The Bluestocking - holding the line and losing the thread

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All women welcome, pull up a pygmy hog, the bargerbil will serve you a drink, the flying squirrels will bring you something to read and the goats will do...I'm not entirely sure.

There may be more than the usual amount of chaos as we transition to the new thread.

I'm tempted to quote Ben Cooper😊.

Hello Anactor, I haven't seen your name here before - unless it's a change-of-name? I used to bound up to newcomers like an over-enthusiastic labrador to welcome them to the Bluestocking, but I'm a bit more wary having bounded up to regulars who've been here far longer than I have, and have changed their names🙃

So tentatively - a warm welcome to the Bluestocking, Anactor, and I hope the gerbils have brought you your drink of choice. Or a large slice of your fave cake. Or both. Anything goes here, and of course there are no inconveniences like calories or gluten in our goodies.

I see Nasturtiums is in da house too - not a newby but not here very often, so nice to see you again

I have worrries that the good doctor has allegedly made changes to notes and that will be the "reason" NHS Fife loses. The TRAs will say "bad apple", NHSF will agree and say they did nothing wrong, and though Sandie will win, it will be spun that NHSF did nothing wrong (even when the tribunal finds against them).

I will elucidate more when I have slept.

YouTube thought i would want to see this. I don't know if they're hysterical or horrifying

My vote is: horrifying! Apart from a very squarish elephant which was fun, it's all a bit Hieronymus Bosch😱

It's all a bit quiet today, isn't it? I think we are overwhelmed by the tribunal, the thought that it's going to go on .. on and on next week bodes ill for the tidiness of my house, and progress on the permanent Bluestocking..

I'm waiting for the third batch of human figures - the acceptable face of female model railway figures! Obviously they are not in demand as they have to be ordered in specially for me.

The human figures will feature in the Grand Opening - I was hoping to get A Leading Barrister or a Famous Author and Women's Rights Defender to cut the ribbon , but neither exists in 1:48 O scale, for some reason..

Myrtle, I think NHSF will spin it as 'lost on a teeny weeny technicality but we did nothing wrong' whatever happens.
The result of the internal investigation into SP is the template: we can't prove she did anything wrong, but she just is wrong, so we'll make her 'reflect' on how she is wrong without actually doing anything wrong..🙄

Bit of both is my vote on that YouTube video.

I'm still jetlagged, it turns out. Thought I'd recovered and then slept until nearly 1 pm today! However, I am caught up on the washing and have nearly finished putting everything away, so I don't feel too guilty.

The b&w cat at around the 1 min mark is hilarious. I'd forgotten that my kids would put a smiley mouth on a bird's head, in addition to the beak. Looked sweet in their drawings. Real life though...not so much.

I just hope I haven't released a bunch of them round the Bluestocking. Worse than Androids creations or though AI might give them a run for their money.

Meanwhile in Ireland the late summer/early harvest season described by the folklorist Máire MacNeill as the Festival of Lughnasa has started. People are going on mountain pigrimages and berry picking expeditions, to seashore horse races, and praying at ancient holy wells.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lughnasadh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A1ire_MacNeill

No exact date or location, but bluestockingers' intentions, particularly those of Swashy and family, were remembered here by me. People have taken their troubles there, usually alone, usually in silence, for at least a millennium and a half. It has an extraordinary atmosphere.

I'm voting "bit of both" too. I'm particularly enamoured of the cats though.

They gave me the horrors. When I was at primary school I read a story by Enid Blyton (which means I was under 7, because the Junior School subscribed to the theory of the time that Blyton was BAD) about a boy who never finished his drawings, and met all the people he'd drawn, sans arms, sans legs, sans faces, and they all blamed him for his laziness causing them such suffering.

It always haunted me. Maybe the theory of the time had something going for it.

That's lovely Deano, it's great that we are going back to the old places that were sacred and special in many ways to many different people for thousands of years.
Many's the grieving mother has sought solace there over the millennia, so it was nice that you remembered dear Swash there

Sorry, but this really made me laugh!

Blooming Enid- however she was well known for not liking children so maybe this was her "ha ha, take that" moment!

Altering the notes is a very serious matter, and certainly if I ever encounter DrU in a medical context I will request a different doctor for that reason alone.

But it’s easy to see that the TRAs will say, the single sex spaces stuff doesn’t matter, NHS Fife lost because (s)he’s a bad doctor. Had the notes not existed, or not been altered, the focus would be on the conduct and the “right” to use the women’s changing room.

I do think it more likely that DU will be found to have harassed SP as a result of the alterations that make SP seem a danger to patients, but, just as the TRAs are claiming to be biological women, and the SC ruling doesn’t count until the EHRC guidance comes out, and then that will be ignored and challenged, they will spin the outcome as a bad apple doctor and not that he had no right to be there in the first place.

I almost wish the notes hadn’t been altered or existed in the first place.

idk…it seems to me that even apart from Upton, various others have ganged up on Sandie, spread unsubstantiated rumours etc etc

I thought that YouTube vid was hilarious, Cake. But I am hardened to children's drawings from years in a primary school admiring various mutant giraffes and 5-legged cows.

My feelings about Upton are hard to convey without being really rather rude, but I will try.

1. He comes over as lacking the sort of sympathy and compassion that I would expect of someone in a caring profession (and yeah, I know that far too many doctors are like this...)
2. Running weeping into the car park and sobbing all over a colleague don't indicate the kind of mental stability you'd hope to find in someone working in A&E.
3. Anyone who sincerely uses the term 'sad times' when over the age of 13 looks as if... well, as if they have the emotional maturity of a 13 year old.
4. Anyone who works in medicine, where you will see people dying, or being told that they have a life-changing injury, or require a kidney transplant, or whatever, and uses 'sad times' of not getting on with a colleague, needs to be given a large set of grips.

I'm not sure what is going with selection for med school these days. One of the DC had a friend who went off to med school but who (to my unqualified eye) had an awful lot of issues that weren't going to be compatible with dealing with blood, guts, abusive drunks, screaming toddlers, genuinely sad events, and a huge workload: just didn't seem to have the grit, common sense and resilience. Said friend lasted a couple of years and then flunked out.

ETA: Maybe I'm not a very nice person...!

My son spent 5 years being a "pretend patient" for learner doctors and said he was stunned at the lack of maturity of so many of them.

I agree 100% with every single word of that, @EdithStourton!

I’m watching the final stage of the Tour de France, where they are going up Montmartre to Sacre Coeur three times before the stage finally finishes on the Champs Elysees. I’m also trying to find the motivation to knit - I’ve done some but now it’s sitting on the side, looking accusingly at me.

We’ve had DD home for the weekend, a bit of a flying visit but lovely to see her. We’ve been out for the day to an NT property about an hour south of here so her journey home wasn’t quite so long

If Sandie wins they may seize on a tiny detail in the judgement that they will claim shows they didn't really, in a deeply technical sense, lose. They'll definitely some sort of attempt at spin. I think the tras will have Upton's witnesses, his supporters, shouldering the blame. He'll be the victim. They're always somehow the victims. I hope those other Doctors, consultants and the rest beclowning themselves aren't expecting gratitude.

I find myself wondering about his upbringing. I tried to raise my kids to be mindful of other people's feelings.

Someone said all the 'sad times' reminded them of Adrian Mole and I thought
ye-es but not quite. Then someone else mentioned Trump, and that was it. Just like his tweets.

I keep going back in my mind to Freud and the Oedipus complex. Every aggressive obnoxious man boy i have ever come across, and every account from a victim of DV and sexual violence, seems to highlight some failure or other on the part of the mother, or lack of (died left, emotionally absent, over indulgent) but by the same token idealise mothers, often sexually

And just to caveat these mothers appear to be engaged in parenting relationships with males that disabled, there natural instincts, as mothers, and had mothers themselves, that inflicted a boy centred view of the world.

This is not to say that all males are like this or all mothers.

it is for me a conundrum.

I find myself wondering about his upbringing. I tried to raise my kids to be mindful of other people's feelings.
Me too, Cake, on both counts.

Re Upton's 'contemporaneous notes', which read nothing like contemporaneous notes, they read more like Adrian Mole's diary, as somebody pointed out.

I thought they sounded like the plot of the 1970 French Film, Claire's Knee, and when I googled it to check the date, I found the synopsis of the plot of the film and it was eerily similar....

Jérôme tells Claire that he saw her boyfriend, Gilles, together with another girl, Muriel. When Claire starts to cry Jérôme consoles her by placing his hand upon Claire's knee. Jérôme later delightedly tells Aurora that it had taken him great courage to touch Claire's knee and that doing so has exorcised his desire of her from him. Gilles returns and tries to give Claire excuses as to why he was with Muriel. We're all chatting. ..
Sandie comes in, chats a bit to Fiona. I think this is weird, as Sandie hates being in the changing room with me, but whatever Shwayts leaves. I go to the bathroom. Fiona leaves. Leave toilet, and she's still hovering. Rihanna asked Sandy of any concerns. Were both in front of me. Sandy didn't look at or otherwise engage with me. Responded. She had no concerns. I said, thanks. I needed to know for the letter, she did not acknowledge Me, either through words or eye contact...

Uncanny, isn't it?😁

I don't mind badgers myself, but I'd be slightly nervous around their Down Under equivalents.

Yeah, I noticed that reality was bleeding into the Bluestocking but then I was served a perfectly chilled glass of Mersault and some slightly salted green olives and my parareality was restored.

@JanesLittleGirl sorry i just feel parking thoughts here is the best option sometimes