Do you support transitioning at all?

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I somewhat do, I will admit. I think it's okay if an adult wants to take hormones, dress as they'd like to, be treated as M or F, or even change their name. I'll respect it all. However I don't agree with them being allowed into single sex spaces or conversations (a gay trans person is functionally a straight person, despite what they say, and a gay FtM shouldn't try to date gay guys for example).

I question if this is a common view or is it niche in these more gender critical spaces.

No-one gets to define anyone's sexuality including their own.

A sexuality is a sexual orientation, and is the cold hard reality of your unchanging sex and the sex of the people you date. Every single person is straight, gay or bi, and that does not change if they transition, because sex never changes and never will.

No-one is trying to control you, they are trying to get you to accept reality. In contrast a man in a straight relationship is trying to control his partner if he makes the meaningless claim that he is now a woman and seeks to claim his partner is a lesbian now.

According to the laws of this country, they are.

How many people in your cohort went through psychotherapy, grew up a bit, and in the end decided not to transition?

You seem quite happy for them to be thrown to the wolves; without therapy, and time to mature naturally, they might have ruined their lives.

I sincerely hope you're not advocating medical treatment before the early twenties, at least.

I don't normally use the 'c' word, but, preventing young and vulnerable cis-but-confused people from harming themselves irrevocably should be the top priority.

I don’t think you can change sex. I don’t think gender really exists except as a stereotype society uses to hook up and categorise people into easy mental boxes.

I don’t think the NHS should cover surgeries on functioning body parts, but I do think anyone over the age of 18 can pay as plastic surgeon for whatever they like.

I like variety in life and people who are individuals. I don’t like men controlling what women say and do.

I support all sorts of transitions, life is full of transitions, but nobody cares about anybody else’s, and why should they? Live your life and stop telling people what to think and do and say.

Biologically they are though . I would love to identify as an able bodied slim person who looks like a supermodel. But I am not. Reality sucks. It's a shame but it is what it is. I think we all feel a bit like this . I don't think you're any different than the rest of us tbh, we all wish we were a different version of ourselves than we are. I

I take some supplements, but that's due to me being vegan not being trans. Generally speaking I'm in really good health.

We all know they are, including you.

Why are you lying about this?

You're a successful man with a partner . That's great. I'm glad you're ok but what about those vulnerable suicidal people who are having surgery and regretting it ? You were an adult with capacity to make the decision but some of these younger people are ND, or have mental health issues. Imagine if that had been you ?

People with anorexia believe that they are fat, we do not send them to weight watchers, or to have gastric banding, instead we work with them to recognise their own body and to take care of it. This is the correct therapeutic intervention for them.
Why we would affirm any delusion is beyond me, especially if it causes the delusion holder to harm their health body.
To trans a homosexuality person, is the ultimate in conversion therapy

if he’s with you, a biologically male
human being, he’s a gay or bisexual man attracted to men.

Well that's good. I'm glad you're ok and that it hasn't affected your health.

Perhaps your being a wreck was lack of iron and b12 from your diet though ? Maybe you needed a T bone! 😁

So-called ‘transition care’ is brutal conversion therapy for gay men or lesbian women.

They have developed drugs for it.

For trans women that is oestrogen, for trans men it is testosterone.

I said drugs to alleviate the dysphoria, not drugs to affirm the pretence.

But all that does is screw up their mental health . Excess testosterone in a woman is linked to them developing mood disorders and eating disorders. Which is why the co morbidity of illnesses like bipolar and bulimia are so high in women with PCOS. I have lived experience of this . It's not natural .

Why not choose natural supplements or homeopathy instead to cure your dysphoria ? There are supplements for anxiety and mood swings?

Feeling down is quite a normal but unpleasant thing, at johns wort is very good and milk thistle. I know someone who cured their OCD with milk thistle

Oh look a man has arrived yo impose his manly beliefs on women and tell them they don’t get to say ‘no’ to men like him. How very masculine and misogynistic.

@AYoungTransWoman I just don't think it should be at the taxpayers expense ? I mean couldn't you have remortgaged your house or for got a better paid job or something ?

I wouldn't have minded if NHS help covered the most severe cases of dysphoria but that is like %1 of the population. As a tax payer it does affect us. Now the floodgates have opened and the world and his wife are claiming to have dysphoria. Many of them neurospicy youngsters who need help for their ND. i would support the NH S treating those with ND conditions, definitely .

How misogynistic of you to say any woman who stands up for herself is somehow less of a woman because of it and it just acting masculine.

The NHS covers ALL of us. I pay my national insurance too, if it doesn't cover my healthcare why should I be forced to pay for someone else's?

You are a man. It is always clear when men are posting, you can’t avoid displaying your male privilege.

Sorry you can now always tell over text? There isn't a certain way women type, how misogynistic to assume there is.

Which woman on here are we referring to ? I'm a bit confused ? Which woman on this thread do you mean? I haven't been misogynistic towards anyone ?

You are demonstrating classic male entitlement.

What you are describing isn't healthcare.