Council being sued for transflag crossings

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Apologies if there's already a thread but I've not found one

https://archive.ph/dCRzW

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/06/camden-council-pedestrian-crossing-legal-action/

'Unlawful political messaging'. Is this a thing? If it is and the complainant wins then it could have a wider implications regarding flag flying, possibly even pin badges and lanyards.

I did indulged in a small eyeroll at this statement from the Council

A spokesman added: “Camden is ‘no place for hate’ and we have a strong and continuing history of respect and support for everyone in our borough. We fight discrimination in all its forms, and this includes being an ally to our trans residents.

'Everyone'!? Clearly not the complainant or anyone else who doesn't buy into this divisive ideology. But, the statement implies those people are hateful.

Did...did I scoop the Telegraph?

https://archive.ph/NvJ3F

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/29/council-removes-st-george-flags-paints-pride-zebra-crossing/

Stand Up To Racism Portsmouth has accused those behind the flags of “trying to colonise our public spaces”.
“This isn’t about celebrating anything, it’s about the far Right trying to colonise our public spaces, which should be as inclusive and multicultural as modern Britain actually is,” the group said.

Your regular reminder that "Stand Up To Racism" is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Socialist Workers Party, best known for covering up the rape of young female members by party leaders.

It's like having our trade unions fund an anti-racism campaign led by PIE.

Perhaps someone should paint a George's cross over the trans flags - would make it more obvious that they'll remove "road art" they disapprove off.

Agree that road markings should be standard though.

Road Markings ARE standardised and have been for decades.

The issue is that these Rainbow Paint Jobs are considered 'not road markings' even though vehicles drive over them. So when people complained they were told 'That's not a Road Marking' in Jedi style manoevres.

From the Telegraph article

A spokesman for the council said: “There are national traffic regulations which govern markings on a public highway, in the interests of public safety. The council has a legal duty to comply with these regulations.

That's blackbelt bollocksfu that is.

An interesting point.

Councils complaining about spending thousands to clean up one type of flag and spending thousands to paint another type of flag, both unlawful?

Ssshhh, your not allowed to mention the double standard.

Trans issues need to be kept well away from roads, all those people confused about which side they are on is bound to lead to a car crash.

As has been said, It will interesting to see what happens if there is ever an accident on one of these crossings.
Not only are they not legal crossing (see up thread) but they also do not meet the safety standards for crossings.

Ridiculous. This really illustrates how navel-gazing/self-centred the TRA are, and by extension their allies. They assume that everything and everyone is centered on them, either supporting them or opposing them. Why would anyone at Camden Council assume that people would (a) know what those colours mean and/or (b) that they are painted on a legitimate pedestrian crossing that even though it doesn't look like it, it is still a pedestrian crossing, because they are a special form of protest and are allowed because of that, when no other form of protest would be at that site? London is full of all sorts of people, local and international. A great many of them wouldn't give a toss/wouldn't have heard about "trans" issues and would, as PP have said, have no idea what was going on here.

Protest against real genocide? Run the risk of arrest. Virtue signal on behalf of the "victims" of an entirely fake "genocide"? Let's confuse the traffic so you can feel stunning and brave. Ugh. I am actually glad I don't live in Camden any more.

There was an article about one of the South Coast councils removing there adhoc flags to protect their staff. Completely overlooking that they fly the same flags on the town hall.

I've been out today. I've seen so many road signs obscured with scribbly graffiti, bushes, algae and several that are literally in pieces with bits missing. I refuse to believe that it's a priority to obscure red paint on a roundabout rather than fixing the signs that actually are difficult to read, that arguably are a hazard to drivers.

I saw many cars that had the cross of St George on their registration plate and pedestrians carrying shopping bags decorated with the Union flag!

I'm not a fan of ostentatious flag flying, or ostentatious virtue signalling.

There was an article about one of the South Coast councils removing there adhoc flags to protect their staff. Completely overlooking that they fly the same flags on the town hall.

I've been out today. I've seen so many road signs obscured with scribbly graffiti, bushes, algae and several that are literally in pieces with bits missing. I refuse to believe that it's a priority to obscure red paint on a roundabout rather than fixing the signs that actually are difficult to read, that arguably are a hazard to drivers.

I saw many cars that had the cross of St George on their registration plate and pedestrians carrying shopping bags decorated with the Union flag!

I'm not a fan of ostentatious flag flying, or ostentatious virtue signalling.

Trampling a flag is generally considered to be a sign of hatred for what or who the flag represents.

Queer choice, to invite everybody to trample your flag.

Weirdly although I'm not at all a fan of the trans flag I realise it's important to other people and I'd feel very odd walking on it.

Weirdly although I'm not at all a fan of the trans flag I realise it's important to other people and I'd feel very odd walking on it.

Eta MN has gifted me with twins!

Just realised two sets of twins!

As I driver I wouldn't know the rules regarding that ridiculous crossing. Do I give pedestrians right of way, is it a real crossing, is it decorative? It's completley insane that they are putting people's safety at risk for a political message.

Purely decorative. You have right of way as you would on any unmarked stretch of road. Of course a pedestrian may not realise that and step out in front of you….

And if a pedestrian did step out, you might find the lack of proper road paint impacts your ability to stop…

Yes, completely mad and a triumph of ideology and individualism over rules and safety. No surprise there though, other people's safety is not something in the forefront of any TRAs mind, is it?

There is also a pelican crossing there, though, so the message is very mixed. Here is something that looks like a pedestrian crossing but also has some special colours attached to it, the meaning of which is not indicated or known...Enough to cause hesitation and confusion, which on a road could be very dangerous. There are thousands of tourists in Camden. How are they supposed to interpret this? Even if Londoners are on the whole quite exposed to this bollocks and so might well twig, why would Doug from Arkansas or Li from China know what it means?

The objection is on the grounds that those of us with sight problems can't see the fucking crossing.

That’s brilliant! What do you call a traffic light that’s blue pink and white, not a traffic signal, a virtue signal!
or something - definitely a cartoon in there somewhere!