Wow. Have you seen all the Pride and Trans flags flying in the audiences at Glastonbury?

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No. Neither have I.

Yes I would expect a lockable toilet cubical, a lockable changing room cubical, privacy when naked under any situation other than a nudist beach. And for me those apply around other women too. If I'm in hospital in a mixed sex ward it wouldnt be ideal but my ideal would be my own private room which is unlikely on NHS. We have mixed sex changing at our local pool and I've never heard anyone where I live talk about it negatively or wanting to start a campaign against it.

Of course it is hence lockable doors on toilets etc.

All that has been covered since I started posting I'm not going to repeat it all

I mean that in the same way I say I'm not scared of men. I'll be scared in certain situations but I'm not scared of a gender of people.

While Eagle could be an AI bot, on reading their more recent posts, I can't help but wonder if we are being treated to a display of be kind I'm all right Jack (and therefore, I am going to dismiss everything you say as irrelevant).

Thinking about it, I'd much rather be led by a donkey than led by a lion. If you were led by a lion you'd be standing around for 23 hours and 45 minutes of the day while she had a good sleep, followed by a rather hairy and gory 15 minutes of holding on for dear life as she chased down a zebra (or, in a UK context, possibly your neighbour's Labrador). Donkeys are quite steady and patient and probably pretty decent at following trails and things. They'd also give you a lift when you got knackered.

I don't think they've thought the name through.

Transwomen are male, though, every single one of them - by definition.

I'm not generally scared of men, either.....but I don't want to get changed around strange men, nor do I want to find them in female only facilities, and i don't want for my daughter or grandaughter to have to be compromised in that way, either.

Good, decent men stay out of women's private spaces; it is the ones who keep pushing and insisting in spite of being told " No"...that are the problem.

Now imagine a corridor of such cubicles in the night time economy.....and a young woman goes in there and finds she's alone.....and then a couple of men enter. You do know that such spaces are where women can be very vulnerable.

Unisex facilities need to be single rooms ( not just cubicles) with integral basins - not a communal facility with a shared acess area. I want to be able to send my granddaughter into the toilets when out in public, without having to be concerned about who might be in there with her.

Surely you understand this?

They can set up their own specific crisis centres. Like women had to.

Yes if you think that all transgender women are rapists or paedohphiles then I can imagine you would be scared for her. And yes a row of toilets at night time when your alone with two men entering could potentially be alarming depending on the men. But we do have separate male and female toilets and I can't see that changing. If two men want to walk into female toilets at night time there is nothing stopping them.

Well currently there are centres that help both men and women under the one roof. Anyone in there needs help. Dont know why the transgender issue would change that.

Yes I wouldnt want to get changed around men either. Particularly strange ones as you call them. But I'm like that with non trans women so I use lockable cubicles.

In my local leisure centre there are fairly regular problems with men taking photos of children getting changed/in the showers, and of men trying to film or spy on women and children in the cubicles.

This likely happens at yours too, but you are so busy patting yourself on the back for being The Best Person you’ve not noticed the regular warnings going out to to use your phone in the changing room or telling parents to watch out for “people” (and thanks for that obscuring language you’ve foisted on us) lurking around the showers.

So thanks for your tolerance of that while preening over how “kind” you are. We all see you.

Somebody's empathy bypass operation was a complete success.

Regular? And where is this shit hole you live?

what an apposite cross post

chef's kiss on the empathy black hole @Eagle2025 . top work

Pa ha ha!!

You do come across as quite lesbophobic. And homophobic. And misogynistic. Did you mean to sound so rude?

You obviously haven't read my posts.

I have

and you come across as a massive homophobe

Explain

Near you, evidently.

Why is this chessboard covered in pigeon shit?

Back on topic, I've seen far less pride stuff in the shops this year too. Barely anything in my local Tesco, though there was a section in the free magazine they do, featuring a very brave gay man working for gay rights in Africa, and two trans people, one man and one woman.

How mature well done

I must say, watching Eagle go from high-handed finger-wagging to utterly losing it has been enjoyable, if a little repetitive.