisation. And believing in gender stereotypes (which don’t even hold true anyway). Otherwise how would you even get it?

I believe the Swedish gender clinics tested the chromosomes of all their gender dysphoric patients for the first 20 years.

Finally someone analysed the data, which showed that the incidence of DSDs in trans identified people was exactly the same as in the non trans population (exactly the same finding as the more recent Australian research linked above) and the decision was made to stop doing the tests since they were a waste of money.

Regular reminder that people with VSDs do not wish to be weaponised or used as shields, dehumanising hypotheticals, nor rhetorical devices.

Claire Graham:
Here’s the thing…the judge goes out of his way to talk about the need for dignity for trans people. It’s important, we’re told, that we all pretend that the categories of male and female are nebulous and unimportant. That the feeling in someone’s head should override reality for the rest of us. That we all pretend that because someone doesn’t like the sexist stereotypes associated with their birth sex that they can actually be the opposite sex, and we must all accept this about them too, despite what our senses tell us. The vehicle used to achieve this is, as ever, DSDs.
Where’s the dignity for people with DSDs in all of this, as our complex and often emotionally difficult medical conditions are trotted out and prodded by the ignorant, discussed with morbid fascination by people who have no idea about the reality of them? Who gives a shit about what is being done to us?

https://mrkhvoice.com/index.php/2019/12/18/what-is-dignity/