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Gems from the Trans Legal Project response to EHRC consultation

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MyAmpleSheep · 22/06/2025 16:55

The Trans Legal Project's response to the open EHRC consultation is available here:
https://www.translegalproject.org/blog-1

I was going to write a more detailed critique of it, but realized that working through what seem to me to be all of the legal errors contained in it would about a weeks's work.

If this is tldr for you, then don't worry - you have nothing to fear from this organisation's response.

Here are some gems though (TLP text in bold, my comments underneath.)

Use of the term biological sex is confusing.
Uh, no, no it isn't.

What happens if the individual refuses to confirm their birth sex?
Then you don't have to let them in; same as if they refuse to tell you their name or age, if those are relevant and required to provide the service.

What happens if an individual does not know their birth sex (e.g. they are intersex)?
People with DSD's know their biological sex, even if they later turn out to be mistaken. An honest mistake as to one's biological sex is exculpatory for using the wrong service. If any person is not sure, then they can take the trouble to find out.

How does a service provider determine the individual has answered objectively falsely if the individual has made a full medical and legal transition?
There's no such thing as a "full" medical transition, but if someone lies about their biological sex then they're just lying liars who lie. Just like someone who lies about their age, or other relevant condition of entry. Just because some people are lying liars, it doesn't invalidate the idea of responsibly confirming that your service is being used by the correct people.

What about trans people who “pass”? Based on this example those trans people who “pass” are permitted to use single-sex services
No, they're really not. If a "passing" trans person sneaks into a service for someone not of their biological sex, they're lying liars who lie, and shouldn't be there. No further consequences flow. See my previous point.

Following FWS, anyone who experiences sexual attraction is now bisexual.
This is too stupid to comment on further.

There needs to be a new example showing that trans women who breastfeed are protected by the pregnancy and maternity protections on the basis of case law.
Trans women can't breastfeed in the correct sense of the term.

First, a women’s group can choose to admit cisgender and transgender women. It is not direct sex discrimination as individuals of both legal sexes are admitted.
It is direct sex discrimination. A group that allows in all white people and only black people who shave their heads is still directly discriminating on the grounds of race, even though some black people are admitted. Similarly, a single token Irish person in your service is not a failsafe talisman to prove you're incapable of unlawful discrimination against Irish people (nationality).

Third, although single legal sex women’s organisations are possible in law, they are impossible in practice. The reason is that if the association does not check the birth sex of everyone who joins, they risk allowing a trans woman to join and losing the protection of the single-characteristic exception.
No, they're really not impossible in practice. If an organization confirms prior to membership with an applicant that their biological sex is female, and takes reasonable steps to confirm this, then its protection against a claim for unlawful discrimination is not diminished by the fraudulent membership of lying people who lie.

There should also be an example that it is unlawful when a single-sex women’s association tries to restrict membership to only same-sex attracted people as only single-sex characteristic associations are allowed. There seems to be a belief that lesbian only associations are lawful under the EA 2010; they are not.
Explicitly, associations for members who share more than one protected characteristic are permitted. That someone in authority could write that lesbian-only associations are unlawful under the EA2010 is quite ... surprising.

Many trans men take testosterone and pound for pound are as strong as cisgender men. Concerns about the safety of trans men taking part are misfounded and transphobic.
If a sporting body is unworried about the safety of women entering men's sport, they can permit them to do so, and it would be called a mixed category. Nobody is suggesting that's unlawful.

Trans women who play women’s sport these days tend to have to meet strict eligibility requirements. They are unlikely to have a significant advantage. If they do, it will be almost impossible to prove they have the advantage because they are trans.
They have a significant advantage not because they are trans but because they are men.

A domestic violence support group set up separately for men and women under sched. 3 para. 26(2). is being setup on the basis of bio-segregation. But trans men and women would not be able to attend the group for their lived sex due to the operation of the law and it would be completely inappropriate in practice for them to attend the group matching their birth sex. Indeed, if they were permitted to attend groups matching their birth sex the rational for separate sex groups would be undermined and para. 26 would not apply. As a result, trans people would be completely excluded from the service. Completely excluding trans people from the service would not be proportionate so para. 26 could not apply.

Completely excluding trans people from a service could absolutely be proportionate, if to include them in the service provided for either sex would make that service insufficiently effective, and providing a separate service for trans people is impractical (such as insufficient numbers for a group service.) For the same reason that a women's refuge service is not also obliged to provide a parallel men's refuge service. Schedule 3 para 28 explicitly permits a service provider to discriminate against gender-reassigned people in the context of single- and seperate-sex services, if a proportionate means to a legitimate purpose.

Trans women have been placed in women’s hospitals wards for over 50 years without issue. Further, every year thousands of cisgender men are placed in women’s wards due to pressure on the NHS. As a result, excluding all trans women from a women’s ward is not proportionate and the sched. 3 para. 27 exception cannot be used.
Excluding all "trans women" from a women's ward is explicit in the meaning of a women's ward. Historical failure correctly to place patients in single-sex wards doesn't excuse the practice.

The example should explain that a bio-segregated hospital ward is unlawful and instead a trans inclusive women’s ward should be operated instead.
I make no further comment on the claim that a single-sex ward is illegal.

. Gyms, changing rooms and hospital wards are not examples where a bio-segregated service is lawful.
Again, no further comment from me on the proposition that single-sex changing rooms are illegal.

First, this example stereotypes all Muslim women as being hostile to trans women and as such is racist. There are many varied Muslim communities, only some of which have transphobic views.
Objecting to a male person in a female changing room is not demonstrating hostility. To suggest that "only some" Muslim communities have transphobic views appears to be engaging in the same racism the author imagines in the EHRC text.

Imagine a trans man who has fully transitioned and is every inch a man.
Except the inches that count, eh? Nudge nudge, wink wink...

There's a lot more on the single-sex services section which mostly consists of repeating the same points (not unreasonably, given the way the consultation is structured) but I don't feel like typing out the comments again and again, and this post is already too long.

As I said, I don't think we have too much to worry about from this organisation's submission.

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MarieDeGournay · 23/06/2025 15:56

PlanetJanette · 23/06/2025 15:14

Well, I was describing facilities that existed before the Supreme Court ruling. Are you denying that there were lots of venues that accepted trans women using the women's bathrooms and trans men using the men's bathrooms?

Because if so, I suggest you look back on this forum where you couldn't move for people hopped up on hate against various theatres for having trans inclusive policies.

As for whether venues will opt to retain those policies, they can lawfully choose to do so. I agree that the Supreme Court means that they are not compelled to do so.

No-one is denying that 'lots of venues .. accepted trans women using the women's bathrooms and trans men using the men's bathrooms' before the SC ruling - you must be American, on this side of the Atlantic they are called 'toilets', not 'bathrooms'.

Some venues accepted it, but lots of women most definitely did NOT accept it.

It's interesting how you describe women expressing their objections to the removal of long-established single-sex toilet provision as 'you couldn't move for people hopped up on hate '.
Why do you think we were motivated by hate? That's an extraordinary word to use about perfectly reasonable opinions - which were later vindicated by the SC, as it happens.

I do not think there is a legal duty to provide single sex services for the most part (workplaces and new buildings aside).
First of all, 'workplaces and new buildings' are a pretty big category to put to one side in brackets. And building regs also apply to alterations to existing buildings, e.g. changing toilet configuration so that's another category in your set-aside parenthesis.

Secondly, I just don't think you are right about the legal duty to provide single sex services, unless we are debating the word 'legal' as opposed to 'regulatory' and the word 'sex' as opposed to 'gender', in which caseConfused

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 23/06/2025 15:58

SqueakyDinosaur · 23/06/2025 13:18

Do we know who the members of the TLP are? I realise I've been assuming that S. Whittle is one of them, but I don't think I have any evidence of that.

It is linked to an organisation called "Trans Legal Clinic"

The Trans Legal Clinic is a grassroots, trans-led legal clinic providing free and accessible legal support to trans people across the UK. We operate just like a law firm. Our highly specialist teams of volunteer caseworkers, overseen by our supervising solicitors take on real cases, for real clients, providing high quality, AdviceUK accredited advice, support and assistance. What makes us so different is who we serve, how we serve them, and why we exist.

Our solicitors & barristers are external, based at our partner firms and are contracted to act for our clients on a pro-bono basis, each overseeing a team of highly-specialist, in-house caseworkers in Housing and Homelessness, Discrimination, Gender Based Violence and Gender Recognition. Our partner solicitors bring allyship, a commitment to access to justice and, most importantly, the law! We bring our highly-specialist, accredited-training, the man-power needed to deliver individual, high quality legal interventions on a large scale! Together, we demand equity.

More info here:

https://www.translegalclinic.com/about-us

About Us | Trans Legal Clinic

https://www.translegalclinic.com/about-us

PlanetJanette · 23/06/2025 16:02

SionnachRuadh · 23/06/2025 15:46

How do you know who's got a male gender identity? Assuming someone's identity is transphobic, so we're told.

On the other hand, exclusion by sex is simple, practical and doesn't rely on any assumptions about the service user's philosophical beliefs.

That's not true though.

Both routes rely on people behaving honestly unless you plan on DNA testing everyone who goes for a wee.

PlanetJanette · 23/06/2025 16:05

sanluca · 23/06/2025 15:41

You can find it nonsense but this is the law. If services do not invoke the single sex excemptions then they are mixed sex. Services that are mixed sex are open to those of both sexes. If services are mixed sex then there apparantely is no proportionate means of achieving a legitimate aim to make them single sex. So any man can join.

Thereby, any man can say they are a transwoman and who are you to say no.

I see.

So to come back to my earlier example. If I want to set up a club for Labour Party members to discuss politics, I have no intention that it should be single sex.

Are you under the impression that if it is mixed sex, it must therefore be open to all men and all women, with no limitation whatsoever?

WithSilverBells · 23/06/2025 16:07

...DNA test not necessary for simple sex case. Going to Specsavers will do

EuclidianGeometryFan · 23/06/2025 16:09

FlirtsWithRhinos · 23/06/2025 15:48

"services or facilities open to cisgender and transgender women" - sure. Assuming that you mean "cisgender women" in good faith ie women who actively identify as having the same mental gender as men who believe they are women do, and not just a bad faith shorthand for women in general, or make the bad faith aummption that any woman who has not explicitly defined herself to you as trans must be "cisgender", you can have that. It's the Gender-club, no different to a Goth club or a model train club.

What you can't do is use your Gender-club to directly or indirectly discriminate by sex.

So you can't let any female person but only trans identifying men in.

And you can't ask men on the door if they meet the rules but not ask women.

You are probably on risky ground if you let women with short hair wearing jeans and a T shirt in without question but stop men in the same outfit to check if they identify as women.

And if you are a venue or service that is open to everyone but then applies Gender-club rules to some element of your service, like toilets or life drawing classes or writing cricles, you need to make sure that this doesn't cause more problems for one biological sex than the other.

And all that said, I strongly suspect that if you use the word "Woman" in your marketing, T&Cs etc you will be on very shaky ground, so assuming your aim is genuinely to serve your Gender-club market and not to continue the discredited appropriation of female-specific language and history for men who claim to be women, you would do well, and also claim more hearts and minds, by finding a new, uncontaminated name for your mixed sex social identity group. "Femme Night" or "Pink Club" or something.

Edited

This gets to the heart of the matter.

@PlanetJanette is technically correct, in that you can set up e.g. a sewing club or disco night for 'only people who don't have a male gender identity', or 'only people who do have a female gender identity'.
But you would have to be very careful as to how you a) advertised it and b) policed entry.

But it is theoretical, without many real-world applications, given that things like toilet provision is covered by other legislation and regulation which means that for single-sex provision transwomen are excluded.

In the real world, it boils down to whether things like board places, prizes, rape crisis centres, hospital wards, prisons, changing rooms, etc. are:

a) covered by other legislation or regulation
b) described as for 'women'
c) claiming to operate the single-sex exemption

If any of the above apply, I would interpret this as meaning the transwomen are excluded.

PlanetJanette · 23/06/2025 16:10

FlirtsWithRhinos · 23/06/2025 15:48

"services or facilities open to cisgender and transgender women" - sure. Assuming that you mean "cisgender women" in good faith ie women who actively identify as having the same mental gender as men who believe they are women do, and not just a bad faith shorthand for women in general, or make the bad faith aummption that any woman who has not explicitly defined herself to you as trans must be "cisgender", you can have that. It's the Gender-club, no different to a Goth club or a model train club.

What you can't do is use your Gender-club to directly or indirectly discriminate by sex.

So you can't let any female person but only trans identifying men in.

And you can't ask men on the door if they meet the rules but not ask women.

You are probably on risky ground if you let women with short hair wearing jeans and a T shirt in without question but stop men in the same outfit to check if they identify as women.

And if you are a venue or service that is open to everyone but then applies Gender-club rules to some element of your service, like toilets or life drawing classes or writing cricles, you need to make sure that this doesn't cause more problems for one biological sex than the other.

And all that said, I strongly suspect that if you use the word "Woman" in your marketing, T&Cs etc you will be on very shaky ground, so assuming your aim is genuinely to serve your Gender-club market and not to continue the discredited appropriation of female-specific language and history for men who claim to be women, you would do well, and also claim more hearts and minds, by finding a new, uncontaminated name for your mixed sex social identity group. "Femme Night" or "Pink Club" or something.

Edited

The usage of the term woman or man in general parlance is not regulated by the Equality Act.

And secondly, venues are free to adopt policies based on the view that if a biological woman is not transgender, then she has a female gender identity. It doesn't really matter if she agrees or not for the purposes of discrimination. It matters whether she is allowed into the facilities.

If she is, there is no discrimination against her on the basis of her 'protected beliefs' If she's not, there could be an argument there. She doesn't have to agree with the venue's policy to be able to access services based on it.

PlanetJanette · 23/06/2025 16:14

EuclidianGeometryFan · 23/06/2025 16:09

This gets to the heart of the matter.

@PlanetJanette is technically correct, in that you can set up e.g. a sewing club or disco night for 'only people who don't have a male gender identity', or 'only people who do have a female gender identity'.
But you would have to be very careful as to how you a) advertised it and b) policed entry.

But it is theoretical, without many real-world applications, given that things like toilet provision is covered by other legislation and regulation which means that for single-sex provision transwomen are excluded.

In the real world, it boils down to whether things like board places, prizes, rape crisis centres, hospital wards, prisons, changing rooms, etc. are:

a) covered by other legislation or regulation
b) described as for 'women'
c) claiming to operate the single-sex exemption

If any of the above apply, I would interpret this as meaning the transwomen are excluded.

It's really only (a) and (c) that are relevant.

If a service is described as for women, but they use that term to include trans women and cis women, then the equality act doesn't regulate that.

I agree, if (a) other legislation mandates single sex provision based on biological sex, this approach is not an option. And I agree, (c) any venue using this option cannot then rely on the single sex exemption if challenged.

But I think (b) is a red herring. I was in a pub last week where the bathrooms were labelled 'Does' and 'Stags'. Aside from making me vomit a little, I don't think the Equality Act means that those facilities can only be used by deer.

EuclidianGeometryFan · 23/06/2025 16:16

PlanetJanette · 23/06/2025 16:10

The usage of the term woman or man in general parlance is not regulated by the Equality Act.

And secondly, venues are free to adopt policies based on the view that if a biological woman is not transgender, then she has a female gender identity. It doesn't really matter if she agrees or not for the purposes of discrimination. It matters whether she is allowed into the facilities.

If she is, there is no discrimination against her on the basis of her 'protected beliefs' If she's not, there could be an argument there. She doesn't have to agree with the venue's policy to be able to access services based on it.

But if you are allowing in all the women with short hair and jeans, but stopping and questioning the men dressed the same way, surely that is sex discrimination against the men?

PlanetJanette · 23/06/2025 16:16

WithSilverBells · 23/06/2025 16:07

...DNA test not necessary for simple sex case. Going to Specsavers will do

This just isn't true though.

I know you folk are really attached to the 'you can always tell' nonsense, but you really can't.

So unless you can explain what happens when some hapless manager mistakenly thinks a cisgender woman is actually transgender, and doesn't believe her when she says she is not transgender, excluding by biological sex raises just as many or more practical problems as excluding by gender identity.

WithSilverBells · 23/06/2025 16:18

The usage of the term woman or man in general parlance is not regulated by the Equality Act.
But service providers and associations are and if they label facilities in such a way that a woman would have a reasonable expectation that she would not find a male in there, then the presence of a male causes a problem for the service provider

SionnachRuadh · 23/06/2025 16:18

If a service is described as for women, but they use that term to include trans women and cis women, then the equality act doesn't regulate that.

I'm sorry, but this is bollocks, and the Supreme Court has explained why it's bollocks.

WithSilverBells · 23/06/2025 16:20

PlanetJanette · 23/06/2025 16:16

This just isn't true though.

I know you folk are really attached to the 'you can always tell' nonsense, but you really can't.

So unless you can explain what happens when some hapless manager mistakenly thinks a cisgender woman is actually transgender, and doesn't believe her when she says she is not transgender, excluding by biological sex raises just as many or more practical problems as excluding by gender identity.

Well it is a damn sight easier to see someone's sex than their gender identity!

PlanetJanette · 23/06/2025 16:20

EuclidianGeometryFan · 23/06/2025 16:16

But if you are allowing in all the women with short hair and jeans, but stopping and questioning the men dressed the same way, surely that is sex discrimination against the men?

The same applies to exclusion by sex, though.

E.g. if you are only (or disproportionately) stopping trans men as they enter the women's bathrooms then that would amount to discrimination based on gender reassignment.

So yes, both means of separating services and facilities could give rise to theoretical forms of implementation that could be discriminatory. That doesn't mean the actual approach itself would not be lawful.

EuclidianGeometryFan · 23/06/2025 16:24

PlanetJanette · 23/06/2025 16:14

It's really only (a) and (c) that are relevant.

If a service is described as for women, but they use that term to include trans women and cis women, then the equality act doesn't regulate that.

I agree, if (a) other legislation mandates single sex provision based on biological sex, this approach is not an option. And I agree, (c) any venue using this option cannot then rely on the single sex exemption if challenged.

But I think (b) is a red herring. I was in a pub last week where the bathrooms were labelled 'Does' and 'Stags'. Aside from making me vomit a little, I don't think the Equality Act means that those facilities can only be used by deer.

I guess this will have to be tested in court.

If a pub, which is not obliged by law to provide single-sex toilets for customers, nevertheless provides toilets (without floor-to-ceiling cubicles) which are apparently segregated by 'gender', could a woman bring a claim against the pub for sex discrimination?

If the toilets had on the door the words 'female' or 'women' or 'ladies' or a 'W' or the universal symbol for women's toilets, but transwomen were allowed in, would a woman have a claim then?

spannasaurus · 23/06/2025 16:24

PlanetJanette · 23/06/2025 16:20

The same applies to exclusion by sex, though.

E.g. if you are only (or disproportionately) stopping trans men as they enter the women's bathrooms then that would amount to discrimination based on gender reassignment.

So yes, both means of separating services and facilities could give rise to theoretical forms of implementation that could be discriminatory. That doesn't mean the actual approach itself would not be lawful.

Transmen can be excluded from female single sex spaces without it being discrimination based on GR. This was explicitly covered by the SC ruling

WithSilverBells · 23/06/2025 16:29

Anyway. I would have some sympathy with you @PlanetJanette , if you just wanted to have an association for women and trans-identified males to hang out (though men and trans-identified females doesn't seem to be so much of a thing🤔). In reality, though, we all know that it would result in any association that didn't take your option being relentlessly hounded underground, as has happened to our lesbian sisters.
However, your attempts to get males into women's facilities is just plain red flag territory for me, I'm afraid.

Bannedontherun · 23/06/2025 16:29

I think i would sooner take the legal opinions of the likes of Reindorf, Foran, Cunningham, et al than somebody from a different planet.

SionnachRuadh · 23/06/2025 16:29

EuclidianGeometryFan · 23/06/2025 16:24

I guess this will have to be tested in court.

If a pub, which is not obliged by law to provide single-sex toilets for customers, nevertheless provides toilets (without floor-to-ceiling cubicles) which are apparently segregated by 'gender', could a woman bring a claim against the pub for sex discrimination?

If the toilets had on the door the words 'female' or 'women' or 'ladies' or a 'W' or the universal symbol for women's toilets, but transwomen were allowed in, would a woman have a claim then?

If it reduces the likelihood of me encountering a bearded bloke in the ladies who smirks and says "I'm gender fluid", then let's take this to court.

And if the trans community find the signs confusing, we can always recruit some teenage boys to draw boobs and willies on them.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 23/06/2025 16:30

PlanetJanette · 23/06/2025 16:16

This just isn't true though.

I know you folk are really attached to the 'you can always tell' nonsense, but you really can't.

So unless you can explain what happens when some hapless manager mistakenly thinks a cisgender woman is actually transgender, and doesn't believe her when she says she is not transgender, excluding by biological sex raises just as many or more practical problems as excluding by gender identity.

As long as people follow the laws and social contract - ie respect the rights of others and comply with society's rules for sex / age related spaces - ie middle aged men not insisting they're toddlers and demanding to be accommodated on hospital wards for children - all will be well.

Now if there's a group of disordered adults, incapable of respecting the rights of others and deliberately invading spaces where they're legally not allowed, for example hospital wards for women, women's changing rooms in swimming pools etc, then they become a problem. There's always been sex offending men who breach those rules - it used to be straightforward for them to be removed and their crimes investigated. I'm a bit surprised to see so many men insisting on their right to have access to undressed women and girls and even going into print about it. But as much data suggests there's an increase in sex offending maybe women shouldn't be surprised at their insistence.

EuclidianGeometryFan · 23/06/2025 16:30

PlanetJanette · 23/06/2025 16:20

The same applies to exclusion by sex, though.

E.g. if you are only (or disproportionately) stopping trans men as they enter the women's bathrooms then that would amount to discrimination based on gender reassignment.

So yes, both means of separating services and facilities could give rise to theoretical forms of implementation that could be discriminatory. That doesn't mean the actual approach itself would not be lawful.

You are assuming that transmen could be disproportionally stopped because they 'pass' as men.
In reality, they don't pass and are not likely to be stopped.

In the theoretical 'Femme pink disco night', transmen are no more likely to be stopped from entering than any other woman. Whereas men are likely to be stopped if they are not dressed up in stereotypical women's clothes.

Shortshriftandlethal · 23/06/2025 16:32

PlanetJanette · 23/06/2025 15:41

Yep.

What's that got to do with my 'chosen identity', which you seemed to know with sufficient certainty to tell me how I'd view it in a year's time?

The point is that your 'gender identity' does not matter when it comes to facilities which are designated by sex - which is basically all facilities ( Unisex included). It does not matter now, and it will not matter then. It may well be meaningful for you personally......but when it comes to public facilities it is irrelevant how you feel.

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 23/06/2025 16:47

PlanetJanette · 23/06/2025 16:05

I see.

So to come back to my earlier example. If I want to set up a club for Labour Party members to discuss politics, I have no intention that it should be single sex.

Are you under the impression that if it is mixed sex, it must therefore be open to all men and all women, with no limitation whatsoever?

Are you under the impression that if it is mixed sex, it must therefore be open to all men and all women, with no limitation whatsoever?

You posted that in reply an earlier post of mine. I agree with you but would clarify that the context of my post was discussion of women's single-sex services rendered mixed-sex by inclusion of men.

So, in your example, a club for women who are Labour Party members has two criteria for inclusion, both of which must be satisfied:

  • sex: women only
  • Labour Party membership

If male Labour Party members are included then it is no longer a club for women Labour Party members: it is a mixed-sex club for Labour Party members.

Alternatively, if female Conservative Party members are included then it is no longer a club for women Labour Party members: it is a single-sex club for members of both the Labour Party and the Conservative Party.

My apologies if that was not clear.

lcakethereforeIam · 23/06/2025 16:49

Do many pubs, restaurants and the like have separate toilets for their staff? If the toilets used by the customers are also used by staff won't they have to be separated by sex to conform to the workplace regulations? Or be of the unisex, fully enclosed, design.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 23/06/2025 16:50

PlanetJanette · 23/06/2025 15:38

"not having a protected characteristic" is not a protected characteristic.

So if men are not being discriminated on grounds of sex by the policy you describe (and I agree, they are not) then they cannot rely on discrimination by dint of not having another protected characteristic.

To put it another way, some protected characteristics are universal, in that it is possible for everyone to benefit from them. Age, for example. It's not only about protecting old people, or young people. Everyone has an age, and in theory everyone can benefit from that protection. Likewise sex and sexual orientation.

Other protected characteristics are limited to only some people, however. Disability is an example here. You can't claim discrimination on the basis of being able bodied. Only on the basis of being disabled. Similarly, you can't be discriminated against for not undergoing gender reassignment.

It would be discrimination against women to provide a single sex service for women that includes some men.

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