Stephen Fry - What a repulsive, condescending misogynistic turd

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14820209/Harry-Potter-narrator-Stephen-Fry-turns-JK-Rowling-TERFs.html

Yuk.

I know many black women, including family who look like her. But go on and tell me what I as a black women think black women should look like...

He’s a man. It’s been proven in court.

I thought this was what I remembered too. I think he plays to whatever audience he wishes to appease.

Why are you being racist?

Trans people have not been oppressed in the way that Black Americans were. They are not linked. Stop trying to link them as a way of not answering a simple question .

Exactly, as I said, just attention seeking. On JKR’s coattails.

It's not her. He is a he. Who admitted he is male with 5-ARD, and who fathered children with his own sperm from his testicles.

And suddenly saying I am a black woman when your racism is called out isn't convincing.

Caster Semenya is a male person with the DSD 5ARD. This has been proven in court.

I note he does not give one example of what she has said to state why he disagrees with her.

It is just moralizing about what a bad person she is

Oh but if you don't hurl dead cats, straw men and red herrings in all directions, there's no way to maintain the nonsense and try and shame everyone into submission, be fair.

I don’t k who any black women that look like her.

I know a few black men that do though.

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When these people speak out like this it's just more to add to the file The Trans Rights Movement is a men's rights movement. There's no difference. Just using another line in PR

WTF are you saying?

Name me one white athlete who competed in the women’s world championships that was male?

No one is talking about what black women should look like. CS is a man!

We know this now. After humiliating her publicly. She ws determined a girl at birth with the medical knowledge available to her community at the time because her testes were internal.

We don't know the same of white female athletes who are also DSD, because the tests are only done after the female athletes are accused. And the athletes are accused in a structure that sees white ideals of beauty as female beauty - so other races will more likely be deemed as not meeting those standards and then subjected to the testing.

I'm not sure if you're purposely missing the point. The hysteria on this topic exists within racist structures and then affects other races in a way it does not affect white people. The hysteria vilifies and affects individuals, some of whom find out they are not biologically women at the same time as the world. How is this right or humane?

I'd like Stephen to explain to me what the comedy is in the episodes of Blackadder that feature Gabrielle Glaister as Bob.

Because in Stephen's current world the episodes make no comedic sense at all. This obvious woman is saying she's a man, the rest of the characters are taking her at face value and the audience is laughing. Why are they laughing? Please explain it to me Stephen. Deradicalise me.

Khelif has also been tested and has been found to be a male person.

Indeed, this below is one of the very arguments used to convince the IOC to stop sex testing in the late 1990s.

“These ethnic minorities are then at the receiving end of a very public backlash for matters they often will have had little control over (i.e. Dutee Chand, Khelif) since they will have been raised as a girl since birth.”

This very argument led to two male boxers punching female boxers in the face in the 2024 Paris Olympics.

I’m not missing the point at all. Caster Semenya isn’t female. That’s the point.

It doesn't matter what you look like, it doesn't matter what your friends and family look like. Caster is a man and that is fact. You are ten years behind the times on this one, even the TRAs mostly accept the fact on this and instead try to argue that there's no male athletic advantage but we should still keep female sports so men can be affirmed as women by competing in them. Keep up.

I was agreeing with you!

I'll be honest: I used to absolutely love Stephen Fry. Really admire him.

But he seems to have changed.

What I admired was the fact he was gay was the least identifiable thing about him. He didn't ever really bring his sexuality into things.

Now, he seems to have jumped on the modern bandwagon and I think it's to his detriment.

I've read all of Stephen Fry's autobiographies and the 'smarmy' and 'obnoxious ' way he comes across is hides very deep rooted insecurity and self hatred - and I do believe him there.

But I don't like what I see as a hostile and patronising attitude towards women. He made a comment once upon a time (it was on the lines of finding vaginas pointless and disgusting in a sexual capacity)

Gay men don't fancy women or female bodies - I get that. But there's no need to mock or belittle or air repulsion at the female form. He may as well have said "women are pointless and silly"

He's not the only gay man that gives of those vibes : Elton John gives me those vibes too. I think some gay men really sneer at female sexuality.

Well there was that partially sighted bloke who ran in the women's Paras....

It would have been perfectly clear if you had just said "women".

Caster is a man.

Which could be avoided by genetically testing sports people at the start
of their careers before or when they start to compete internationally. And we absolutely have the ability and sequencing capacity to do that.