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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

My DD hates that I’m a TERF!

190 replies

TheLizardQueen · 18/06/2025 20:59

My teenage DD says she is embarrassed of my GC views. I’ve tried to educate her on women’s spaces, women’s sports etc but she doesn’t agree with me and says I embarrass her with my views and not to expect her to want to spend time with me when she leaves home. I’m gutted but she will not change my mind. I’ve told her that my views are that a person cannot change sex but she has some trans friends and thinks that I hate trans people. I absolutely do not hate trans people but I do not think that TWAW and as such shouldn’t be welcome in women’s only spaces. Please help me navigate this. I fear that she will hate me because of my views but I cannot accept her views but I don’t want her to be embarrassed of me either 😕

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GCAcademic · 18/06/2025 23:09

Mumtobabyhavoc · 18/06/2025 23:03

@AccidentallyWesAnderson
@IllustratedDictionaryOfTheDoldrums
@WithSilverBells

Mocking is bullying. Doesn't help your cause and just shows you as intolerant. It's common behaviour, though.

Mocking is an appropriate response to childish insults that attempt to shame women for wanting to uphold their legal rights.

Waitwhat23 · 18/06/2025 23:10

Mumtobabyhavoc · 18/06/2025 23:03

@AccidentallyWesAnderson
@IllustratedDictionaryOfTheDoldrums
@WithSilverBells

Mocking is bullying. Doesn't help your cause and just shows you as intolerant. It's common behaviour, though.

Hang on, their replies were in response to your comment -

It sounds like you are a bigot and she isn't. 🤷‍♀️

And you're calling them bullies?

Their replies were pretty mild, considering. A DFOD would have been far more direct.

And you're not exactly a shining example for your cause either. Demanding everyone follows your fact free, reality free ideology lest they are branded a bigot makes you look deranged, tbh.

Illegally18 · 18/06/2025 23:11

'When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.'

Haven't read that in years!😂😂

SternJoyousBee · 18/06/2025 23:12

Pifflepafflewifflewaffle · 18/06/2025 21:17

‘Seek medical advice’ 😂😂😂

maybe open your mind to her perspective, given that you’re her parent and could set a great example of open mindedness- the Trans Issue is a good place to start.

Very apt user name

Yes OP, open your mind and pretend humans can change sex and encourage your daughter to prioritise bullshit stereotypes

Tiredofwhataboutery · 18/06/2025 23:14

My teenager is exactly the same I am a transphobic, terfy, bigot. Hey ho. I’ve tried to use it as an opportunity to explain why it’s really important thst you know the facts of an arguement, rather than just repeating sound bytes you’ve picked up on Reddit.

It has been relatively interesting. He’s now of the opinion that one cannot change sex but it’s really important to respect a trans persons belief and the rest of us should wheest.

I think being able to have a respectful, reasoned conversation with someone of a different viewpoint is a really important life skill.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 18/06/2025 23:15

GCAcademic · 18/06/2025 23:09

Mocking is an appropriate response to childish insults that attempt to shame women for wanting to uphold their legal rights.

Keep telling yourself that...🙄 But, it's not what you're doing at all.

WithSilverBells · 18/06/2025 23:16

Mumtobabyhavoc · 18/06/2025 23:15

Keep telling yourself that...🙄 But, it's not what you're doing at all.

DFOD

Mumtobabyhavoc · 18/06/2025 23:16

Waitwhat23 · 18/06/2025 23:10

Hang on, their replies were in response to your comment -

It sounds like you are a bigot and she isn't. 🤷‍♀️

And you're calling them bullies?

Their replies were pretty mild, considering. A DFOD would have been far more direct.

And you're not exactly a shining example for your cause either. Demanding everyone follows your fact free, reality free ideology lest they are branded a bigot makes you look deranged, tbh.

Really? Demanded, you say? Good God, get a grip.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 18/06/2025 23:18

Mumtobabyhavoc · 18/06/2025 23:16

Really? Demanded, you say? Good God, get a grip.

No, you get a grip.

Facts and reality are not bigoted.

Waitwhat23 · 18/06/2025 23:18

Mumtobabyhavoc · 18/06/2025 23:16

Really? Demanded, you say? Good God, get a grip.

Yes. Demanded.

Tap, tap. Is this mic on?

Mumtobabyhavoc · 18/06/2025 23:18

GCAcademic · 18/06/2025 21:31

It’s good to open your mind, but not so much that your brain falls out.

Another reaponse showing an inability and unwillingness to let others have different opinions. And they're different so you mock them. 🤦‍♀️

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/06/2025 23:18

Mumtobabyhavoc · 18/06/2025 22:15

It sounds like you are a bigot and she isn't. 🤷‍♀️

What’s a “mum”? How do you tell which you are? Are you sure you’re not actually a dad?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 18/06/2025 23:20

Mumtobabyhavoc · 18/06/2025 23:18

Another reaponse showing an inability and unwillingness to let others have different opinions. And they're different so you mock them. 🤦‍♀️

We aren't the ones ending friendships and going no contact with family members for having a different opinion. That would be the "be kind" lot.

Chariots77 · 18/06/2025 23:20

Mine was too, when she was 13. I told her it's fine to disagree, as long as there was sensible debate. I encouraged her to think about it, and that I would think about her side too. She's 15 now and agrees with me

Mumtobabyhavoc · 18/06/2025 23:20

Waitwhat23 · 18/06/2025 23:18

Yes. Demanded.

Tap, tap. Is this mic on?

I won't argue. You seem to be employing DARVO tactics so grey rock it is. 🥱

AuntMarch · 18/06/2025 23:21

Screamingabdabz · 18/06/2025 21:48

I would absolutely rip the piss out of them. Then watch them try to pay for their own uni education without my support. Not happening. Suck it up buttercup. People can’t change sex.

That'll save the relationship 🙄

yoursweetpotatoesarebland · 18/06/2025 23:23

parietal · 18/06/2025 21:33

I’d start with the religion analogy. Some people believe TWAW. some people are gender critical. Some people believe Jesus is the son of god. Others don’t. We live in a pluralistic and tolerant society where different people with different beliefs can still be friends. So ask if she can be friends with someone with different beliefs. And if not, why not?

give her time and space to think, don’t expect to change her mind. Just listen and work towards a state where you agree to disagree.

later as she gets older, she may move closer to your point of view.

I think this is a great approach and I use it with my kids and other adults who are full on genderists.
You choose to believe in a particular religion/ god / gender / whatever and I don’t share that view but that’s fine - we can respect each others right to hold different opinions and diversity of thought is a valuable thing. I don’t compromise on facts tho - tell me sex is a spectrum and I will tell you it’s bollocks!

SternJoyousBee · 18/06/2025 23:23

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Waitwhat23 · 18/06/2025 23:24

Mumtobabyhavoc · 18/06/2025 23:20

I won't argue. You seem to be employing DARVO tactics so grey rock it is. 🥱

Oh my God, you're ridiculous 😆

You keep on, keeping on. It's all very helpful.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 18/06/2025 23:24

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 18/06/2025 23:20

We aren't the ones ending friendships and going no contact with family members for having a different opinion. That would be the "be kind" lot.

Really? Did you read Screamingabdabz's post at 21:48? And you wonder why transkids cut off their families?

justasking111 · 18/06/2025 23:25

OH I wouldn't discuss it. Teenagers are such drama llamas. She's entitled to her opinion. Keep yours on the down low.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 18/06/2025 23:25

Waitwhat23 · 18/06/2025 23:24

Oh my God, you're ridiculous 😆

You keep on, keeping on. It's all very helpful.

Will do. Good night to you.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 18/06/2025 23:26

Mumtobabyhavoc · 18/06/2025 23:24

Really? Did you read Screamingabdabz's post at 21:48? And you wonder why transkids cut off their families?

They cut off their real families because they've been manipulated by their new and not at all dodgy rainbow families on the internet.

Waitwhat23 · 18/06/2025 23:26
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Good night, grey rock!

Mumtobabyhavoc · 18/06/2025 23:30

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 18/06/2025 23:26

They cut off their real families because they've been manipulated by their new and not at all dodgy rainbow families on the internet.

That's the issue right there. People are born different. Science proves this. If a person's loved ones can't accept and support them and their bodily autonomy, then why wouldn't they seek support elsewhere?
Your language, "dodgy rainbow families" is just hateful.